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Title: Additional fan help
Post by: DerAltesTroops on January 16, 2012, 07:29:27 pm
Hello everyone. I am building my first computer tomorrow. I use the "Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3" motherboard and a "Cooler Master Silencio 550" and i was wondering is it possible to connect an additional 120 mm fan to my motherboard? And if so where can i see it? because i can't seem to find anything about it anywhere. Hope to hear from you soon

- John
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Dark Mantis on January 16, 2012, 08:03:22 pm
Hi and welcome.


You most certainly can add an extra fan or two with no problems. There are several headers on the motherboard marked SYS_FAN or PWR_FAN that are designed for just that eventuality. You could of course use a molex connector straight from the PSU if you would prefer.

They are all marked in the manual.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: DerAltesTroops on January 16, 2012, 08:14:33 pm
Thanks! What is the difference between the "SYS_FAN" and the "PWR_FAN"? And what is a molex connector?
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Gloup_Gloup on January 16, 2012, 08:18:03 pm
Hi DerAltesTroops, ;)

The difference is a number of pin ...

See picture ...

EDIT01 :
You ask : And what is a molex connector? See below...
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6962/yhst1562312198639519851wc4.jpg
http://www.techenclave.com/topic/474260-how-to-use-the-coolermaster-blademaster-fans/page__p__1212762#entry1212762

The best  here : http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00095527.html
Gloup_Gloup
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: DerAltesTroops on January 16, 2012, 09:08:51 pm
Radical! Now would it even be necessary to install a third fan into a computer with these specs?

Mobo: "Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3"
CPU: "Intel i5 2500K" (With stock cooler)
GPU: "Inno3D Geforce GTX 560"
RAM: "Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B"
SSD: "Vertex 3 120 GB SSD"
HDD: "Samsung Spinpoint 1TB F3"
PSU: "Cooler Master 750W bronze"
Case: "Cooler Master Silencio 550"
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Gloup_Gloup on January 16, 2012, 10:01:59 pm
Hi DerAltesTroops,  ;)

Gives us more infos about temp, with this soft:
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor-pro.html
AND
Check a temp and Voltage with SensorsView
http://www.stvsoft.com/

With this two soft , you have a posibility to double check a situation...

Do not installed Easy Tune from Gigabyte.

Gloup_Gloup
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Dark Mantis on January 17, 2012, 06:27:19 am
Radical! Now would it even be necessary to install a third fan into a computer with these specs?

Personally I would add a couple of extra fans but more for the fact that I could have them all turned down in speed but still shift a fair amount of air. That way you will keep cool temperatures whilst managing low noise levels.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: DerAltesTroops on January 17, 2012, 08:27:12 am
Hi DerAltesTroops,  ;)

Gives us more infos about temp, with this soft:
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor-pro.html
AND
Check a temp and Voltage with SensorsView
http://www.stvsoft.com/

With this two soft , you have a posibility to double check a situation...

Do not installed Easy Tune from Gigabyte.

Gloup_Gloup

Ok i'll be putting the computer together either today or tomorrow and i will let you know as soon as i find out ;) Also why not easytune?

Radical! Now would it even be necessary to install a third fan into a computer with these specs?

Personally I would add a couple of extra fans but more for the fact that I could have them all turned down in speed but still shift a fair amount of air. That way you will keep cool temperatures whilst managing low noise levels.

My fan only supports one extra fan (I was really pushing my budget to the limit). And also what software do you recommend for controlling fan speeds?

You've both been a great help so far!   :)
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Dark Mantis on January 17, 2012, 08:51:52 am
You don't need any software as such, you can use the settings in the BIOS. The other option is to get a cheap fan controller and use that to manually set up your fan speed individually.

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My fan only supports one extra fan (I was really pushing my budget to the limit).

I take it that you meant to say that your case only supports one extra fan ?
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: DerAltesTroops on January 17, 2012, 08:57:06 am
You don't need any software as such, you can use the settings in the BIOS. The other option is to get a cheap fan controller and use that to manually set up your fan speed individually.

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My fan only supports one extra fan (I was really pushing my budget to the limit).

I take it that you meant to say that your case only supports one extra fan ?

Woops  ;D Yeah thats what i meant.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Gloup_Gloup on January 17, 2012, 01:38:47 pm

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Also why not easytune?

Because Easy Tune cause sometime a problem, a trouble..
so other software are the best.

Gloup_Gloup
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Dark Mantis on January 18, 2012, 08:59:33 pm
Yes I to would agree with Gloup_Gloup regarding the bundled software. Better to steer clear of it in general.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Rolo42 on January 19, 2012, 04:09:07 am
I used EasyTune to change settings on the UD3H and the UD4 to find stable overclocks; it was handy to not have to reboot.

However, I used CPUID HW Monitor and CPU-Z for monitoring.

The other bundled software is garbage and caused me problems.

