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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: mrfalk on September 09, 2011, 07:42:19 am
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Hey everyone turning my head to this forum since i cant find any solution to my problem..
i bought a new computer with all parts new and installed everything with all the anti static things i could find wrist band, matt, etc but now ii been fail serching for 4 days now and still havent figured out what is wrong. it started out when i was trying to install windows but it keep freezing during the install so i removed all the rams and installed with only one wich i thought was strange with new components oh well after all installs was done i went and inserted all the rams and i starded to freeze in windows. i never get BOSD just freezes so i removed the ram again did all updates to the software i could find and tryed again same thing freeze....
i copyed the bios to the backup bios aswell no diffrence there :(
i dont know what to do more
this is my setup
Chassi: Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced
Motherboard: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3
CPU: Intel I5 2400 QuadCore 3,3GHz
GPU: XFX 6970 Radeon HD XXX Editon
Ram 4x2GB A-data XPG G Serie (adata AX3U1333GB2G8-BG DDR3 1333(8) 2GX16 CL 8-8-8-24)
Storage: Corsair SSD Performence III 128GB + Caviar Hdd500gb
OS windows 7 ultimate 64-bits
Bios ver F5
Now to the problem
The motherboard wont run with all 4 rams inserted but work flawless with 3
did memtest84+ with all 4 rams inserted but no errors and test passed
1 Freezes in windows
2 keyboard + Mouse die lights go off and computer stills runing
next thing i noticed is that my ram has cl 8-8-8-24 but in the bios and in windows it says that the cl is 9-9-9-24 will this effect this problem maybe ?
i tryed to move the rams around but made no diffrence.
what i noticed is that it seems likedim slot 2 in channel A is making the problem couse it works with rams in 1,3,4 but not with 1,2,3,4
i was thinking off maybe i need to do soemthing in bios but im no pro on that i i dont want to mkae more problems then i all rdy have.
My thinkings about the problem
1, DimmSlot is fried. motherboard fault on stock maybe ?
2, Options in Bios is wrong.
3, Ram is not compatible
4, im just a noob and dont know what im doing ;D
any help in this matter will be greatly accepted :)
before i contact the retailer for a new motherboard
Sorry for the long post but this is the last place for me to turn and i mean with new parts that dont work just makes you want to kill yourself and i mean its not free to get new parts =( i putted alot of money in to this gameing machine :'( :'( :'(
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Hi and welcome.
The first thing to realise is that even brand new stock can be faulty so don't think that it can't fail as it's new!
It could be that the pins in the CPU socket have got bent, or that the memory modules are faulty. It is even possible that the memory controller on the CPU is faulty.
Try running Memtest86+ (properly this time) by following these instructions:
Please follow these instructions exactly.
I would suggest that you download and run the latest version of Memtest86+ to check your RAM first.
Memtest86+ http://www.memtest.org/
Insert one stick of memory in slot 1 and run Memtest on it for at least 10 complete loops/cycles and if there are no errors then swap it over with the next one and continue untill you have checked all modules.
If you have any errors the module is faulty.
If you have any faulty modules you will have to return the whole kit as they are matched.
Post back when you have done that with the results.
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Welcome mrfalk
The answer is...... Your a noob and don't know.....only joking ;D it's probably not as bad as you think .... we'll start with the most obvious and work down till we find the problem the PC God gave you.
First thing you need to do is download Memtest and configure it on a mem-stick or CD/DVD..........next you need to put in one stick of mem in slot 1 of your motherboard (this doesn't mean the first slot you see) ... and run ten passes ... yes this will take a while .... if the first stick passes ... move to the next
I suspect you have a single module that has slipped through Quality control.......post your result before you RMA anything
Aussie Allan
UPDATE;.....DM types faster then me......but good minds think................
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Thx For the quick answear
i dont rly understand
CPU socket have got bent
It is even possible that the memory controller on the CPU is faulty.
you mean the Proccesor can effect problems in the ram memory ? or do i understand it wrong ?
and about memetest84+ i did it with all 4 inserted and no errors then
does it make a diffrence but doing it one by one ?
and with cycles you mean run it 10 times or pass the 10-11 tests ?
