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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: agros on October 26, 2011, 10:28:28 am
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There's a new (and last) phenom, Phenom II x4 960T Black Edition...
3GHz, cache 8MB, TDP 95W.
Can my mobo accept it? I m thinking about replace the 720 with this one, is it a good idea? :)
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Hi
Well first we would need to know the revision number of your motherboard.
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Its version 1.5
Are they mobos which can accept 720 but cannot accept 960T ?
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Here is the CPU listing for your motherboard so you can see for yourself what CPUs are supported. It would appear as if the 960T is not put on the list yet.
http://uk.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3621
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Well this cpu is new, so I guess its normal this board not incude it.
Whats the official answer from the Gibayte's site, anyway?
The second question is if 960T is (much)better than 720.
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It has already been on sale in America and has been for sale on Amazon(USA) even tho it is supposed to only be for OEM.
US price $125 plus tax
On sale in March and April this year, withdrawn from public sale.
No plans to release it.
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What are you talkιng about? There is already in my country, I ordered it and receive on Monday... (for 117€)
Βut I need to know if suits on my mobo, so can someone from this official Gigabyte's site inform me?
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According to the CPU support list the X4 960 Processor is supported. Check here: http://uk.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3621
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We already talked about this board a few posts ago. This is another cpu.
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yes I remember but if you look at the CPU Support list you will see the 960 is supported.
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plz... theres no 960T, only 960.
I m talking for a new cpu.
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If I can just cut in here agros this may be the official forum but nobody on here works for Gigabyte , we are just volunteers like yourself. I get the feeling you had the idea that we were Gigabyte employees. :-\
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Ok if u dont know just say "we dont know" but no lies about that board.
Do you see it now that theres no any 960T cpu in that list?
I hope there will be someone to help.
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I agree. There is no 960T on the list as the Thuban version isnt listed yet. It wil probably be added in the next few days I expect.
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Yes but you firstly said it was in that list. You didnt notice my first post--> Its a new(and last) phenom.
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Here is the CPU listing for your motherboard so you can see for yourself what CPUs are supported. It would appear as if the 960T is not put on the list yet.
http://uk.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3621
I think I made it quite clear that it is not on the list!
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Ok my mistake, it wasnt you, it was absic. But I answered to your post-->
Well this cpu is new, so I guess its normal this board not incude it.
Whats the official answer from the Gibayte's site, anyway?
The second question is if 960T is (much)better than 720.
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The second question is if 960T is (much)better than 720.
To be honest I really don't know but I would assume it is as it is a new updated supposedly optimised chip. There again we all know what happened to BullDozer don't we. :-\
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But it is 4 cores against 3, cache 8MB against 6MB, 3GHz against 2.80...Same TDP 95W.
And only 117€ :)
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I know the numbers but are you trying to convince me or yourself ? I would hope that it is better but only benchmarks will prove it and you are the man with the chip. ;)
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No ofcourse, I dont try to convince you. I just want take out the truth.
Is it ever possible 3 cores be better than 4? Or, could smaller cache be better?
So you say that my old x3 720 2.80GHz maybe is better than this 760T ???
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No ofcourse, I dont try to convince you. I just want take out the truth.
Is it ever possible 3 cores be better than 4? Or, could smaller cache be better?
So you say that my old x3 720 2.80GHz maybe is better than this 760T ???
No I wasn't suggesting that seriously just that you shouldn't make assumtions on face value. I am sure it is better but by how much is another story. You do the tests and let us know the results. I am sure there are plenty of people who would be interested.
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Yes I will but before that i need to know if it will suit with gama770t-ud3...
Can you communicate with gigabyte's people and ask them?
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I am afraid I have no more access to Gigabyte personell or data than you do. This was what I was trying to explain to you earlier. You can ask GGTS as that is what I would have to do.
Just enter your email address and click on the language of choice.
GGTS http://ggts.gigabyte.com/
Please expect several days for a reply.
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Yes I heard what you said earlier, but I hoped you could help.
You know, I wonder why this forum call itself "official gigabyte forum"... Whats the difference between official and unofficial then?
