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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: fascinus on September 01, 2011, 07:18:28 am
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Hi!!!
I'm absolutely new here so please grant me this opportunity to thank you all here for making things lil simpler for new members like me.
I have purchased the Gigabyte GA-EX58-EXTREME Mother Board almost 2 years ago.
Was thinking of changing the RAM modules. I have Corsair XMS3 Platinum Series 1333Mhz. 3 * 2 Gig.
The New Corsair Vengeance is available at cheaper rates and so was planning to buy them.
Model No: Vengeance™ — 12GB Triple Channel DDR3 Memory Kit (CMZ12GX3M3A1600C9)
So I need your help and advice about these primarily being compatible with GA-EX58-EXTREME?
I will give the current config that I have.
CM Stacker 832
CM V8
Corsair HX1000
GA EX58 Extreme
Intel Core i7-920
nVidia GTX 295 + nVidia GTX 260
Corsair XMS3 Platinum Series 3 * 2 Gig.
5 * 2 TB (Seagate)
3 * 1 TB (Seagate)
1 * 60 (OCZ)
Logitech Z 5500
LG 47".
Can you please let me know if Corsair Vengeance RAM is compatible and I can simply swap the modules?
Awaiting your reply...
Thanks.
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
There is no reason why the Corsair Vengeance memory shouldn't work fine with your motherboard. I have the GA-X58A-UD7 and I have tried them with mine and it works fine. I must say I doin't normally use them in it though as I have Corsair Dominators but the Vengeance is good memory at a good price so I can't blame you. I just bought another 16GB for my machine I use for reviews and it cost me well under a hundred pounds.
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But then... The native speed supported by the board is 1333Mhz...
Whereas the Vengeance have a native speed of 1600Mhz...
I'm sure when I plug them in, they'll automatically clock to 1333Mhz...
Am I right?
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More than likely you are right because there is no official 1600 Mhz speed as ratified by JEDEC the governing body. 1333 is the highest official speed so anything over that is an overclock. The Vengeance comes with a XMP attached so you can just enable that in the BIOS or manually set the timings and voltage.
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So do you opine that I go for a 12 Gig Kit?
3 * 4 Gig kit?
You are sure that the RAM Module which I have shared with you is compatible...
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It is your decision but the same modules used in your kit work fine in my motherboard whcih is very similar to yours. I can say no more. Have you checked on Corsairs website for their QVL for the memory and seen if it says it is compatible ?
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http://www.corsair.com/learn_n_explore
Checked the same and it says its compatible...
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Always the best idea as a first step and if they say it has been tested and compatible you should be safe. You would be surprised how many people skip this step and use a "lottery" approach!
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Thanks...
I'm glad that I checked up with you before taking the plunge...
Wanted to let u know a few more things..
I'm planning another RIG...
CM HAF X
CM Silent Pro 1200 (Gold)
Corsair H100
G1 Assassin
Intel Core i7 990x
nVidia GTX 295 * 2.
Asus Xonar DX2
Corsair Vengeance 6 * 4 Gig
OCZ Vertex 3 (120 G * 2) SSD
Seagate 1 * 2 TB.
Application - Only Gaming
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Well it sounds like it will be a very nice system when built. I would suggest putting some clamps on the hoses of the Corsair H100 as sometimes these can leak if pulled on or something like that.
If you want to save a bit of money too you could really do without the sound card as the built in sound on the Assassin is very good anyway.
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I was thinking of the same. As of right now the Z 5500 is simply oustanding on the Extreme. The Assassin has even better as its got onboard support for Dolby Live. EAX 5.0 and comes Creative X-Fi. Amazing... However the Asus Xonar DX2 is supporting over 5 Dolby variations & 3 in DTS. Downside is its only EAX 2.0 capable... Somehow I do enjoy a lot of Music... Trance mostly...
Still gathering the cash mate... So it might take a while though...
Sir, had one a question. Asus has come up with Asus Rampage III Exreme Edition (R.O.G) - supports 48Gig in 6 DIMM's...
Is Assassin planning a Rev 2.0 to catch up to them or something...
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Personally I think that it is highly likely that the second coming of the Assassin will be arriving shortly. Don't get drawn into the "how much memory can I stuff into the board" though as there is nothing to gain from a gaming point of view and if anything it might even slow it down a touch. Unless you are using lots of multitasking or huge files being manipulated it is just a waste to have anything over about 12GB.
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True Sir...
I dont deny that at all...
I was told even the same before, however a friend of mine disagrees.
I told him the same why would I need so much of memory as I dont perform apart from gaming...
I have dedicated memory of 4 GB as Video (GTX 295 & GTX 260).. 1792 x 2.