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Thx For the quick answear
i dont rly understand
CPU socket have got bent
It is even possible that the memory controller on the CPU is faulty.
you mean the Proccesor can effect problems in the ram memory ? or do i understand it wrong ?..."YES" Memory controller is now on-die (CPU)
and about memetest84+ i did it with all 4 inserted and no errors then
does it make a diffrence but doing it one by one ? ..absolutely....a bad module can pass with it's mates helping but will fail by itself
and with cycles you mean run it 10 times or pass the 10-11 tests ?....10 Passes with no errors each pass.....(run it ten times)
This will allow you to find the problem or rule out the memory as a potential problem
Aussie Allan....
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oh crap
you mean the Proccesor can effect problems in the ram memory ? or do i understand it wrong ?..."YES" Memory controller is now on-die (CPU)
now my hearth beat 200% faster pls pls pls dont let it be the CPU
ill do the tests on the ram one by one 10 time pass when i get home from work, and i post the result here so check back in about 8 hours ::) ::) ::)
Edit: is there some way to find the ram:s id/serial nr couse i got all my memorys in a anti static bag but i think they are 2x2gb kits trued to find out on google but i cant even find the adata 8-8-8-24 2gb 1333ghx ddr3 (AX3U1333GB2G8-BG) info anywere AX3U1333GB2G8-BG seams not to exist not even on adatas own page
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It will take many hours to run Memtest fully. Make sure that you download the latest version for it. And yes ten complete cycles each.
The modern CPUs have the memory controller built into them, integrated, so the chip actually controls the RAM as well. Don't worry if it is faulty all your parts are covered by a warranty so no worries there. It's just a case of pinning down the offending part.
The modules should have a serial number on them and if bought as a kit it is normally sequential. The trouble is AData is not the best mnemory and so at the cheaper end of the market it might forgo these little niceties.
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yeah couse all four of them look exactly the same all labels has the same nr and the samw writeing on them nothing ON the memory i uniqe like a nr or something thats why i asking couse can that be the problem aswell ?
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Don't worry too much...as DM said.....you wont be out of pocket...... lets just find out the problem first.......if you slice off the -BG off AX3U1333GB2G8-BG you'll find a lot more hits.....
It looks to me as they might be second bin modules that did not get through the triple channel kit quality control.... nothing to do with overall quality.....they just bin then into categories for maximum compatibility.......... triple channel....dual channel and so on and change the last two letters
Aussie Allan
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okey :'( :'( :'( :'(
ill do the memtest84 to start with ill be intouch soon again
just im little frustrated since its a new computer and it doesent work but i belive you guys have the knowledge so i listen to you =)
//Mrfalk
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Okey done the memtest 86+ ver 4,20 now on all 4 rams 1 by 1 and no error even did a 10 cycle with all of them inside and nothing. i even re-flashed my bios to F5 and Clear CMOS and enter the vital settings and still same problem
i found out another thing doh will doing this it seams like when ever i but a ram in slot 2 the computer starts to freak out ^^ so to me it sound like a fried DIMM SLOT ?
the problems i get when i insert a ram in slot 2 is that keyboard and mouse stop working and light and all go off on them OR the Computer complety frezzes
funny thing is with rams in slot 1 3 4 it works flawless =/ and i did notice that in memtest86+ it say 9-9-9-24 on the settings to the memory but they should be 8-8-8-24 think that has something to do with it maybe ?
Iv got a few screenshoots of the Ram's and a few from how the memtest86 looked i can alsow get some from the bios if you like =)
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Not being pedantic but did you allow each module to run through ten cycles on it's own in Memtest ?
The next thing is to check your CPU socket for damaged pins.
Take all the usual anti-static precautions.
Very carefully remove the heatsink and fan. Probably a slight twisting motion is best to release the two as the thermal paste can act like a glue.
Once off remove the CPU taking extreme care both physically and electrically(static) and place somewhere safe.
Make sure that the lighting is very good and even.
Now scrutinise the socket for any pins that are out of alignment, even slightly.
Take a couple of macro (close up) photos of the socket and post them on here for us to check.
Also look at the bottom of the CPU at the lands (little copper circles) and make sure that there is a mark in each somewhere near the centre.
If there are any missing marks or any of the pins are obviously bent then that is your problem.
Before refitting the CPU clean off all residue of the old thermal paste and the same on the heatsink and then apply a small amount (about the size of a grain of rice) to the centre of the CPU once it is inserted in the socket.
