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Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2013, 03:01:52 pm »
The only person not having a problem here is thessie. He is run the memory that the CPU really supports without OC.

But the thing is  anything over 1600-mhz has to be OC. If there is anybody that is having a problem with 1333 / 1600 memory post it.

I'll say it again it is the hardware people are using. You just can't drop in 2400 memory set the speed or the profile and think it is going to work.

Yes Gigabyte advertised that you can run higher speed memory. But Gigabyte is telling you that anything over 1600 has to be Overclock too.

Support for DDR3 3000(O.C.) / 2933(O.C.) / 2800(O.C.) / 2666(O.C.) / 2600(O.C.) / 2500(O.C.) / 2400(O.C.) / 2200(O.C.) / 2133(O.C.) / 2000(O.C.) / 1866(O.C.) / 1800(O.C.) / 1600 / 1333 MHz

The OP never posted any of his spec's. The more memory you put in and the faster you run that memory the more it is going to stress the board.

The more you run the more you have to tweak the bios to support the faster memory.


I had problems even when running the dimms at 1333Mhz. I spent weeks rulling out potential problems (GPU, BIOS settings, general voltages, system agent voltage, XMP, airflow, clocks... These settings were not a problem when running 2 sticks. The problem is as simple as it sounds: Populate more than 2 ram slots = BSOD sooner or later.
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Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2013, 04:08:32 am »
The only person not having a problem here is thessie. He is run the memory that the CPU really supports without OC.

But the thing is  anything over 1600-mhz has to be OC. If there is anybody that is having a problem with 1333 / 1600 memory post it.

I'll say it again it is the hardware people are using. You just can't drop in 2400 memory set the speed or the profile and think it is going to work.

Yes Gigabyte advertised that you can run higher speed memory. But Gigabyte is telling you that anything over 1600 has to be Overclock too.

Support for DDR3 3000(O.C.) / 2933(O.C.) / 2800(O.C.) / 2666(O.C.) / 2600(O.C.) / 2500(O.C.) / 2400(O.C.) / 2200(O.C.) / 2133(O.C.) / 2000(O.C.) / 1866(O.C.) / 1800(O.C.) / 1600 / 1333 MHz

The OP never posted any of his spec's. The more memory you put in and the faster you run that memory the more it is going to stress the board.

The more you run the more you have to tweak the bios to support the faster memory.


That would be me.  I'm running 4 sticks at their stock 1600 MHz clocks.

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H
RAM: 8GB G.Skill F3-12800CL6-2GBXH (4x2GB)
CPU: Intel i7 4770K
OS: Windows 7 x64

I am on a 100% clean system, and have reinstalled Windows a couple of times thinking it was IRST issues.  I decided to Google and ended up here.  Liike all the others, it only happens with all 4 DIMM slots filled.  So you can forget the "it must be your overclocked memory" theory -- mine are at stock clocks.

Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2013, 06:17:35 am »
The only person not having a problem here is thessie. He is run the memory that the CPU really supports without OC.

But the thing is  anything over 1600-mhz has to be OC. If there is anybody that is having a problem with 1333 / 1600 memory post it.

I'll say it again it is the hardware people are using. You just can't drop in 2400 memory set the speed or the profile and think it is going to work.

Yes Gigabyte advertised that you can run higher speed memory. But Gigabyte is telling you that anything over 1600 has to be Overclock too.

Support for DDR3 3000(O.C.) / 2933(O.C.) / 2800(O.C.) / 2666(O.C.) / 2600(O.C.) / 2500(O.C.) / 2400(O.C.) / 2200(O.C.) / 2133(O.C.) / 2000(O.C.) / 1866(O.C.) / 1800(O.C.) / 1600 / 1333 MHz

The OP never posted any of his spec's. The more memory you put in and the faster you run that memory the more it is going to stress the board.

The more you run the more you have to tweak the bios to support the faster memory.



You are assuming a lot in your post, I'm not overclocking anything, and the RAM is listed by Gigabyte as approved for use in the Z87-D3HP motherboard. It is high quality Corsair RAM and XMP is not enabled in the BIOS so it is running at the safe stock default speed of 1333MHz, I have tried it at 1600MHz and get the same results. I do not agree with you that the issue is the hardware I am using. Here are my specs.

