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Title: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Aussie Allan on September 05, 2011, 09:59:12 am

  To one and All........need some input.

  Wow!.... It's only been a couple of years since I purchased my last PSU.......now I look and there's literally hundreds and 20+ in the "Highly Recommended/ Extreme Performance" Range.......

  The 12V rail in my present PSU will drop to as low as 8V under any load now.....amazed it will boot at all

  These are the ones I've been looking at as I need to order it today....not much time for research.....hence the post for input

  850W be quiet! Dark Power Pro P9 Modular ATX2.3 80PLUS Gold Power Supply ..... http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/850W+be+quiet!+Dark+Power+Pro+P9+Modular+ATX2.3+80PLUS+Gold+Power+Supply+?productId=43586


  OCZ ZX Series 1000W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply .... http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=123&page=2

  Never heard of the Be-Quiet PSUs but has been recommended twice .....any good for high end systems?

  Aussie Allan
 
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 05, 2011, 10:03:18 am
As you say there are many to choose from. Personally I like the Corsair but that is not to say that they are particularly better than many others.

What PSU did you have before ? Was it not still under warranty ? Most PSUs are guaranteed for 3 or more years nowadays.
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Aussie Allan on September 05, 2011, 10:33:00 am

 Mmmmmm!....Toughpower Modular 750W......5 yr warranty from 2007 so it covered regardless.........but never dealt with Thermaltake with RMA before ..... got this originally  due to 60Amp over 4 x 12v rails

  Can't find a number to talk to anyone!

  Do I want a 750W unit going back in when I feel I need a 850W minimum

  How long could the RMA process be?

  What da ya recon....AA
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: RatsAss on September 05, 2011, 10:37:11 am
This question comes up a lot at the AMD forum I frequent.  
These are the most recommended brands of PSU.

Corsair / Seasonic / Enermax / PC&C / Zippy / .

Seems a single +12v rail is better than multi railed units.
 I can vouch for Corsair,I have 3 of them.1 in my machine and the others in my kids pc's.

Dead silent and never a problem in 3 years. Plus they have a 5 year warranty.

That OCZ 10000w looks very capable,single rail @ 82 amps. ;)

I'm not sure about Be Quiet psu's..

IMO overkill is better. Go for an 850 or more. Room for future upgrades.
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: absic on September 05, 2011, 10:41:09 am
Hi Allan,

you're going about this the wrong way. All you really need is a Hamster, one running wheel, some copper wire and magnets plus a plentiful supply of sunflower seeds to keep said hamster fed!

Joking aside, I am also pretty much hooked on Corsair PSU's but I have used other makes. Thermaltake do have a generally good reputation as do Seasonic.

As to how much power you need only you can relly say for certain, according to the people who know my Corsair 620 Watt is supposed to be on the light side but it has taken everything I can throw at it and not fallen over. A steady voltage supply is as important as the amount of juice being thrown out and, as with all things, financial constraints will also be a factor in your final choice. If you believe that you need at least 850 Watts then don't be to tempted to go lower as you will only have the added burden of not being confident in your PSU.
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 05, 2011, 11:07:11 am
Hi two things Allan. The first being that your original PSU is under warranty to get it replaced/repaired anyway as it gives you a spare/backup unit for anytime you might need it.

Secondly have a look at the same power supply that I am using in one of my machines the Corsair HX850W. Absolutely brilliant and to top it all off it comes with a seven(yes 7 years) years warranty!! Just shows how much faith Corasir has in it.
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Aussie Allan on September 05, 2011, 11:28:11 am
Hi two things Allan. The first being that your original PSU is under warranty to get it replaced/repaired anyway as it gives you a spare/backup unit for anytime you might need it.

Secondly have a look at the same power supply that I am using in one of my machines the Corsair HX850W. Absolutely brilliant and to top it all off it comes with a seven(yes 7 years) years warranty!! Just shows how much faith Corasir has in it.

  Be-leave in Deja vu....... just two minutes ago decided on the "Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Power supply - 850 Watt"  (Modular)... I think I found one for 111 pounds +ship.......and yes....RMA for a spare...... the TAKE has been a pretty good PSU to be honest..........man Ive cranked that thing till it smoked I recon ;D

  Thanks for the sounding board.......I need to order this ASAP ... probably a good thing .... to much time spent researching .... I'd probably change my mind several more times in the next week and end up ordering the first choice.......as per usual!