You think I should wait for the Assassin 2...
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To be honest memory of 6GB would be plenty for just about all games that are avilable now. Even 12GB is overkill really but if you want to be able to brag then fair enough! ;)
Your friend doesn't know what he is talking about if he thinks you need massive amounts of RAM to play games. In fact as I mentioned before it can even slow the system down a bit.
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Finally...
I got my HAF X today...
To my utter disappointment the case is damaged...
Transport system... Man i'm so annoyed at the dealer.
I go the case delivered at my house and this is what has happened...
I called him and literally fired him.
He mentioned, get it at my shop and he'll change it right away.
He has one more, however I have a gut feling that it'll be damaged...
Really annoying...
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Yes something like that is realy annoying and even more so when you have been waiting on it to start a build. Hopefully the one in his store will be ok but just give it a good check over first. They are nice cases though, one of the best in my opinion. They have a great cable management system which helps a great deal to have a nice tidy build in the end. I have the HAF932 full tower and really like it although I have customised it from day 1.
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Sir,
I got the new HAF X yesterday.. (I mean the replacement).
She is not damaged and I throughly checked each and every component...
Didn't go through the box (Accessories) but the case sems to be intact without any damage to it.
Also got the RAM... I installed that on the current config...
Went thru with Windows Rating Index... It clocks at 7.4, 7.6, 7.7, 7.7 & 5.9...
The SSD is not installed as yet though I have bought it but haven't yet used it...
I guess the minute I use that the scores might go higher...
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Well your hard drive score will certainly go up a lot. 5.9 is the maximum you can possibly get when running with a spinning platter. It certainly should be up in the 7s.
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Anyway m not such a fan on the scoring thingy..
Its not at all important as to what the score is as i'm more concerned about what the machine perfoms like..
The other side of the coin, the better the score the better the machine would perform.
Dark Mantis, wanted to let you know, whether you follow the CM Forums?
I was checking out the Mod Build by Kieron the HAF X...
Also there is the Stacker SR2 & the Lap Desk...
We dont get these fancy pumps & water blocks and connectors and the rest of the modding stuff in India...
I was simply amazed at what all stuff guys can do...
Its so much more than a computer...
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That's it the joys of real customisation. A lot of the best builds and custom alterations etc are made by hand and often are not even available so in that respect you are no worse off there in India.
I must admit that I haven't been watching the CM forums but I will check it out a little later when I have time.
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Hey...
I agree... But it is a lot of investment to customise (Primarily a trial & error methodology).
In India we don't get the modding equipment as the U.S or Europe.
More importantly to get it in India its even more expensive...
Please make sure to check on the CM Forum - L3P, Kier, SR2 Stacker.
Kier is the HAF X mod - simply outstanding... so so brilliant (no words to express).
L3P is out of the world...
I had a question for you...
Can I go for water blacks for my GTX 295?
They will be near impossible to be procured in India but by chance if possible...
Please give me your opinions on it...
http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/blocks/vga-blocks/fc-geforce/geforce-2xx-gtx-series/295-gtx-single.html?limit=all
They have different products, available on the website.
I dont understand the difference in the 1st row and the 2nd row.
If you get a chance, will u explain me if possible...
Greatly appreciated.
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Hi
The main thing if considering watercooling your graphics card with a full cover block is to find out if the card that you have is a reference design or not. This is not always easy to determine. You will need to do much hunting around on the web most likely. As a general rule the reference cards are the ones early on in the production run before the manufacturers have started making their own customised design cards.
There is no difference between the two lines of components on the EK site in real terms just design and materials mainly.
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Right...
Well I dont know much about this.
I'll check whether its a reference design or not.
I dont know anything about water cooling what so ever and hence i'll have to hunt and read alot bout this.
I'll do it and get back.
Sorry if its been a trouble to you...
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Hey no trouble whatsoever. Any more help that you need just ask. ;)
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Hi...
DM Sir, I have found a solution for water cooling the 2 Graphics Cards.
Danger Den has its DD-295 units for sale.
I even tried the Koolance & EK Waterblocks but they turned out to be a Dead End.
Can you please let me know if they are alright?
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It is difficult to say for sure but it all depends on your specific graphics cards. Are they reference cards or are they cards that the manufacturer has designed ? Also Danger Den are normally far from cheap. If you post a link to the actual cards and coolers I will try and give you my opinion.
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DM Sir,I'll do that in the evening then...
The reference card design that you said...
There are 2 versions if i'm not mistaken. The Single PCB & The Dual PCB Design...
Both the cards of mine are Dual PCB that is what i've checked...