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OK......good news with the memory........so now where down to two probables..........slot two may well be fried but as DM picked earlier........you need to look (Critically) at the CPU pin nest........ good , steady Macro shots are best but a good , strong magnifying glass and torch works too
There small buggers but what your looking for will seem almost like a shadow where it shouldn't be..........or post some shots for us to look at
There's a strong chance you'll find something..........and there DIY fixable......but let's just find the fault first.....report back with your findings
Aussie Allan..........Update!....DM types faster then me but good to have confirmation Tee Hee!
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As you say Allan confirmation of a good idea is always useful.
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Okey removed the CPU and Scanned with my xray eye for bent pins and dident find anything suspicious at all even looked at the round things on the CPu and nothing there ether ^^
Toke some pic as you requested but my camera had some hard time focusing on the small pins (cheap Digital cam)
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Now the the funny part am sitting with the 4x2rams inserted after the cpu check and been inside windows runing with out any problems for 30 min now so maybe some oin on the Cpu wasent connecting proparly ?
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To be honest the photos weren't nearly good enough quality to be able to tell if there were any damaged pins. Sometimes you can tell from the lands on the CPU but they weren't clear enough either.
If as you say it is runnning ok now it quite possible could be just down to a bad fitting of the CPU when fitted first. Just run it for a while and see if you get the fault recurring.
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i think i spoke to soon =( 45 min in to the runing i was putting the case back to getter and attached the 2 Noctun NF-P14 fans on the side wall and raised the comp back up from side to standing position it frozze like instantly think it can be a Power problem ?
and im sorry i couldent get better pic but according to my eye everything looked fin and all the round things had marks on them!!
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PSU history please.......did this happen when you connected the fans.....what size/brand PSU.....how old......
Aussie Allan
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For future note it is not advisable to move a computer around, pick it up, etc when it is working. It could be a simple bad connection on something. One of my PSUs has a dodgy connection on the 24 pin connector and I keep meaning to fix it but as I am aware of it I don't find it a problem.
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Yes computer was down on the side and i raised it bak up and connected 2 Noctua Nf-p14 that i have on the side wall and closed the case and raised it up and keyboard and mouse die and comp frozze
My PSU is a
Fractal Design Tesla 650w / active PFC
and this is my setting on it
Motherboard: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3
CPU: Intel I5 2400 QuadCore 3,3GHz
GPU: XFX 6970 Radeon HD XXX Editon
Ram: 4x2gb 1333Ghz A-data XPG Gaming Serie
Storage: Corsair SSD 128GB + Hdd500gb
Screens: 2x 24" Benq Led 1x 24" Lcd
Fans
3x Noctua NF-P14 140mm
1x Noctua NF-R8 80mm
1x CoolerMaster BC 140 Blue LED Fan
2x Xigmatex Crystal 120mm Blue LED Fan
3x CoolMaster BladeMaster 120mm
= 10 fans omg ^^
Maybe i should Strip downs some fans?
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i mean the graffic card alone need 650w and thats what my PSU out put is
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The graphics card wopn't be using anything like that but I expect that is what has been recommended by the manufacturer allowing for other components. Even so the PSU is a bit on the low side for what you have. It certainly wouldn't hurt to upgrade it.
Never buy a cheap and nasty power supply they can go wrong and take out all you other expensive components at the same time. Purchase a good make like Seasonic, CWT, Corsair, Thermaltake, Enermax, Gigabyte, Coolermaster, Antec, etc and try and get one with a single 12V rail if possible. I would advise you to get one of about 750W minimum depending on your hardware demands.
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so you think its a Power Fail then ? since it is working now the power supply sometime have this buzzing/wheezing sound
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Well it's quite possible especially from your description of what happened. The only trouble is there is nothing to confirm that.
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well computer has been runing for 2h now with out those 2 noctun fans so maybe i should reconsider buy better PSU or disconnect some fans ill get back on that soon
now to the next thing on my problems how does it effect that CL is 9-9-9-24 and it says 8-8-8-24 on the rams ? does it have any effect that the computer settings is on 9-9-9-24 ?
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The timings of 9-9-9-24 are just a bit looser and wont hurt at all. You might be able to get the RAM to run at the tighter timings of 8-8-8-24 if you manually enter them. I really wouldn't worry for now as you already have one problem without causing any more.
