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Title: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 19, 2012, 11:39:26 am
Hello I got a GA-870A-USB3 in November of 2011 and used a AMD Athlon 620 4X CPU with it. After checking my board CPU compatibility on Gigabyte website I was told that the FX-6100 with work with the board with an updated F5d BIOS which I already updated since I got the board.

I got the FX-6100 and not when I turn on the PC the CPU fan spins really slow, and I get not beeps, no screen. Why is that happening?

Specs:

ASUS EAH5670 Vedio Card
FX-6100 CPU
KomputerBay 2x4GB DDR3 1333
Gigabyte GA-870A-USB3 Rev. 3.1
Antec EarthWatts EA-500D 500W
1TB Hitachi Hard Drive
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: autotech on May 19, 2012, 02:55:17 pm
Welcome to the gigabyte forums. First off id borrow a different psu and try it with that see if power is the problem.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 19, 2012, 04:26:54 pm
Welcome to the gigabyte forums. First off id borrow a different psu and try it with that see if power is the problem.

Why do you think is the PSU, I also have a problem sometimes before with my current CPU where my PC would keep restarting, beeps once and then restart, i would have to clear the BIOS for hrs before the problem stops, but it has happened to me serveral time, that is why I got another CPU thinking is my old Athlon that is the prob.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: Vezina on May 19, 2012, 07:50:14 pm
Welcome to the gigabyte forums. First off id borrow a different psu and try it with that see if power is the problem.

Why do you think is the PSU, I also have a problem sometimes before with my current CPU where my PC would keep restarting, beeps once and then restart, i would have to clear the BIOS for hrs before the problem stops, but it has happened to me serveral time, that is why I got another CPU thinking is my old Athlon that is the prob.

This is something you have not told in the first post.

Does the Athlon work if you swap it in ?
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 19, 2012, 07:58:43 pm
I bought a new 880W PSU and still it does the same thing, the fan would only shift every 5 sec or so, like it wants to spin but then stop, and if i spin it myself, i would just stay spinning very slow.

This is the info from CPU-Z but it says Rev. 00 and not 3.1 although my motherboard has 3.1 printed on it.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2375297

PS another thing I probably did not say in my first message is that when I first put it the CPU it works went into BIOS everything was ok, I only changed the turbo boost from 3.9Ghz to 4Ghz, and restarted, but when window was loading with the logo screen, it just stayed there, and nothing was happing, so I press the reset button, and changed the Turbo Boost back to 3.9Ghz. and restarted and I thing that is when nothing was happening. the CPU was not spinning and there was no beeps.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 19, 2012, 08:01:11 pm
Welcome to the gigabyte forums. First off id borrow a different psu and try it with that see if power is the problem.

Why do you think is the PSU, I also have a problem sometimes before with my current CPU where my PC would keep restarting, beeps once and then restart, i would have to clear the BIOS for hrs before the problem stops, but it has happened to me serveral time, that is why I got another CPU thinking is my old Athlon that is the prob.

This is something you have not told in the first post.

Does the Athlon work if you swap it in ?

I am using the Athlon now to send messages in this forum. So yes the athlon is working.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: Vezina on May 19, 2012, 09:16:10 pm

PS another thing I probably did not say in my first message is that when I first put it the CPU it works went into BIOS everything was ok, I only changed the turbo boost from 3.9Ghz to 4Ghz, and restarted, but when window was loading with the logo screen, it just stayed there, and nothing was happing, so I press the reset button, and changed the Turbo Boost back to 3.9Ghz. and restarted and I thing that is when nothing was happening. the CPU was not spinning and there was no beeps.


It s good you ve told this too.

Please enter BIOS and press F9 for system info .look at the BIOS versions and tell us both.

Have you cleared CMOS after the problem or you ve just put the Athlon instead ?
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 19, 2012, 11:05:27 pm
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It s good you ve told this too.

Please enter BIOS and press F9 for system info .look at the BIOS versions and tell us both.

Have you cleared CMOS after the problem or you ve just put the Athlon instead ?


Yes after the problem with the fx6100 i cleared the BIOS before I put in the Athlon.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 19, 2012, 11:24:27 pm

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Please enter BIOS and press F9 for system info .look at the BIOS versions and tell us both.

BIOS Version: Main F5d Backup F4

Is that the reason why my fx6100 is not working, it is cause my Backup BIOS is not the same as my Main?

Someone said something about synchronizing the BIOS, how do I do that?
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: autotech on May 20, 2012, 03:22:27 am
Thats easy to do but not your problem, to  put main bios on the back up.