I do agree they are not cheap... Costing like $189.95 each.
I dont deny but I guess they'll be worth it...
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_240_577&products_id=25196
One card is an MSI & the other is EVGA.
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They seem to be very nice units but whether they will fit your cards is another matter. By the way I am not a sir! ;D
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Well, sorry about referring to you as Sir...
Shall not do that again...
Tell me what do you mean by will they fit your card?
I sure hope they do...
Is there anything that I can do to check if they can...
Please let me know how to go about this...
As I already told you, i'm absolutely new at this...
One more update, the Vengeance works just fine.
All I had to do was to go to the BIOS and change the option in to Auto...
The speed went to 1600...
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Glad to hear that the Vengeance memory is working fine for you. It is normally very good.
The reason I said that the blocks might not fit your cards is that unless they are of the "reference" design (in other words the way the card was originally designed and the original components installed) they will not fit. Manufacturers often change the design of the cards and change components as they go along to improve the performance. This is fine but it means you end up with many different cards on the market that all call themselves Nvidia **** or Radeon ****. Obviously the same block cannot fit all of these different cards some of which will even have different PCBs.
All you can do is investigate the card/s you have and try and find out if indeed they are still reference(original) design or not.
Sir Dark Mantis 8)
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Sir Dark Mantis 8)
Well... exactly how do I do that?
Should the Serial Number / part number help me out in any case?
As I mentioned, i'm new at water cooling...
Please give me any tips you know which can help me out here...
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It is a difficult issue often. Firstly I would suggest emailing the manufacturers with the model and serial number of the cards and just asking them.That will probably be the easiest way.
You can also check against any online configurators like EK's.
Try asking on the appropriate GPU forums for advice from other owners.
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Hi i will like to know if is possible put this memory for this motherboard Ty so much
G.Skill DIMM 16 GB DDR3-2133 Quad-Kit (F3-17000CL11Q-16GBXL, RipjawsX)
Denominación del modelo F3-17000CL11Q-16GBXL
Serie RipjawsX
Capacidad total 16384 MB
Número de módulos 4
Formato DIMM
Tipo SDRAM-DDR3
Estándar DDR3 - 2133 (PC3 - 17000)
Timings:
Latencia CAS (CL) 11
Retardo RAS - CAS (tRCD) 11
Tiempo de precarga de RAS (tRP) 11
Tiempo de precarga de RAS (tRAS) 30
Conexión 240 pines
Organización 256Mx8
Tensión 1,6 voltios
Margen de tensión desde 1,6 voltios hasta 1,6 voltios
Más información RoHS
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Hi Sharks and welcome.
I have just checked on both the Gigabyte and GSkill QVLs and neither lists those modules as compatible. It could very well be that they would work but maybe just not as specified. It is a chance you take if you purchase something that isn't on the list.
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Memory/motherboard_memory_ga-ex58-extreme.pdf Giga QVL
http://gskill.com/configurator2.php?pid=2&model=83
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Ty so much for answer to me Dark Mantis
I see the web that send me and see to buy a DDR3 2000
Corsair Vengeance PC3-16000 DDR3 2000 12GB 3X4GB (is more possible that buy this)
Warranty Lifetime
Size 12GB Kit (3 x 4GB)
Performance Profile XMP
Fan Included No
Heat Spreader Vengeance
Memory Configuration Triple Channel
Memory Type DDR3
Package - Memory Pin 240
Package - Memory Format DIMM Tested Voltage 1.5
SPD Voltage 1.5
Speed Rating PC3-16000 (2000MHz)
SPD Speed 1333Mhz
Tested Speed 2000Mhz
Tested Latency 10-10-10-27
SPD Latency 9-9-9-24
or
G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 2000 PC3-16000 8GB 2x4GB
System Type: DDR3
CAS_Latency: 9-10-9-28
Capacity: 8GB (4GB x 2)
Speed: DDR3-2000 (PC3 16000)
Test_Voltage: 1.55 Volts
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Error_Checking: Non-ECC
Type: 240-pin DIMM
The link that send of the G.Skill in spain only shell in DDR3 this model that show you.
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Definitely go for the Corsair or indeed any other triple channel kit as that will work better and with more performance on this motherboard as it is natively triple channel. A dual channel kit can be made to work but you are not getting the best out of your motherboard.
Here is the QVL link for Corsair in case you need it:
Corsair: http://www.corsair.com/learn_n_explore/
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I see this web this night ty so much. And go for the Corsair Vengance and when the price go a little more slow i buy the secon kit and complete the banks and full memory for work more well.
I have this motherboard of 2008 + o - and i'm so happy with Gigabyte is my second motherboard.