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One thing at a time PLLLLLLLLLLeassssssse!....... If your wallet is obese...... I not one week ago purchased the AX850 Corsair (Professional series) now this some serious bit of kit
Voltage tolerances as low as .3%....single 12V rail......Ive had an i7-950 all the way to 4.45GHZ and back again.....and survived to talk about it!
We still could be wrong , but it is looking like..........."To Much Draw " for the power supply in question...... most of what you listed comes off the 12v rail/s.........the HX and TX series are still pretty tidy PSUs as well, and priced accordingly to quality and features......not many people need the AX high tolerance spec.........but you only live once ;)
Aussie Allan
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well what i read Tesla 650 have 4 seperatly 12v rail etc according to the specs but i still a noob on all the values and stuff so im listening to what you say so basicly i need a power supply that is almost the same as the one i have to day except that i need more Watt or ?
im confused ?
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If you have 4 different rails the wattage is divided up over the four rails (max rating per rail)........if you have 70% of the total 12v load on one rail!.....Bad!....very Bad!........BANG!
you can do the figures and divide the load up on the 12v cables being careful to get a good balance.....but it's a hassle....it is hearsay though......one of the rails might be already gone....hard to say......it'll be the rail/cable you had those fans running off..............or .........buy a PSU with a single rail and not have to worry again
to future proof yourself ....and to allow for hardware aging aim for a 750watt minimum ......have a look at this neat power supply configuration utility......it'll get you on your way nicely
I always multiply by about 1.3 to account for aging for about 3 yrs.....http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
Aussie Allan
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so with all the stuff i get 668w recommended and should i mutliply that with 1.3 you say thats 868,4 ??
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850Watts .....perfect!
Aussie Allan
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it has to be the power supply now im runing with this
MOTHERBOARD
CPU
GPU
SSD DISK
HDD DISK
5x FANS
1x FAN CONTROLLER
and it seams stable so far atleast for a 2 hour run as im in to now but as soon as i connect something ells the computer gets freaky and start to make problems
so im guessing only way to find out is to get another PSU to Count that out of the fault search
im not sure if i did everything right on that setup but i totly tells me i need more Power atleast
So Aussie Allan have any recomendations on a good PSU 850W for a fair amonth of money
and should i aim for Modular or None Modular
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Modular is easier to keep tidy as you only connect the cables you need. Have a look at the Corsair range they do a couple of nice 850W that would suit you. The HX is a good all rounder and not too expensive.
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sorry this is in another Languages but is it this you recommend ?
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=460921
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Yes that is the model. I have been using it myself on my main machine for about a year now and it has behaved brilliantly.
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I agree!........I just purchased my first Corsair PSU and ...... well to be honest.....it's the best PSU that's crossed my desk.........I was lucky as the AX850 was on special so was only about 4% more then the HX.........these are a truly Modular PSU with nothing hard wired hanging out of the PSU.....5 and 7yr warranty, you Know you have a serious piece of kit.......every cable you could ever want .....even the packaging was above excellent right down to the black cloth bag with draw string.......a very happy bunny indeed
I actually got the link for mine through ebay........seller ID was .....Box_uk ..( ebay@box.co.uk ).....134.98 pounds ... for the AX850..Bargain!
Aussie Allan
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so i should go for ether the 850W HX or AX guessing the AX is little better the HX right ?
well atleast i got my problem solved got all 4x2gbs of ram inserted GPU is running good and so far now freeze for about 4 hours
i have striped down my case of all the none essential stuff like a couple off led fans the fan controller an extra pci screenslave card domr usb stuff connected etc so now im down to the basic i need for the comp to run smooth i just need some extra juice for the stuff i removed
ill get back to you guys as soon as i have the new PSU if that solves the rest off the problems or if they keep coming ^^ to bad i have to pay for another PSU when the old one is only a couple of months ^^
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The other one is still under warranty so you could RMA it without buying another but that would leave you without the computer while it was being sorted. The AX is the top of the range but the HX is a close second.
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Well computer still freaks out and now i dont have anything connect more then GPU CPU+FAN and HHDs hmmm works with all 8gbs ram now but now it freezez in windows and sound start to Buzzz in my speaker and i have to reboot still sound like power supply ? or can it be made my OS or SSD disk i have it on ?
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I still think it PSU.....everything points to it's fading............."POP"
Aussie Allan
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okey i start in that end then since the ram dident give any errors and Cpu looked fine to me and now i can actully run for a few hours with all off them inserted
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I would advise NOT turning on the computer again until you have replaced the PSU. If it does suddenly head south it might take other components with it. From your description it sounds as if it is getting worse.