If I need several days to receive answer then its like you tell me cancel my order.
On the other hand, is possible an AM3 cpu doesnt fit on an AM3 motherborad??
Has ever happened before in any platform?
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Yes I heard what you said earlier, but I hoped you could help.
You know, I wonder why this forum call itself "official gigabyte forum"... Whats the difference between official and unofficial then?
If I need several days to receive answer then its like you tell me cancel my order.
On the other hand, is possible an AM3 cpu doesnt fit on an AM3 motherborad??
Has ever happened before in any platform?
I have made a system with a 770T-UD3 rev 1.5 for a friend 2 months ago.
He wanted a PII X4 980 BE as CPU.
After i asambled the system it would not boot.
Although in the supported CPU list the 980 BE is not present the board booted just fine after i ve flashed the BIOS to the latest version ,the only one available on the site.
Also in the past i was able to boot a K9A2 Platinum with a X3 720 ,with a BIOS intended for Phenom 1.
It s about luck ,but i think you have more than 65% chances to work.
So flash with the 720 BE to the latest BIOS and try your luck.
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Hi,
Why don't you do what has already been suggested by absic and DM and of course you can do what Vezina has suggested. But, if you contact Gigabyte Technical Support ,as has already been suggested, they will able to confirm what has already been said.
You could also contact the computer stores where you purchased your hardware with regards to your question about which is the best CPU the 720 or the 960T. Where are you going to buy the CPU from? Surely they will be able to give you some information about the CPU you have now and the one you intend to buy.....would they not agros?
Have a look on the CPU compatibility list provided by Gigabyte before you purchase and this will point you in the right direction and save you time and money. I remember you stating that you was thinking of buying a 1090T, if this is too expensive then choose another CPU from the Gigabyte CPU compatibility list for your motherboard. When you have chosen a CPU ask again at your local computer store/s and or research on the internet regarding its capability etc.
So, Agros.....contact Gigabyte Technical Support, if they say it's compatible...GREAT.....if they say no then choose another from the CPU compatibility list.
I hope this helps.
Teknology9
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I have made a system with a 770T-UD3 rev 1.5 for a friend 2 months ago.
He wanted a PII X4 980 BE as CPU.
After i asambled the system it would not boot.
Although in the supported CPU list the 980 BE is not present the board booted just fine after i ve flashed the BIOS to the latest version ,the only one available on the site.
Also in the past i was able to boot a K9A2 Platinum with a X3 720 ,with a BIOS intended for Phenom 1.
It s about luck ,but i think you have more than 65% chances to work.
So flash with the 720 BE to the latest BIOS and try your luck.
I have latest bios too(F10, with no cores unlock present)... I guess its normal for 980 to suit on this mobo, an AM3 cpu use to suit on an AM3 motherboard, right? Has ever happened something different, in any platform?
So, why only 65%? I think its 95% :)
Why don't you do what has already been suggested by absic and DM and of course you can do what Vezina has suggested. But, if you contact Gigabyte Technical Support ,as has already been suggested, they will able to confirm what has already been said.You could also contact the computer stores where you purchased your hardware with regards to your question about which is the best CPU the 720 or the 960T. Where are you going to buy the CPU from? Surely they will be able to give you some information about the CPU you have now and the one you intend to buy.....would they not agros?Have a look on the CPU compatibility list provided by Gigabyte before you purchase and this will point you in the right direction and save you time and money. I remember you stating that you was thinking of buying a 1090T, if this is too expensive then choose another CPU from the Gigabyte CPU compatibility list for your motherboard. When you have chosen a CPU ask again at your local computer store/s and or research on the internet regarding its capability etc.So, Agros.....contact Gigabyte Technical Support, if they say it's compatible...GREAT.....if they say no then choose another from the CPU compatibility list.
Absic didnt suggest me something. As I said, sending msg to gigabyte and wait several days for answer is like you tell me to cancel my order. Computer stores employees dont know more than us. I m not going for 1090 anymore because 1090 has 125W(you see my psu? only 450W) and I think its better to buy 4 cores in this new 960T.