Here is my configuration:
Campo Valor
Sistema operativo Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Service Pack del sistema operativo Service Pack 3
Motherboard
Tipo de CPU QuadCore Intel Core i7 920, 2833 MHz (21 x 135)
Nombre del motherboard Gigabyte GA-EX58-Extreme (2 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x4, 3 PCI-E x16, 6 DDR3 DIMM, Audio, Dual Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)
Chipset del motherboard Intel Tylersburg X58, Intel Nehalem
Memoria del sistema 3328 MB (DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM)
DIMM1: OCZ XTC SLI OCZ3N1800SR2G 2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM (8-8-8-27 @ 666 MHz) (7-7-7-24 @ 583 MHz) (6-6-6-21 @ 500 MHz) (5-5-5-17 @ 416 MHz)
DIMM3: OCZ XTC SLI OCZ3N1800SR2G 2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM (8-8-8-27 @ 666 MHz) (7-7-7-24 @ 583 MHz) (6-6-6-21 @ 500 MHz) (5-5-5-17 @ 416 MHz)
Tipo de BIOS Award Modular (11/14/08)
Monitor
Placa de video ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (1024 MB)
Placa de video ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (1024 MB)
Aceleradora 3D ATI Radeon HD 4870 (RV770)
Monitor Monitor Plug and Play [NoDB] (200116843009)
Monitor Monitor Plug and Play [NoDB] (200116843009)
Multimedia
Placa de sonido ATI Radeon HDMI @ ATI RV770/790 - High Definition Audio Controller
Placa de sonido Realtek ALC889A @ Intel 82801JB ICH10 - High Definition Audio Controller
Almacenamiento
Controlador IDE Intel(R) ICH10 Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 2 - 3A26
Controlador IDE Intel(R) ICH10 Family 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1 - 3A20
Controlador de almacenamiento AVVAA1EP IDE Controller
Controlador de almacenamiento GIGABYTE GBB36X Controller
Disquetera Unidad de disquete
Disco rígido MAXTOR STM3500320AS (500 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II)
Disco rígido MAXTOR STM3500320AS (500 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II)
Disco rígido ST31500341AS (1500 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II)
Disco rígido ST31500541AS (1500 GB, 5900 RPM, SATA-II)
Disco óptico HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS50 (DVD+R9:16x, DVD-R9:12x, DVD+RW:22x/8x, DVD-RW:22x/6x, DVD-RAM:12x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/32x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM)
Disco óptico PUBEJSN NOHMZO5IZ0 SCSI CdRom Device
Estado SMART de los discos rígidos OK
Particiones
C: (NTFS) 1397.3 GB (62.7 GB libre)
E: (NTFS) 465.8 GB (1.4 GB libre)
F: (NTFS) 1397.3 GB (0.1 GB libre)
G: (NTFS) 465.8 GB (4.4 GB libre)
Tamaño total 3726.0 GB (68.7 GB libre)
Dispositivos de entrada
Teclado Logitech HID-Compliant Keyboard
Mouse HID-compliant Bluetooth Mouse
The Fun that i have is a Noctua, for the moment don't have liquid refrigeration.
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Seems a nice setup there and I notice that you could always run your C and F drives together in RAID0 for twice the performance if you wanted to. Something to consider for later maybe.
Anyway good luck. ;)
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I need to clean the Hard drives LOL and go to put a 2 TB in unit C: and the others of 1.5TB next
is tru that you tell me my windows have 2 years now and need a clean :P
The case is a LianLi Aluminium Black is well for the hard drives.
Only that don't like so much is the temperatures:
System 46º in red Fan 664rpm in red
CPU 40º in blue Fan 1071 rpm in red
Ty so much for the support
PD: never upload the Bios you think that need or if never have fails don't need upload?
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Ty so much for the support
PD: never upload the Bios you think that need or if never have fails don't need upload?
A bit of a language problem there I think but are you asking whether to download the BIOS for use in the future if needed ?
If so then it certainly wouldn't hurt.
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Is true sorry for my english, i want tell that never updated the Bios of my motherboard since the purchase.
Would be advisable to do so and which is the last version I can use?
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Oh, right then. No I would say that unless you are having a problem that can be helped by a BIOS update then just leave it as it is. Sometimes it is advisable to update to the latest version because it gives you extra options or features. ;)
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And what is the last version if i can ask, and the new options?
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Well the last full version is F12 but there are a couple of Beta versions which are also well tested F13j and F13S. Anyway they are available from here:
http://uk.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2957&dl=1#bios
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Hi i install the Kit of 3 modules of Corsair Vengance, but i think don't run well in three channel