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There order made 1 Coirsair AX 850W PSU on the way =) plus some extra stuff active minidp to s-dvi and a longer dvi cables so i can run my fourth screen aswell =) ill be intouch
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A smart man on the other end .... I hope it's the only problem but the PSU is defiantly one of them making a true analysis imposable
You'll be well impressed with the investment.
Aussie Allan
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OFF TOPIC
i have an off topic related question do the HDD need to be same size and same brand for a Raid 0 storage ?
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Ideally Yes!...........this will give you the least problems and highest performance for a given brand and model.......what drives did you have in mind ....I may be able to help you here with Quality verses price/longevity
Aussie Allan
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was just some random 250gb sata disk i had laying around thats all dont know brand and rpm on them since im at work atm but ill get you the info when i get home ;D thx for the answear anyway ;D
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:D While you're busy WORKING! my suggestion for exceptional bang for buck was Samsung spinpoints ....F3 HD502HJ.....this is a 500Gb model....7200rpm....NCQ.....16Mb Cache.....these can be had for as little as 16.5 Engish Pence per GB (about 30 Pounds each) ... Scan, Aria, Ebuyer
The real gem is they outperform about 50/60% of Sata3 drive on the market today..........I have 4 of these in Raid0 for my Photo storage ....545Mb/s read and 525Mb/s write...........be warned..........once you start to enjoy this level of drive speed/access.......you'll never go back... ;)
ENJOY!
Aussie Allan
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The 1TB version of the F3 is another very good drive and also at a good price. I guess it all depends on how much storage you really need.
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well im more after the performence and not the storage since im going to go with one 128gb ssd for operating system and 250x2 for storage i was thinking for games/video/music etc and i heard that Raid 0 on the 250 would increase read/write performence??
maybe its possible to make Raid from 1x128gb ssd and 2x250gb hdd ? or is that not possible or will it just give me a headache and more problems to fight with ??
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Even if you did manage to do it you wouldn't be gaining anything as the SSD is much faster already than your other drives. The way you had it planned is fine in my opinion.
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oh kk i go for what i first was planing then thx DM
but im going to wait untile i get the new power supply before i start to experiment with that since my system is unstable and twicy as it is
put im planing ahead thats just how i am :P
can i ask something ells? it is possible to run 4 screen from on single 6970 right or do i need to get another card and crossfire ?
i read on there homepage that it supports up tp 6 screen but dident rly find or get if you needed another GPU for that ?
any one tryed this out or have som info about it ?
maybe we should change topic to Gigabyte P67A-UD4-B3 (rev 1,1) system unstability problems :P
and anyone know any good watercooling site for learning and building a nice and sweet system?
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There are certain Radeons that will support up to six screens at once from one card but it is only a couple of models as far as I am aware. The rest will output to a maximum of three displays.
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okey now i got my new PSU and im very impressed.. i connected everything to the computer all Fan,Screens,HHD,Usb devices, the whole sheee bang.....
BUT the Ram Problem Remains windows keep freezing and mouse/keyboard goes offf when all 4 rams ar inserted to the M/B
Rams Okey with Memtest86
PSU Okey.
so what left now change motherboard ? or can it be some kind off voltage problem in Bios maybe ? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Well now we have good clean power that a start.....Awesome PSU , aren't they........This is one of the longer posts Ive been involved in ....so I reread the whole lot to refresh the memory.
The way I see it either you have a bad memory slot .......or a memory compatibility issue with the Adata Dimms...........I don't know what it's like in your country but over here Adata just does not have a very good reputation ....compatibility being number one.........which make me think the memory more likely.
This is the hard part!...........the only way we can rule out a compatibility issue is to find, beg ,borrow , steal a set of another manufacturer's memory to test in the board
Preferably something tried and tested, corsair, Mushkin, G.skill .... there's not many memory's I can't find any information on......this is what worries me as I can't find diddlie squat on those numbers you supplied .... what do you think?
Aussie Allan
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Well i was thinking off the borrow some other Rams Aswell but problem i dont have anyone to steal the from :P so its ether buy new ones and take the chance on that the once i have aint compatible with the board but its a excpensive chance :P
i got some screen on the rams for you if it helps :P
strange thing is that bios cant even auto detect the CL on them the bios puts them top 9-9-9-24 when they should be 8-8-8-24 i mean that have to prove something aint as it should be ?
or is it just me.......'