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I have made a system with a 770T-UD3 rev 1.5 for a friend 2 months ago.
He wanted a PII X4 980 BE as CPU.
After i asambled the system it would not boot.
Although in the supported CPU list the 980 BE is not present the board booted just fine after i ve flashed the BIOS to the latest version ,the only one available on the site.
Also in the past i was able to boot a K9A2 Platinum with a X3 720 ,with a BIOS intended for Phenom 1.
It s about luck ,but i think you have more than 65% chances to work.
So flash with the 720 BE to the latest BIOS and try your luck.
I have latest bios too(F10, with no cores unlock present)... I guess its normal for 980 to suit on this mobo, an AM3 cpu use to suit on an AM3 motherboard, right? Has ever happened something different, in any platform?
So, why only 65%? I think its 95% :)
I said more than 65 % :)
I would get a 975/980 BE instead of that CPU as the unlocking to 6 core is based on luck,either due to the motherboard or due ti the CPU.
If you really want a six core get one from the supported list.
If a X 4 suffice for what you are doing get one of the ones i proposed as they are good performers and they work with that mobo.
An AM3 CPU will work in a AM3 mobo of course ,but proper BIOS is needed as well as proper hardware TDP support.
Ask Gigabyte for a custom BIOS if needed ,they should be able to do it for you in case it is needed.
Anyway buy the CPU and if it doesnt work return it to the store ,as this should be allowed having in mind you live in a UE country.
Edit: If that PSU is 450 real Watt it will work even with a 125 W TDP CPU .TDP specified is only a theoretical limit ,the CPU -s having usually lower TDP -s in usage than the one specified and thus sucking less power.Easy Saver software from Gigabyte shows the power consumption of the CPU in real time if you need to check out.
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As I said, sending msg to gigabyte and wait several days for answer is like you tell me to cancel my order.
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No it is not, that is how long it takes for them to reply. If you have ordered a CPU without looking on the compatibility list......then good luck.
absic, if you read the comment, has told you to look on the CPU Support List.
Why haven't you asked the store/s where you order from first?
But anyway.......good luck.....and happy PC building
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Seems, boys, you dont like read my posts... For one more time I have to repeat my myself :(
I would get a 975/980 BE instead of that CPU as the unlocking to 6 core is based on luck,either due to the motherboard or due ti the CPU.If you really want a six core get one from the supported list.
If a X 4 suffice for what you are doing get one of the ones i proposed as they are good performers and they work with that mobo.
An AM3 CPU will work in a AM3 mobo of course ,but proper BIOS is needed as well as proper hardware TDP support.
Ask Gigabyte for a custom BIOS if needed ,they should be able to do it for you in case it is needed.
Anyway buy the CPU and if it doesnt work return it to the store ,as this should be allowed having in mind you live in a UE country.
Edit: If that PSU is 450 real Watt it will work even with a 125 W TDP CPU .TDP specified is only a theoretical limit ,the CPU -s having usually lower TDP -s in usage than the one specified and thus sucking less power.Easy Saver software from Gigabyte shows the power consumption of the CPU in real time if you need to check out.
I dont want 6 cores anymore, I m not gonna unlock 960T. I prefer 960T because its only 95W. And theres no any other x4 with 95W, plus that 960T is new, cheap, 8MB. Ask gigabyte where? Isnt this the official gigabyte's forum? How is official if noone can help in this simple matter? Has ever happened a same socket with unfitted cpu/mobo? And about psu, ofcouse can accept 125W but I also need low temps, u see theres no any fan in my system, its fully noiseless ;)
No it is not, that is how long it takes for them to reply. If you have ordered a CPU without looking on the compatibility list......then good luck.absic, if you read the comment, has told you to look on the CPU Support List.Why haven't you asked the store/s where you order from first?
Yes, until they reply me I wil receive my mobo. I guess Its normal this mobo not to exist in that board because its new. But you suggest me cancel order? Do you really believe that the store knows more than us? ::)
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The best choice for you is a Phenom 2 X4 965 BE.