From a cold start with the power to the machine switched off press the power button and then enter the BIOS by pressing Del. Then when you get to the main screen press F9. This will bring up an
 extra screen which will display more information about the two BIOS versions. Assuming they are different exit the BIOS and shutdown.
 Again press the power button and this time press Alt + F12 where you would normally use the Del key to enter the BIOS. You will fiond that then your monitor will turn black and you will see:

Press [Enter] to start copying main BIOS to backup BIOS...

When you press Enter more text will appear saying:

Writing BIOS image.... xxxKb OK

Once completed  more text will show:

BIOS successfully recovered! Power off or reset system!

Do as it says. Both Main and Backup BIOS chips now store the same BIOS version. You can now reboot as normal.




Best advice is to start the PC from cold (not a reboot) and, if possible, use a PS/2 keyboard. When the Alt+ F12 is registered you will get a message on screen about copying the main BIOS
 to the Backup chip. DO NOT turn tURN PC off whilst this process takes place. Once the copying has been completed you can restart as usual.
One beep is a memory code
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 20, 2012, 11:45:25 am
Thats easy to do but not your problem, to  put main bios on the back up.

From a cold start with the power to the machine switched off press the power button and then enter the BIOS by pressing Del. Then when you get to the main screen press F9. This will bring up an
 extra screen which will display more information about the two BIOS versions. Assuming they are different exit the BIOS and shutdown.
 Again press the power button and this time press Alt + F12 where you would normally use the Del key to enter the BIOS. You will fiond that then your monitor will turn black and you will see:

Press [Enter] to start copying main BIOS to backup BIOS...

When you press Enter more text will appear saying:

Writing BIOS image.... xxxKb OK

Once completed  more text will show:

BIOS successfully recovered! Power off or reset system!

Do as it says. Both Main and Backup BIOS chips now store the same BIOS version. You can now reboot as normal.




Best advice is to start the PC from cold (not a reboot) and, if possible, use a PS/2 keyboard. When the Alt+ F12 is registered you will get a message on screen about copying the main BIOS
 to the Backup chip. DO NOT turn tURN PC off whilst this process takes place. Once the copying has been completed you can restart as usual.
One beep is a memory code

Thank you but I already did that, I found the method in another post in this forum. I am using a USB keyboard, and it was not working at all, I had to use a PS/2 adapter for it to work.

About you saying "Thats easy to do but not your problem" what did you mean about that?

After making both Main and Backup the same, my FX-6100 is still not booting.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: klh591 on May 20, 2012, 04:47:26 pm
You may be overlooking the most obvious point.

There are TWO DIFFERENT "types"  of the 870A-USB3 motherboard ( both with versions 3.0  and 3.1.).

1. the AM3+ version with a BLACK CPU socket WILL take a bulldozer CPU with the BETA BIOS you are using.

2. the AM3 version with a white CPU socket WILL NOT tale a bulldozer CPU EVEN with the BETA BIOS you are using.

The common factor seems to be that the motherboard MUST have a BLACK socket to be Bulldozer compatible.

Which socket does your motherboard have???
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 20, 2012, 07:06:42 pm
You may be overlooking the most obvious point.

There are TWO DIFFERENT "types"  of the 870A-USB3 motherboard ( both with versions 3.0  and 3.1.).

1. the AM3+ version with a BLACK CPU socket WILL take a bulldozer CPU with the BETA BIOS you are using.

2. the AM3 version with a white CPU socket WILL NOT tale a bulldozer CPU EVEN with the BETA BIOS you are using.

The common factor seems to be that the motherboard MUST have a BLACK socket to be Bulldozer compatible.

Which socket does your motherboard have???

OK I will check but I thought I saw a black, but I will post and let you know, so you are saying if it is a white, then I should send the CPU back for a refund as it will never work?
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 20, 2012, 08:25:57 pm
You may be overlooking the most obvious point.

There are TWO DIFFERENT "types"  of the 870A-USB3 motherboard ( both with versions 3.0  and 3.1.).

1. the AM3+ version with a BLACK CPU socket WILL take a bulldozer CPU with the BETA BIOS you are using.

2. the AM3 version with a white CPU socket WILL NOT tale a bulldozer CPU EVEN with the BETA BIOS you are using.

The common factor seems to be that the motherboard MUST have a BLACK socket to be Bulldozer compatible.

Which socket does your motherboard have???

Ok I just checked and I do have the black socket. So what else should I check, might the CPU be damaged? as I bought it used (Like New) on Amazon.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: Vezina on May 20, 2012, 08:56:03 pm


Ok I just checked and I do have the black socket. So what else should I check, might the CPU be damaged? as I bought it used (Like New) on Amazon.