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Not sure if you used a Etailer or Retailer..... either way, it's worth a shot approaching them and explaining the sager your have and the real possibility of non compatibility with the memory they supplied and can they help out somehow..... with a lend of anything to test out or a swap with a different brand,similar price...........you might be surprised......got to be worth a shot anyway!
Aussie Allan
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So you dont think the Bios has any effect on it ?
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So you dont think the Bios has any effect on it ?
Possible ....but unlikely!......... you can put it to the test by dropping back a peg (Bios) and retest ........then go back another and try again.......how far can you go back ? .... you have nothing to loose and it costs nothing :)
Aussie Allan
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how do you mean now go back a peg ? you mean version or im confussed and frustrated ^^
dont feel right that you have to but more money in to something that you all rdy payed to much for :P
got no hair left soon
im going to Reinstall windows this week and check if it can be a corrupted install or something like that since computer fails inside windows and not in bios or memtest86
so well see what happens 6gb works for now i guess
*some eye Candy*
this is how my setup look like
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You should definitely try removing two of the modules as if you have four they will require setting by hand as auto won't usually hack it. So just put two modules in DDR3_1 and DDR3_3. See how you go from there. If everything works ok then it is probably just the BIOS settings. If not then the RAM needs changing.
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okey ill try that and see if the motherboard reconize the rams and copy the Bios setting if they do and insert all four and but same settings then ?
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The thing is when you fill all the banks with memory modules you are putting a higher loading on the memory controller so usually you will need to increase the voltage a touch to compensate. There are also other settings that also require some tweaking often too the QPI/Vtt etc.
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So what your saying is that if the rams aint compatible you have to do that all manual ? since the board to recognize the ram ??? ???
or if its not campatible it dosent work at all ?
how do i know what settings i should use then if the m-board dont now how ?
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If the motherboard and memory just isn't compatible then there is little that you can do to change that. If however it is just a case of running with a full compilment of memory modules then manually setting them up can often make all the difference.
The timings and voltages required are usually on the manufacturer's website and often printed on the side of the modules also.
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problem is that i cant even find the Rams on A-datas own webpage i think its a old model and to find specific info about the once i have seam impossible. thing is they are like only 3-4 months old so i would think that they should have soem info
this is what i found
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DDR3-1333G
XPG DDR3 Unbuffered-DIMM Non ECC Memory
In order to provide the growing PC gaming market with the best memory hardware designed for multiple online gamers, DDR3-1333G is available as single channel kits up to 2GB and also as 2GBx2/1GBx2 dual-channel configurations with latency settings at 8-8-8-24. Furthermore, since the next generation Intel Core™ i7 platform using the latest DDR3 technologies has proven that i7's internal controller gives a notable performance increase while using DDR3 triple channel modules. A-DATA is also ready for production of G Series DDR3 triple channel kits providing computer enthusiasts memory modules they need. Also, these new modules are available in 3GB and 6GB configurations. With high capacity up to 6GB, these memories can unleash the true power of 64-bit operating system, Windows Vista® platform.
The whole Gaming Series memory line is customized to fulfill gamers' need of performance and stability. A-DATA G Series modules are guaranteed to satisfy the needs of the most demanding multiple online gamers as well as professional graphic designers and multimedia auditors.
Suitable for: Desktop PCs
Module Type: 240Pin Unbuffered-DIMM Non-ECC
Capacity Available: 4GB Dual Channel Kit (2GBx2)、2GB Dual Channel Kit (1GBx2)、2GB Kit (2GBx1)、1GB Kit (1GBx1)
IC Configuration: 128M x8
Transmission Bandwidth: 10666MB/Sec（PC3-10666）
Cas Latency Timing: 8-8-8-24
Working Voltage: 1.65V~1.85V
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I may have something for you If you have not tried this as yet
your memory is rated 8-8-8-24 at 1.65 to 1.75v..........is your memory voltage at 1.5 ...9.9.9.24...?
Also try to have just one Monitor running while you trouble shoot......4 monitors just adds to the confusion as more voltage may even be required on the PCI-E voltage....(It is just one GPU you're running)
TRY THIS!