These are why I perform a test install (without activation) and then perform the real install.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: DerAltesTroops on January 22, 2012, 01:28:11 pm
Ok guys so i am currently assembling the PC, but i've run into a problem. There is an SS usb cable and i don't know where to connect it since my motherboard doesn't have an intern usb port. Do i have to buy an adaptor?
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: dikal on January 22, 2012, 01:49:36 pm
There is a USB 3.0 internal connector (marked as F_USB30), next to front panel connector.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Dark Mantis on January 22, 2012, 01:54:46 pm
A lot of cases have a USB3.0  cable to the front panel but only a standard USB3.0 male connector to make the connection and so you have to take the cable out of the rear and plug it into a USB3.0 port on the back panel. This is something I am always moaning to manufacturers about when I do reviews. The majority of motherboards now have an internal USB3.0 header.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: DerAltesTroops on January 22, 2012, 01:56:57 pm
Ok so i have to plug the cable into the back of the computer?
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Dark Mantis on January 22, 2012, 01:59:37 pm
Yes if the case wiring has the normal type of USB3.0 plug to connect the front panel. Trouble is this way apart from being messy it uses one of your USB3.0 ports.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: DerAltesTroops on January 22, 2012, 02:11:54 pm
Ok thanks. I have one question more. My graphics card has two 6 pin connectors. Should i insert plugs into one or two of them?

http://i42.tinypic.com/2dbjgcw.jpg

Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Dark Mantis on January 22, 2012, 02:43:05 pm
No you need to fill all the sockets where there are ones for power. So you reqire two six pin connectors to be inserted.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: DerAltesTroops on January 22, 2012, 03:09:33 pm
Well it works! I am currently installing windows 7
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Dark Mantis on January 22, 2012, 03:53:29 pm
Great stuff. Hopefully you will be alright now then. ;)
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Gloup_Gloup on January 22, 2012, 05:30:11 pm
Hi DerAltesTroops and Dark Mantis,  ;)

I'm glad to read that the situation is improving ....

Gloup_Gloup
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: DerAltesTroops on January 22, 2012, 07:08:41 pm
Hello. Now i've played some games. After 20 minutes of Just Cause 2 (Max settings) the GPU rises to 75 degrees celcius. Is this normal? And also what is the max temperature before i should start worrying? And when it is idle it's at 45 degrees celcius

UPDATE:

After continuing playing it consistently stays around 77 degrees celcius
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Rolo42 on January 22, 2012, 07:20:08 pm
75 is typical; max is 100; be concerned above 90.  Case cooling helps GPU cooling.

I'd be more concerned about the stock Intel CPU cooler--if you have a K model CPU anyway.   ;)
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: DerAltesTroops on January 22, 2012, 07:38:29 pm
Well great my average GPU temp goes to 72 with a max of 81 and then it drops to around 68  ;) What is a normal CPU temp?
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Dark Mantis on January 22, 2012, 08:07:27 pm
Your temperatures sound fine to me and can differ between setups. A lot can depend on the case and cooling systems involved. I run a water cooling setup and I can max my rig out and still have the temp below 50C. Don't worry about it yours is fine.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: DerAltesTroops on January 22, 2012, 08:08:10 pm
Your temperatures sound fine to me and can differ between setups. A lot can depend on the case and cooling systems involved. I run a water cooling setup and I can max my rig out and still have the temp below 50C. Don't worry about it yours is fine.

You dont know how happy i am to hear that!    :D
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Dark Mantis on January 22, 2012, 08:09:08 pm
Just play some games and have fun now that it is all working!  ;)
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Rolo42 on January 23, 2012, 01:52:01 am
TJmax for the 2500K is 90C.

With the stock cooler, running all four cores at full load will hit TJmax within minutes, wherein the CPU will down-clock until the heat dissipates/core temp drops, which, in a few more minutes will never happen and it will be stuck running slower.  If you have CPU-intensive apps, keep a temperature logging program running to see if its enough.

I max at 66C @ 4.2GHz with the Zalman 9900 and it looks spiffy, http://www.zalman.com/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=416

Just about any aftermarket HSF is better than stock.

Your GPU temps are fine (what GPU anyway?); my Gigabyte GTX580@850MHz stays in the lower 70's at full load (Skyrim as of late); the three fans on it with the case cooling helps that.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Dark Mantis on January 23, 2012, 08:36:31 am
If you want to stay on air cooling then the Noctua NH-D14 is the ultimate in temperature reduction. It is a big beast but it does the job admirably. ;)
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: dikal on January 23, 2012, 04:11:50 pm
TJmax for the 2500K is 90C.

I know that my question is off topic  :-[, but where did you find that TJmax my friend? Do you have one for the 2400 as well ?  ;D
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Rolo42 on January 23, 2012, 06:19:12 pm
Intel data sheets.  They are a must read for overclocking.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Gloup_Gloup on January 24, 2012, 07:53:54 am
 Hi all,

I find a infos on Intel ....

http://ark.intel.com/products/52209/Intel-Core-i5-2500-Processor-%286M-Cache-3_30-GHz%29
Max TDP 95 W
TCASE 72.6°C

TJmax for the 2500K is 90C.
...

Hi Rolo42,   ;)

Have you more infos about this fact...
maybe a source of datasheet... with Intel web link ....  ;) for i5-2500 and i5-2400 please...  ;)

Because dikal have a little or big problem with Max Tjunction temperatures ...
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,8059.0.html

Gloup_Gloup
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Rolo42 on January 24, 2012, 08:25:23 am
Its on that page you linked; however, it's changed since I read it last: chapter 5 seems to have been deleted and replaced with a reference to the design guide.  There is one chart that "assumes TJmax of 99C".

Tcase is the slug's max temp; anything higher and heat won't get pulled from the chip itself fast enough and its temp will rise beyond TJmax.

IIRC, the i5 down-clocked at 90C when stress-testing with the POS Intel cooler.
Title: Re: Additional fan help
Post by: Gloup_Gloup on January 24, 2012, 08:50:46 am
Hi all,  ;)

I find this:

2nd Generation Intel® Core™
Processor Family Desktop and Intel®
Pentium® Processor Family Desktop,
and LGA1155 Socket

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/guide/2nd-gen-core-lga1155-socket-guide.pdf

Gloup_Gloup