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GA-MA790FXT-UD5P build advice
« on: December 22, 2009, 12:27:59 am »
I want to make a new system. Should I wait or get this GA-MA790FXT-UD5P mb and a 125 watt Phenom II 965?
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Re: GA-MA790FXT-UD5P build advice
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2009, 09:08:42 am »
Looks like a new board has replaced the GA-MA790FXT-UD5P.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128415
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Re: GA-MA790FXT-UD5P build advice
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2009, 10:36:48 am »
I want to make a new system. Should I wait or get this GA-MA790FXT-UD5P mb and a 125 watt Phenom II 965?

If you want 16X PCI graphics with a quad core processor (which you do), the UD5P is for sure, the one to get. I had tried others and the UD5P was far away the best choice. (please do not buy Asus)
The 945 processor runs so fast that I can't justify buying a 965 and spending $100 more. The 945 works so well, even with CADD drawings and streaming HD media, that I cant see the advantage of the 965.
IT WOULD BE BETTER to spend on Low CAS DDR3 matched memory cards which make more of a difference in the overall speed of the entire system. and it would be better to spend on a case with advanced ventilation (like a server case) instead of a normal PC case, as opposed to spending $100 more for the 965 processor.
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Re: GA-MA790FXT-UD5P build advice
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2009, 05:19:14 pm »
Thank You for the advice..I'll look for some good ddr3 memory too.I noticed most are 8-8-8-24 timings
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Re: GA-MA790FXT-UD5P build advice
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2009, 08:05:25 pm »
Hi,
 Just make sure memory is on the QVL list,
Best of luck with the new build,
Cheers

Re: GA-MA790FXT-UD5P build advice
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2010, 07:12:51 pm »
Looking at the specs, this new MA790FXTA -UD5 board adds USB3 and SATA3 support to the slightly older MA79FXT-UD5P, although its not quite that simple. The older board has 10 SATA ports, all able to run at SATA2 speeds. Six of them (the blue SATA ports) can be operated as a single RAID array or can be used in native IDE or ACHI modes to support independent drives. The remaining four (the white GSATA ports) can be used in a simiar way, as a RAID array (if I'm reading the manual correctly) or as native IDE/AHCI devices. This gives a lot of flexibility to the drive configuration enabling some very complex drive arrays to be created, including two separate four drive RAID arrays plus two single drives. eSATA support (if required) is provided by a separate cable assembly and backplane supplied with the board.

On the newer board the six blue SATA2 ports are still present, allowing for the 6 drive RAID, 4 drive RAID and 2 independents or six independents to be set up. However, the remaining four ports are split between two SATA3 ports and two eSATA ports on the rear, which limits the possible drive arrangements. Also, the older board has eight rear USB2 outlets whilst the new board has two USB2 and 2 USB3 ports, the space formerly occupied by the outer USB ports on the old board being used for the eSATA ports.

This board also supports triple ATi cars in 16x Crossfire mode, although there are warnings about limitations if otuer PCI-e cards are installed that could limit that performance. The older board supports two cards in 16x crossfire, but there are no limitations imposed when other cards are installed.

The new board also supports DDR3 1866 DRAM whilst the old board supports DDR3 1666, however, if I'm reading the specs right, the 1866 support is limited to two slots, so I can't tell what speed the new board would support if all four slots are used.

Aside from these differences, the two boards are similarly matched.

I've got the older board with the 955BE processor and 8GB of DDR31600 RAM and its quick at stock speeds. SATA2 performance per drive is pretty good (I'm not using RAID), although UltraSCSI U320 is noticably faster. However, its not the interface that the limiting factor in most cases, its the drive hardware. Looking at sustained transfer rates, most current SATA2 hard drives cannot maintain the 3Gbps throughput the interface can handle because it simply cannot be read that fast by the hardware. To get sustained 3Gbps throughput you need high end high speed or solid state drives, and they don't come cheap.

So, unless you really need triple crossfire, USB3 or limited SATA3 support, this new board is not a great benefit. Remember, the boards may be almost the same price, but the USB3 and SATA3 products are likely to be considerably more expensive. Also, as you're limited to 2 SATA3 drives, the performance of a SATA3 RAID array on th new board is probably going to be no better than a four drive SATA2 RAID array on the older board. I would say its not worth buying the new board at the moment unless you need or want USB3 and SATA3 support simply because the USB3 and SATA 3 parts needed to get any benefit from it are currently too expensive. Also there is something missing from the new board (the bit the P on the end of the old number refers to), but I can't think what it is.

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Re: GA-MA790FXT-UD5P build advice
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2010, 01:16:03 pm »
Thank You for the awesome input. still doing alot of reading about memory to run on the MA 790FXTA-UD5 board. The 125 watt Ph II 965 BE will be here today.

I will probably only run 1 ATI card also.
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Re: GA-MA790FXT-UD5P build advice
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 11:21:57 pm »
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Re: GA-MA790FXT-UD5P build advice
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 08:29:35 am »
Hi
Hope you going to clean the crud ofen that cpu before installation HeHe,
Keep us posted on build progress M8
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greyno3

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Re: GA-MA790FXT-UD5P build advice
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2010, 08:48:50 pm »
...lol...that's still in the box. ;D
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Re: GA-MA790FXT-UD5P build advice
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 04:33:26 pm »
nice photo, shall we start competition of CPU pics  :D ?
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