Set your memory manually to begin with to the following settings......9.9.9.24 timings .... speed at 1333.....not 1033....not 1600 but 1333..........set your memory voltage from 1.5v to 1.66 manually as well.........if stability is still a problem but a little better.....increase QPI/VTT .125 of a volt..........(Very Very important ...Memory voltage MUST be within .5 of a volt of PQI/VTT or damage to the controller on the CPU may result) so if your default QPI/VTT is 1.135v.....The max you can have your memory is 1.635v to keep the .5v ratio .....this is why I sujested raising your QPI/VTT a tad.......this is also , probably required as you're filling all the slots.......I have 24GB in my system and had to do a fair bit of little changes to get them 99.999% stable......I also went through 2 brands and 3 sets before finding what works for me!....
if your memory is not compatible with your system.....there's not a lot we can do about it......it's just one of those things you have to deal with!
If the memory proves to be not compatible.......you have grounds to return them for a exchange to a brand that does work....I'm quoting off the info you posted bellow.....
"QUOTE"
The whole Gaming Series memory line is customized to fulfill gamers' need of performance and stability. A-DATA G Series modules are guaranteed to satisfy the needs of the most demanding multiple online gamers as well as professional graphic designers and multimedia auditors.
I'm not saying this is the 100% problem/answer........just it is the most likely and with these manually configured settings.........you will have the best chance of getting this brand/type of memory to work with your system........having had to deal with a second problem that was the PSU has made this whole process extremely painful for you.....where all just doing the best we can to help you!
PS....I should have been more specific with my English....."knock it back a peg".... should have been....Revert back to the previous BIOS"
If you have any hair left.....report back your findings ;)
Aussie Allan
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ill check the Bios when i get home and check what its sett to and post it here
since im not english i had a hard time to under stand this part
increase QPI/VTT .125 of a volt..........(Very Very important ...Memory voltage MUST be within .5 of a volt of PQI/VTT or damage to the controller on the CPU may result) so if your default QPI/VTT is 1.135v.....The max you can have your memory is 1.635v to keep the .5v ratio
you mean if i raise memory voltage to 1.660 i have to raise the QPI/VTT to 1.160 volt ? and i shouldent change the timing to 8-8-8-24 then ?
did i understand it right
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you mean if i raise memory voltage to 1.660 i have to raise the QPI/VTT to 1.160 volt ?............ Yes you are correct.....QPI/VTT must not drop below .5 of a volt of the Memory voltage regardlesss........... and i shouldent change the timing to 8-8-8-24 then ?.........You could try leaving them there......I just though temporarily you could loosen the timings to 9-9-9-24 which should be even more stable but you must raise the voltage to 1.66 at least to comply with the manufactures voltage recommendation at 1033 or what I recommended of 1333
Just to be absolutely clear......running this memory at 8.8.8.24 at 1.50volts and 1033Mhz is the stock speed......anything faster is technically overclocking as far as JEDEC is concerned....(Yes it's complicated) even though it's marketed and sold as 8.8.8.24 1600
When you get a bit more use to playing around in the BIOS with the memory.....I would not be surprised..... if it ran quite happily at 1033 with 1.5v - 7.8.7.20
Aussie Allan
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okey tryed dram voltage 1.660 and QPI/VTT 1.160
first of all the Dram voltage 1.660 is pink color instead of white like warning i guess
first time it freezes in windows loading screen mouse/keyboard dies on screen connected nothing ells
reboot and then this came up
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3528/dsc00686xm.jpg)
and this is what Bios look like
(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2981/dsc00690n.jpg)
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3053/dsc00688qv.jpg)
with this setting and all 4 rams no changes to the problem =( still windows freeze on load up and mouse/keyboard die. Strang thing is when i lower the voltage to standard or auto i get further in to windows and can do stuff for a while before it freezes
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Did you get a BSOD and what was the code........was it 00000x124 ? .... or 0x0A ?
Aussie Allan
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this is what uselly happens
1. Computer freezez in windows logg in process and keyboard/mouse die
2 windows loads and i get in to windows and it load all autostart program etc and keyboard/mouse dies
i writing this with out a mouse since its dead and dont work i got lights on them and they are dead to on it it dosent matter if i switch usb it still dont run
Edit moved the mouse to 3.0/2.0 usb port and now everything seams to work strangely enough now is the question for how long
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....1 Did you get a BSOD and what was the code........was it 00000x124 ? .... or 0x0A ?