Z87-D3HP motherboard
Corsair Memory CMX 1600C9 DDR3 (X2 sets) Total = 4X4GB sticks
CPU = Intel i5 4670
Windows 7 x64

2 DIMMS are fine but 4 DIMMS is a fail.

« Last Edit: December 11, 2013, 06:23:48 am by No457 Snowy »

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Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2013, 09:21:46 pm »
@No457 Snowy

Have you tried another brand of memory. Because it is on their list that doesn't mean it will run.

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 You are assuming a lot in your post, I'm not overclocking anything

@No457 Snowy
So you can forget the "it must be your overclocked memory" theory -- mine are at stock clocks.  

Where in my post that it said you are OC your memory. This is what I posted: "But the thing is  anything over 1600-mhz has to be OC."

Yes Gigabyte advertised that you can run higher speed memory. But Gigabyte is telling you that anything over 1600 has to be Overclock too.

So where is my OC theory. I was only Quoting what Gigabyte is saying. I never said that your were OC your memory.

That is why I ask if any body was having problems with 1333 & 1600.  Plus I'll say it again that thessie isn't having a problem.

You should ask him what he is doing to get it to run.
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Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2013, 03:21:07 am »
@No457 Snowy

Have you tried another brand of memory. Because it is on their list that doesn't mean it will run.

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 You are assuming a lot in your post, I'm not overclocking anything

@No457 Snowy
So you can forget the "it must be your overclocked memory" theory -- mine are at stock clocks.  

Where in my post that it said you are OC your memory. This is what I posted: "But the thing is  anything over 1600-mhz has to be OC."

Yes Gigabyte advertised that you can run higher speed memory. But Gigabyte is telling you that anything over 1600 has to be Overclock too.

So where is my OC theory. I was only Quoting what Gigabyte is saying. I never said that your were OC your memory.

That is why I ask if any body was having problems with 1333 & 1600.  Plus I'll say it again that thessie isn't having a problem.

You should ask him what he is doing to get it to run.

I read what you said.  Did you read what I said?  My memory runs at 1600 MHz stock.  That ends your theory.  Try again.

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Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2013, 05:01:24 am »
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That ends your theory 

So what theory is that. Show me where in any of my post that I said you were OC your memory.

This is my theory ask: thessie what is he doing that you guys are not. He has run 4 sticks of 1333mhz 16gbs & 4 sticks of 1600mhz 32gbs

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I have 4x4G 1333Mhz Crucial sticks in it, and I haven't seen any BSODs yet.

However, I have 4x8G 1600Mhz Crucial sticks on order - I wonder if I'll start seeing this when I try that.  Ugh.

Just an update - I received my Crucial 4x8g sticks last night and installed them (32g total).

I ran a couple of video benchmarking programs for a few hours to see if I could trigger SOMETHING (since I figured video benchmarking would get memory and processor used quite a bit), and everything worked fine (tho' I noticed the Intel 4600 GPU isn't the fastest in the world, but I don't game so there you go).

No BSODs as yet.


What bios is he running? How does he have his bios setup? What other hardware is he running that is different than yours?
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Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2013, 10:42:38 pm »
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That ends your theory 

So what theory is that. Show me where in any of my post that I said you were OC your memory.

This is my theory ask: thessie what is he doing that you guys are not. He has run 4 sticks of 1333mhz 16gbs & 4 sticks of 1600mhz 32gbs

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thessie
I have 4x4G 1333Mhz Crucial sticks in it, and I haven't seen any BSODs yet.

However, I have 4x8G 1600Mhz Crucial sticks on order - I wonder if I'll start seeing this when I try that.  Ugh.

Just an update - I received my Crucial 4x8g sticks last night and installed them (32g total).

I ran a couple of video benchmarking programs for a few hours to see if I could trigger SOMETHING (since I figured video benchmarking would get memory and processor used quite a bit), and everything worked fine (tho' I noticed the Intel 4600 GPU isn't the fastest in the world, but I don't game so there you go).

No BSODs as yet.


What bios is he running? How does he have his bios setup? What other hardware is he running that is different than yours?

If it is all so specific to run these boards why does Gigabyte not publish this one very specific combination of hardware and config specs then? Instead we are to assume that even the published recommended RAM list they DO publish not worth consulting, according to you, and then we need to consult that one guy on the internet that managed to hit the jackpot of that one magical combination of hardware/config settings that Gigabyte themselves seem unable to enlighten us with? and unless we all follow that one particular recipe we should not expect our systems to operate as advertised?