As you say you are needing a 95 W TDP ,get the one with 95 W TDP as there are 2 types of 965 on the market ( 95W and 125W versions).
One more thing ,a 720 BE overclocked or/and unlocked like you use is no more inside what you call a 95 W TDP envelope.
And try to get rid of the bossy attitude ,it will leave your thread without any reply.
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"I prefer 960T because its only 95W"
HOW many times does it take to tell you there is NO 960T!
It was supposed to never be released to gen public, it was always only going to be OEM.
Then they let a few out to the public and then scrapped it..............
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Musicman53:
Actually you can get hold of these processors. In the UK there are several suppliers with stock of them:
http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/11046734/art/amd/phenom-ii-x4-960t-3-ghz-6.html?Partenaire=partner&CodePromo=oui&srcid=867&key=aEYPBDUcaGRUXlIkckQCVH5LRnNYQiIUZ20UMAU0ET58dUN1GRRSWSNRAjByJQo/QHcpLg==
http://www.edock.tv/amd-phenom-ii-x4-960t-3-ghz-6-mb-l3-cache-am3-socket-black-edition-hd96ztwfgrbox.html
http://www.tomsondirect.co.uk/index.php/amd-phenom-ii-x4-960t-3-ghz-6-mb-l3-cache-am3-socket-black-edition-hd96ztwfgrbox.html
agros:
I do understand your frustration at not getting clear answers but although this is an Official Gigabyte Forum as it is hosted, maintained and monitored by them, it is basically overseen by only one person from Gigabyte. The rest of us here are user's, like yourself, who are trying to help. Even though I am a moderator, I do not have any more access to Gigabyte's resources than you do. If I have a question I have to go through the same steps as other user's and wait for replies.
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The best choice for you is a Phenom 2 X4 965 BE.
As you say you are needing a 95 W TDP ,get the one with 95 W TDP as there are 2 types of 965 on the market ( 95W and 125W versions).
One more thing ,a 720 BE overclocked or/and unlocked like you use is no more inside what you call a 95 W TDP envelope.
And try to get rid of the bossy attitude ,it will leave your thread without any reply.
In my country there is no any 965 with 95W.
I havent unlocked 720.
I m not the one who call "TDP 95W", its an international term. If I o/c from 2.8ghz to 3.1 how much more is?... Do you know about "cool and quiet"? You remain at 1.1V if cpu doesnt do something serious.
What bossy attitude? I never had such and I dont want receive either. When people avoid my posts and force me to repeat again and again, if I blame those people do I have a bossy attitude? Just read the next quote...
"I prefer 960T because its only 95W"
HOW many times does it take to tell you there is NO 960T!
It was supposed to never be released to gen public, it was always only going to be OEM.
Then they let a few out to the public and then scrapped it..............
I explained you that there is already in my country, I ordered it for 117€.
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Keep us informed about how your ordered CPU will behave installed on the board.
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Well, things now look like strange ???
The store I had ordered from told me that they wont receive it, so order was cancelled.
I talked to another store, they told me on Friday, exept if something change.
I also talked with another 3 stores, one told me next week and the other two told me after 15 or 20 days.
And I was ready to sell 720...
Meanwhile my friend vezina, I see that we have same cpu, same ram, almost same mobo and almost same soundcard(I have X-Fi Extreme Audio pci_xpress) :)
You also have PII 975, maybe I buy that(or 980), is it good? How much wei? How much temp?
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Meanwhile my friend vezina, I see that we have same cpu, same ram, almost same mobo and almost same soundcard(I have X-Fi Extreme Audio pci_xpress) :)
You also have PII 975, maybe I buy that(or 980), is it good? How much wei? How much temp?
The X4 975 CPU has a 7,4 score in W 7.
Both 975 and 980 are quite warm CPU-s.
With the X4 975 BE ,which is used on the 890 GX board ,i have 40-62 Celsius with room temp 25-28 Celsius.
As you can see i am using a Corsair H 60 water cooler ,with a push - pull fan configuration ,exhausting air from inside to outside (opposed to what Corsair recommends).I m using Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120 in my case (very low noise fans) ,2 for the water cooler ,1 for front intake ,1 for the upside of the case ,all of them tweaked for lowest noise RPM wise.