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Aussie Allan on September 05, 2011, 11:35:30 am
Hi Allan,

you're going about this the wrong way. All you really need is a Hamster, one running wheel, some copper wire and magnets plus a plentiful supply of sunflower seeds to keep said hamster fed!

Joking aside, I am also pretty much hooked on Corsair PSU's but I have used other makes. Thermaltake do have a generally good reputation as do Seasonic.

As to how much power you need only you can relly say for certain, according to the people who know my Corsair 620 Watt is supposed to be on the light side but it has taken everything I can throw at it and not fallen over. A steady voltage supply is as important as the amount of juice being thrown out and, as with all things, financial constraints will also be a factor in your final choice. If you believe that you need at least 850 Watts then don't be to tempted to go lower as you will only have the added burden of not being confident in your PSU.

  Thanks for the input Absic but this is a real computer that would require at least 4 Rodents with steroid laced soya-beans for fuel ;D hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

  No really thanks for the input.....when several people say the same thing........you know you're looking in the right direction

  RipJaws! Thanks also for your input ... seems we look at the same wesites....( Corsair / Seasonic / Enermax / PC&C / Zippy / .)......Unfortunately PC&C and Zippy are like T-Rex teeth in England ;)

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Aussie Allan on September 05, 2011, 12:07:32 pm

  Scratch the 111.......134.98 cheapest in the uk for the Corsair Professional Series Gold modular AX850 Power Supply........voted number 1 in the UK as of last month..cool!

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 05, 2011, 01:38:30 pm
Yes it is a cracking piece of kit, I would have bought it myself but it wasn't released to market until a couple of weeks after I bought my HX850W. I notice that the AX series only carries a 5 year warranty as opposed to the HX series which has a 7 year warranty.
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Aussie Allan on September 05, 2011, 02:05:11 pm


  Probably to do with the guaranteed +- voltage tolerances .... 5 yrs is fine for me......I'll want to be running U238 by then.

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 05, 2011, 02:13:09 pm
Oh, I agree that five years is plenty and would be happy with that.

I couldn't understand what an old German U-boat has got to do with anything though. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: absic on September 05, 2011, 02:23:10 pm
I couldn't understand what an old German U-boat has got to do with anything though. ;D ;D ;D

It's for an advanced form of water cooling I think!  :P
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 05, 2011, 02:47:54 pm
Bloody clever these Germans!  ;D
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Aussie Allan on September 05, 2011, 03:14:33 pm


      "Can Uranium 238 ( commonly known as U238 ) Solve the Global  Energy Crisis".........

    http://blog.cleantechies.com/2010/08/26/can-uranium-238-solve-the-energy-crisis/

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 05, 2011, 08:52:19 pm
It does sound promising but then so have many other things in the past! Let's hope that they have got it right this time as this energy crisis seems to be worsening.

Let's face it there is a limit to the number of hampsters that absic can breed!
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: absic on September 07, 2011, 06:22:40 pm
There are no limits to the amount of hamsters (or even hampsters) I can breed and it is in fact very easy.

Start with two (one of each sex), give them a nice meal and some wine, turn the lights out then wait for a couple of weeks. Suddenly you find there are lots of hamsters!  ;D
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 07, 2011, 08:08:00 pm
Could be a nice little business then absic.  Hamster heaven!  ;D
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Aussie Allan on September 07, 2011, 09:24:13 pm


  Your a sick puppy Absic.......I can see your profile now on "EyeDate.com"...........

  Open minded woman required.................must be willing to have AMD tattooed on her butt ................ and like swinging with HamPsters to advance green technology :D

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Ben on October 07, 2011, 11:48:10 pm
Forget the Uranium 238, you are better of with this stuff; "Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator" from 'Marvin the Martian' it was only the size of a stick of dynamite but pretty powerful, now if you could harness this, not only could you control your own computer but everyone else's, just charge a small fee.
Ben.
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Aussie Allan on October 07, 2011, 11:54:29 pm


  And who said cartoons aren't educational

  Phineas & Ferb Rock too!