Most probable is defective ,but you have to check it in some other mobo that is compatible.
Do you have the warranty of the CPU ?
You can RMA it to AMD if needed .
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 20, 2012, 11:19:35 pm
I am sending this CPU back as I believe it is defective.

I am thinking of getting a AMD Phenom II X4 965 or FX-4100.

Can anyone suggest a good 4 core AMD CPU at a price range of $110.

I also want it compatible with Easy Tune 6.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: autotech on May 21, 2012, 03:24:05 am
What i meant by that isnt your problem is obvious at this point. Having the two different bios was not a problem if it wasnt working when your main bios was updated then copying that to both bioses wont work for you.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: Vezina on May 21, 2012, 05:29:35 am
I am sending this CPU back as I believe it is defective.

I am thinking of getting a AMD Phenom II X4 965 or FX-4100.

Can anyone suggest a good 4 core AMD CPU at a price range of $110.

I also want it compatible with Easy Tune 6.


Get a FX 4100 , it s an excellent CPU.
Very cool CPU.

If you encounter over-voltage or something with that one too come on the forum and ask for info.:)

If you have serious issues with that one too change the motherboard.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 21, 2012, 12:50:26 pm
My initial plan was to get the 4100 but since there was a sale on the 6100 it was $121 i figure spend the extra $11 and get a 6 core, how could I go wrong?

Well here it is, I must spend another $20 to send it back and settle for the one I wanted to get in the first place which is the FX4100.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: autotech on May 22, 2012, 02:17:41 am
As that board is supposed to be good for your 6100 i would keep it and take the board back and get a different one and have it flashed for you and tested b4 u get it. Even just an exchange should work even if you dont have it tested either the processor is bad or the motherboard take your pick and rma both if you have to.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 22, 2012, 12:31:27 pm
As that board is supposed to be good for your 6100 i would keep it and take the board back and get a different one and have it flashed for you and tested b4 u get it. Even just an exchange should work even if you dont have it tested either the processor is bad or the motherboard take your pick and rma both if you have to.

Why do you say I should do an RMA for my board as well, I already sent the CPU back for a refund and I will be getting the FX4100, but this time I will be getting a NEW! one, so if that one still does not work, then definitely I will be sending the MoBo back.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: Vezina on May 22, 2012, 12:47:47 pm
Don t worry ,once they are brand new you should be able to enjoy Bulldozer :)
But make sure you start over-clocking one step at a time ,don t go directly to 4 Ghz :)
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on May 23, 2012, 01:16:07 am
Don t worry ,once they are brand new you should be able to enjoy Bulldozer :)
But make sure you start over-clocking one step at a time ,don t go directly to 4 Ghz :)

I don't plan on over clocking as I don't know how, but if I do, I might fry it, lol, as I am always tempted to go extreme. Well I hope it works when I get it in the next 2 weeks.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: autotech on May 25, 2012, 01:58:46 am
Being who i am i always play it safer than sorry if the cpu is bad fine a different one will work if there is a problem with the board and a processor that is certified to run on it then the board could have an issue. So me i would send both back and get new of both but the same model and so on.
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: MarkJohnson on May 25, 2012, 02:59:13 am
I hope the 4100 works for you, but the FX-xxxx series chips are designed for the 9xx series boards only.  Gigabyte and others have patched the BIOS to force them to work on older motherboards.  I assume the only problem is the BIOS are still being debugged.  Contact Gigabyte and see if they have a newer BIOS to try.

You will probably have to send the 4100 back and  get an AM3 chip, or just get a 900 series board.  Or wait until a new bios is released.

-=Mark=-
Title: Re: GA-870A-USB3 with FX-6100 not working F5d
Post by: jrlewis on June 08, 2012, 01:55:21 pm
I hope the 4100 works for you, but the FX-xxxx series chips are designed for the 9xx series boards only.  Gigabyte and others have patched the BIOS to force them to work on older motherboards.  I assume the only problem is the BIOS are still being debugged.  Contact Gigabyte and see if they have a newer BIOS to try.

You will probably have to send the 4100 back and  get an AM3 chip, or just get a 900 series board.  Or wait until a new bios is released.

-=Mark=-

I received the new FX4100 on Tuesday and it was working gust fine. I also overclocked it to 4.01Ghz, but it crashed, so I am running it at 3.7Ghz for now, it is quite faster than my old Athlon X4 620 2.6Ghz, but the quality score for my CPU is the same on Windows 7, rated at 7.2.

I appreciate all of your help so far and will continue coming here with any other issues I may have.