For my neighbour/friend i ve used the X 4 980 with a Cooler Master TX 3 ,but it often hits 65 Celsius with only one fan on it which is a little over 62 the CPU max recommended.
I ve avoided in both builds the delivered coolers as the fans are quite annoying at high RPM-s.
For you i would say that a PII X4 965 95W TDP version would be as nice as the 960 T ,if you find it available ,as if you haven t unlocked that 720 BE you will notice improvements performance wise from the fourth core.
If you happen to have a relative in Romania ,which may be quite possible :) ,you should take the chance and buy the CPU from one of our IT on-line shops somehow.
They also have the CPU you want available here -> hxxp://www.pcgarage.ro/procesoare/amd/phenom-ii-x4-960t-black-edition-30ghz-box/
It s like 115 Euros as price.
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Ok, 960T is now in my hands! :)
Suddenly a store said its available and cpu came to me the next morning.
The X3 720 has wei 6.8 and if I o/c to 3.6GHz goes to 7.0
I dont know if vga affects wei, my vga is average.
Between Greece and Romania is Bulgaria. But why did you think I may have a relative there?
Now tell me which tests do you want me to do. Should be something that doesnt affect from vga, as pcmark05 does.
Two more question about 960T's cache, I thought it was 8MB but here-->
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Phenom%20II%20X4%20960T%20Black%20Edition%20-%20HD96ZTWFK4DGR.html
says 6MB. And whats that "turbo frequency 3,4" ?
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The graphics (VGA) forms part of the testing for the Windows Experience Index and so if you have a brilliant machine but a crappy grapohics card then the score will be low as it is all reliant on the lowest score.
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Hi Agros,
There is a total Cache of 8Mb on the CPU but it is made up by adding the L1, L2 and L3 caches together.
The trubo Core Speed is the speed the CPU will reach when it is under full load using automatic settings. It reaches this by shutting down cores and boosting the frequency of the others as the workload on the CPU demands. If you plan on O/C'ing the processor this feature becomes redundant as you really need to disable Turbo Core to get the most from the CPU.
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The graphics (VGA) forms part of the testing for the Windows Experience Index and so if you have a brilliant machine but a crappy grapohics card then the score will be low as it is all reliant on the lowest score.
Of course I know that the wei base score depens on the lower score (thats 6.8 for my vga, I also have 7.5 ram and 7.8 hd), but we were talking about cpu score only.
The question is--> A cpu with 5450 and the same cpu with 6990 will have the same wei score?
There is a total Cache of 8Mb on the CPU but it is made up by adding the L1, L2 and L3 caches together.
So the cache difference between 960T / 720 is just 578kb?
The trubo Core Speed is the speed the CPU will reach when it is under full load using automatic settings. It reaches this by shutting down cores and boosting the frequency of the others as the workload on the CPU demands. If you plan on O/C'ing the processor this feature becomes redundant as you really need to disable Turbo Core to get the most from the CPU.
If I use less than 4 cores, then I ll have an auto boost from 3 to 3.4GHz, right?
Then I guess I ll have 3.4 almost all the time since usually I dont use programs which require 4 cores.
I was planing to o/c 960T as much as it takes for default volts. But whats best, do this or just use the turbo boost?
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So the cache difference between 960T / 720 is just 578kb?
Yes. The X3 720 and the X4 960T are basically the same processor. The difference is that the 720 had one of the cores disabled because it failed the Quality Control tests during production. This will also disable the L1 and L2 cache on the 720 hence the slight difference in total.
If I use less than 4 cores, then I ll have an auto boost from 3 to 3.4GHz, right?
This is done automatically with default settings and the user has no control over this but the answer is no. The CPU will throttle up and down as the system requires. If you are not using the PC much it might drop the CPU speed down to 800MHz then, when you start stressing the CPU by playing a game for example, the the speed will ramp up and will peak at 3.6GHz but this may be achieved by two of the cores having their speed dropped. It's a bit more complicated than that but I hope you can understand the basic idea.