....2 do you have a PS2 keyboard (old fashion one) and a old/different mouse .... I know it's frustrating but you need to answer the questions as well as letting me know whats happening
Aussie Allan
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dident get any BSOD at all yet
and now it seams to work but i dont now for how long and if it is stable :-[ :-[
going to leave te comp runing for a while and see what happens i dont dare to restart it now :P
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So one of use is recording settings....what changes have you made in the BIOS as in what is the machine running on at the moment that is not AUTO......Memory, QPI/VTT Volts ?
Aussie Allan
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i spoke to soon i guess Frooze in windows again :'( :'(
but i load me in to windows now with out any problem and to behonest i changed everything back to auto or load optimized settings everywere
but before i had only changed what i had in the screenshoots i posted
Strange i say!!!!!!!!!
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I can't help you if you can't answer the questions I ask ::)
Aussie Allan
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Sorry
i did'ent get any yet BSOD
and the only thing i changed so far is
QPI/VTT from 1.050 to 1.140
Dram voltage From 1.500 to 1.640
System memory multiplier to 13.33
and Performance enhance from Turbo to Standard
Rest is still on Auto
so thats what im running on now when i write this
and i have an Usb mouse and keyboard
Mouse = Edge 3200
Keyboard = Steelserie Merc Stealth
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You know the more I learn about the P67s.....there QPI/VTT is so low compared to say my board....they just don't seem to like Higher volt memory
Just an observation......see how you go with these setting.....if it still seem unstable......if you Get a BSOD, write down the code......just the string near the front .....like 0000000x? ? ...... if you miss it......drop the QPI/VTT and the Memory Volts down one notch and try again.....Remember to not exceed the .5V between the two.... good luck
Start looking for some quality 1.5V memory........Mushkin have some very good prices at the moment on 1600 dims and compatability is also very good.
Aussie Allan
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got blue screen now with code *** Stop 0xA0000001 so change litte around in bios so lets check :P
but according to the Default (normal) settings the rotation is .45 can that be right and you can only make changes with .2 etc step
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GOTCHA!...(I think)....ATI graphics driver
Did you apply this Radeon 11.5b hot fix or is this now out dated ....sorry if it is as I'm from the other side..... some people have had luck with this BSOD code and this patch
Spike 929 wrote: ....Ok People !! I have the answer. I found the lastest update from the AMD site, they have a patch to get rid of the blue screens and crashing for the 5 series Radeon Cards. So far so good, this patch which is an update to the CCC Version (b) automatically increases your idle clock speed.......no more blue screens !!! Very easy to do just double click and sit back.
Hope this helps someone, I spent alot of time trying to figure out why my new system was crashing.
Last edited by Spike929; 07-26-2011 at 01:04 AM.
And another on another site.......It's most likely the 6970, or the drivers for the 6970. A lot of folks have been having issues with ATi drivers.
Ive just been through about 15 Bug check codes......all the same as yours........if the patch doesn't work ..... uninstall the Catalyst and go back to the previous version if you can find it hopefully.
Aussie Allan
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i have the latest ati driver wich is 11.8 so sadly 11.5 is out of date im afraid so
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i use a driver update program that check for new drivers on for my computer everyday
hardcore gamer and hate lags
im rly starting to reconsider buying 2x4gb ram kit instead off trying to fight this couse it starting to get rly frustrated when computer work flawless with 6gb and not the with the last 2gb
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You and me both......consider what I said earlier about lower voltage memory.....somehow I just think it's the Adata.
Aussie Allan
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yeah atm buying new rams that are more compatible feels more like the right way to go cause this feel like its just going to give me and you some huge headache
thx for trying to help me atleast to bad we dident figure it out =(
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Maybe we did but you like me....hate to admit defeat........stay in touch ... you never know what tomorrow brings and would be handy to know if it was in fact the memory.
I have 2 triple memory kits I'm about to recycle through ebay that you may be interested in that lived in my system for only seven weeks...
Mushkin Silverline triple kit 3x4GB (998770) ... pretty handy memory...... but i was given some 1600 to try out that I decided to keep and sell the others.....PC3 10666 9.9.9.24 at 1.5v ... I actually had these two sets (24gb) running at 1.56v 8.9.8.20 at 1333.....with the tighter timing....just as fast as the new 1600 ... PM if you are interested .... anyway.....keep in touch at the least
Aussie Allan