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: teknology9 on October 16, 2011, 08:58:48 pm
I'm surprised you didn't go for the AX1200 or the HX 1050 Allan especially with your X79 build pending.
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Aussie Allan on October 16, 2011, 09:27:39 pm

  Will probably buy a 1000W next... Jan .....Feb.....Xmas sales........plenty of time!

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 17, 2011, 06:58:01 am
To my way of thinking you can never have too much power even if you are not actually using the full quota. A large quality PSU is a great foundation for any build, but not only that it should last for a good few years also.
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: teknology9 on October 17, 2011, 09:45:07 am
Hi,

Yes, I'm thinking about buying another soon and have my existing one as a backup. I read about the HX1050 from a TweakTown review, and decided until I saw this:

Quote
While the DC output quality wasn't the best we have seen from Corsair, it certainly is good enough for almost any enthusiast grade system.


The review is here:

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4195/corsair_hx1050_1050_watt_power_supply_review/index5.html

For that money I want it to be the best so comments would be appreciated.

Teknology9
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 17, 2011, 10:33:19 am
Well if you want even better quality, staying with Corsair try looking at the AX1200 Gold series.

Antec have a Gold series the HCP1200 which is actually better on most aspects than the Corsair version.

Seasonic do a very nice one that is Platinum rated and of extremely good quality but obviously doesn't come cheap.
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Aussie Allan on October 17, 2011, 10:47:39 am

                         " If I went off a single review to buy all my kit......I would be a hermit living in the woods"

  

   Any information we pull off the net...... is only as good as the people that post them! .....once I make my mind up on a specific product ......I then will hunt down several reviews to give me the accurate average I want ...... then hit applicable forums to gauge actual peoples views that are using them

  Corsair..... although they have not published anything to point me in this direction ...... have made it there mission to get to the top in a very big market ...... Any PSU that can hold 0.5% on the 12V rail to 1000W is Legend!

  Beside targeting a single 12V rail design.......It's the components inside that will tell the Tail ..... high quality components used in construction will insure superior performance and life,  like using ........

  A special colour code is used for the fourth band tolerance:
silver ±10%,   gold ±5%,   red ±2%,   brown ±1%.
If no fourth band is shown the tolerance is ±20%.


  It's not necessary to have red or brown forth bands everywhere......just where it's critical to get high tolerance parameters ......Corsair are the exception with a very high count of high tolerance components onboard ....not just resistors ....Hence the long warranted guarantees.

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 17, 2011, 11:08:50 am
I would have to agree there. I haven't come across anything recently with Corsair branding that isn't of very high quality. If they put their name on it you can rest assured that it is a well made and specced bit of kit. They do seem to be slowly bringing out more and more components so soon hopefully you should be able to buy anything you want with the Corsair brand on it.
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: teknology9 on October 17, 2011, 12:09:11 pm
@Aussie Allan,

You would give the Corsair HX 1050 a thumbs up then?

I have read the other reviews by the way, it was just that piece that stood out, but thanks for the advice.

Yes, I like corsair that's why I brought one of there PSU's, just been on the Corsair forum a few people have experienced noises from the HX 1050 and had to RMA it, but you only here the about the those posts not the good ones it would seem.
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: teknology9 on December 15, 2011, 07:40:30 pm
Hi All,

Continuing with this theme I recently purchased a Seasonic Platinum 1000w PSU for a new build and would highly recommend it as the build quality is second to none. There is a few reviews here:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Seasonic/P1000/

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1336/pg1/seasonic-platinum-series-1000w-power-supply-review-introduction.html

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=264

3 reviews.....not forgeting the rule of course.

Teknology9  ;D
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Dark Mantis on December 15, 2011, 08:37:02 pm
I can honestly say I have never seen a bad Seasonic and I have had several myself. They are always a class bit of kit although not usually cheap.
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: teknology9 on December 15, 2011, 08:47:39 pm
There speaks a Moderator who possess wisdom.......knowledge.....and good taste!!!! :)
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: Dark Mantis on December 15, 2011, 08:50:26 pm
There speaks a good judge of character!  ;)
Title: Re: New PSU ... Too Much Choice
Post by: teknology9 on December 15, 2011, 08:51:37 pm
DM....you make me laugh!!!! ;D