I was planing to o/c 960T as much as it takes for default volts. But whats best, do this or just use the turbo boost?
Only you can decide what is best for your needs but, as another example, I have a 1090T which has a base speed of 3.2GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz. I have disabled the Turbo Core feature and have my processor running at 3.8GHz across all 6 cores at 1.425V with CPU temps around 30C with a Noctua NH-D14 cooler and ambient room temps about 20C. This suits my needs and the processor will run at higher speeds if I wish to O/C it further, but I settled on this as the best compromise between core speed and the heat being produced by the processor.
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Yes. The X3 720 and the X4 960T are basically the same processor. The difference is that the 720 had one of the cores disabled because it failed the Quality Control tests during production. This will also disable the L1 and L2 cache on the 720 hence the slight difference in total.
In the same way, 960T is an X6 cpu with 2 cores disabled because they failed the Quality Control tests?...
If the 4th core of 720 was failed then how some users unlocked it? I think that they disable cores in order to make many and different models and prices.
You also tell me that L1 & L2 caches of 720 are disabled?
This is done automatically with default settings and the user has no control over this but the answer is no. The CPU will throttle up and down as the system requires. If you are not using the PC much it might drop the CPU speed down to 800MHz then, when you start stressing the CPU by playing a game for example, the the speed will ramp up and will peak at 3.6GHz but this may be achieved by two of the cores having their speed dropped. It's a bit more complicated than that but I hope you can understand the basic idea.
Not much clear, I m afraid. You described the cool & quiet function but with a top 3,4GHz instead of 3.
That "no" you said answers to what exactly?
Only you can decide what is best for your needs but, as another example, I have a 1090T which has a base speed of 3.2GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz. I have disabled the Turbo Core feature and have my processor running at 3.8GHz across all 6 cores at 1.425V with CPU temps around 30C with a Noctua NH-D14 cooler and ambient room temps about 20C. This suits my needs and the processor will run at higher speeds if I wish to O/C it further, but I settled on this as the best compromise between core speed and the heat being produced by the processor.
And why do you have 6 cores x 3.8GHz at 1.42V all the time?
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An X3 CPU is basically an X4 with one part of the processor disabled, which is why some can be unlocked. Why the cores are disabled is more often due to a core failure during production and testing although in the early days, some were locked off for marketing purposes. Disabling the Core also disables the L1 & L2 Cache of that core. If you want to understand this more in more detail it would be better to check out Wikipedia or AMD's website.
Cool 'n' Quiet and Turbo Core are features of the processors Where Cool 'n' Quiet throttles the processor down, Turbo Core boosts the frequency of the CPU when it is being used. How the Turbo Core works is dependant on the type of work the processor is doing.
I was saying no to your interpretation of what happens with Turbo Core, as the increase in CPU Core speed is often accompanied by some of the cores being throttled back, so not all 4 cores are running at the Turbo speed. You could find that only one or two cores are running at the higher speed but once again, this is not always the case and sometimes all 4 cores will be running at the higher speed.
The reason I have my CPU running at 3.8GHz with the Voltage at 1.425 is because, on my system, it is stable. I am running the GA-990FXA-UD5 motherboard and CPU voltage is handled differently to that on the AM3 motherboards.. When the CPU is put under load the CPU Voltage is pulled down (Vdrop) and setting the voltage at this level allows for the voltage drop when under load which means, when my processor is working at 100% the voltage drops down to about 1.36V to protect the CPU. If I bring the starting Voltage any lower than 1.425V then the system will fall over and BSOD because of the lack of power to the CPU when it is under load.
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An X3 CPU is basically an X4 with one part of the processor disabled, which is why some can be unlocked. Why the cores are disabled is more often due to a core failure during production and testing although in the early days, some were locked off for marketing purposes.
I guess that they r all for "marketing purposes". How else hey would had models with 2, 3, 4, 6 cores? (maybe we ll soon have X6 models=a X8 cpu with 2 locked cores). Or the models that cant be unlocked means that they was from some "failure"?
Cool 'n' Quiet and Turbo Core are features of the processors Where Cool 'n' Quiet throttles the processor down, Turbo Core boosts the frequency of the CPU when it is being used. How the Turbo Core works is dependant on the type of work the processor is doing.
I was saying no to your interpretation of what happens with Turbo Core, as the increase in CPU Core speed is often accompanied by some of the cores being throttled back, so not all 4 cores are running at the Turbo speed. You could find that only one or two cores are running at the higher speed but once again, this is not always the case and sometimes all 4 cores will be running at the higher speed.
I didnt say that all 4 cores run at the turbo speed. I said "If I use less than 4 cores, then I ll have an auto boost(for the used cores) from 3 to 3.4GHz, right?" Is this correct?
The reason I have my CPU running at 3.8GHz with the Voltage at 1.425 is because, on my system, it is stable..
Yes I understood that its stable but the question is, why to have it in this condition when u r idle(I guess u r idle the most of the time). I can also make 720 to be stable at 3.6GHz but I only do that when theres a reason.
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Yes I understood that its stable but the question is, why to have it in this condition when u r idle(I guess u r idle the most of the time). I can also make 720 to be stable at 3.6GHz but I only do that when theres a reason.
When I do any overclocking I disable all of the CPU's energy saving features as these can lead to problems in getting the CPU to work properly at the higher speed. My PC tends to get a fair amount of use during the day with things like video or audio rendering running in the background while I do something in Photoshop or other programmes.
I didnt say that all 4 cores run at the turbo speed. I said "If I use less than 4 cores, then I ll have an auto boost(for the used cores) from 3 to 3.4GHz, right?" Is this correct?
I think we are talking at cross purposes here. If you install the CPU and leave everything at their default settings in BIOS the CPU will throttle down when idle and when under load the Turbo Core will kick in and give you the extra speed as needed. It does this by boosting the power to the cores. Sometimes all 4 cores will receive the boost but, often only a couple of the cores are boosted and the others are dropped back however when this happens the user doesn't usually notice it unless they are using monitoring software.
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Ok, seems its better to leave this turbo boost since it will automatically boost whenever needs. Maybe we ll talk about this again later
meanwhile,
I m about to install my new 960T, but before I remove 720 and the heavy heatsink I d like to make some benches so that I ll do them again with the new cpu and so I ll check how much better is the new comparing to old. Which programs do u suggest me to use? I have wei and pcmark05, what else could I use?
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hello,
u can use 3dmark 06 and vintage or cpumark to bench it :)
u can test unlocking and overclocking
i'm looking for this cpu too
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I already use 3dmark06 but this is for vga(I have about 12000 points for 720 2.80GHz+9800green).
You suggest me to use the programs "vintage" and "cpumark" ? Shall I find them via google?
Lets dont mess with unlock/overclock by this time.
What wei score(cpu score) do u have with athlon x3 425?
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yes u can find on google :)
i get 374 on cpumark didnt try vintage yet
u can also try cinebench r11 or 3ds max 2011 :)
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I installed 960T 3.0GHz, here are some benches
wei............ 7,3 (720 2.80GHz had 6.8 )
cpu2.2........ 39.58 (720 had 47,82 - less is better)
pcmark05.... cpu score 9861
memory score 6416
graphics score 12476
3dmark06.... general 12314
sm2.0 5713
hdr/sm3.0 4912
CPU score 4356
Theres a voltge query, with 720 I had 1.1-1.3V, now I see 1.3-1.5.... suppose 960T works also at 1.0V, why doesnt go <1.3?
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sorry cant help with voltage
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What are the voltages and the numbers of your athlon?
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I found out why voltage is high, the default is higher than 720's (1.45V or so, cant remember exactly, I m in another pc now)
I have another good question :), I increased the clock frequency from 3.0 to 3.4GHz and was stable.
When this works, the turbo boost 3,4GHz is auto disabled?
What is better to choose, o/c 3.4 or turbo boost?
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i think when u oc turbo will not be 3.5ghz maybe more
max voltage is 1.5 if i remember well :)