That's just ridiculous.

If the boards only run 4 DIMMS with Crucial RAM and a whole bunch of other very specific settings like this one guy has, then Gigabyte needs to be up front about that and say so, don't publish a Corsair RAM part number on a list as compatible if it isn't.

Gigabyte need to own this and tell us, the paying customers EXACTLY what we need to use/do to run and fully utilise the product we paid for. The product does not operate as described, this has been reported by a LOT of people and it appears that Gigabyte do not know what specifics to recommend or how to fix it.
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Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2013, 03:26:34 pm »
I'm sorry you guys are having a problem. But the thing is thessie is not why? I run two x79 boards and I have some problems with those boards too.

But have found a work around on both boards and they run great. My His 7850 4gb card only will run in one of the boards. Why I don't know don't care.

Both boards will BSOD if I run a Profile in the bios. So I set the speed and that is it. Like I said at the start some of the z77 boards had the same problems.

It looks like Gigabyte never fix it from the z77 boards. The only thing I can say is run two sticks of memory till Gigabyte might or can fix this problem.

From reading all the reviews that really more people are having problems with the USB connection than memory problem.

Plus go over to Tweaktown to see if they have a beta bios that will help.

http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/





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Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2013, 08:46:51 pm »
Brand new Z87X-UD4H here, i bought it yesterday afternoon(24/12) im using Corsair Dominator Platinum 4x4gb 2800 C11 here without issues, also using xmp profile. They are running at 2800 11-13-13-36 all dimms filled. Using i7 4770k without oc (gotta buy a mew cooler for that) paired with a titan a dedicated asus sound card, one samsung ssd and a wd mechanical hd. What should i do to trigger the issue? Mine is Rev 1.0 amd came with F5 BIOS, updated yesterday to F7. I Noticed some mouse hangs in Windows 8 using it in a usb3.0 port then switched to a front usb2.0 and the problem is gone.

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Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2013, 02:52:00 am »
have you guys checked with gigabyte support?
you may email them to get this solved

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Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2013, 12:44:19 am »
Brand new Z87X-UD4H here, i bought it yesterday afternoon(24/12) im using Corsair Dominator Platinum 4x4gb 2800 C11 here without issues, also using xmp profile. They are running at 2800 11-13-13-36 all dimms filled. Using i7 4770k without oc (gotta buy a mew cooler for that) paired with a titan a dedicated asus sound card, one samsung ssd and a wd mechanical hd. What should i do to trigger the issue? Mine is Rev 1.0 amd came with F5 BIOS, updated yesterday to F7. I Noticed some mouse hangs in Windows 8 using it in a usb3.0 port then switched to a front usb2.0 and the problem is gone.

If you are not having any problems don't mess with to cause the problem. Then you might be screwed leave well enough a lone.
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Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2013, 02:11:44 am »
tweak town has the latest bios.
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/28441-gigabyte-latest-beta-bios.html
Z87-d3hp --f6f
z87x-ud5h-f8e

you may try it.

Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2013, 09:38:53 am »
Latest Beta BIOS (F8b) does not help for my UD4H. I guess gigabyte is just incapable to fix this. Better anyone gets another board. Shame on you, Gigabyte! Never thought that you would suck like this! This was my last board from you and thats for sure! Why? Because you haven't fixed this issue even after 6 months!

Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2013, 11:28:15 pm »
update:

Horrible voltage requierement for OC (In AUTO at 4.2 voltage JUMPS to 1.48, before in mi last sabertooth z87 jumped itself only at 1.28 at 4.3 in AUTO) Of course temps reaches 100ºc  and system shut down.

Some kind of incompatibility, stability issues with my usb 2.0 pheripheras, laaags eveywhere in the mouse. tried turning off XHCI and enable it with no luck.

I had many prime95 errors when i manually oced the Memory .

I had by now up to 4 BSODs..

WHY THE HECK DID I LEFT ASUS TO TRY GIGABYTE, WHAT AN ASS HOLE. Maximus VI Hero.. here i come !

Re: Z87-D3HP When will Gigabyte fix the 4 DIMM memory issue?
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2014, 03:31:32 am »
The C state could be the problem.
We had numerous issues with C states on IBM servers running x5000 series Xeon's where the return from idle state of a CPU / core would throw memory errors. If your in windows then it could be turning down or idling a core, and when that core returns from idle it then throws memory errors and BSOD's.

You can read IBM's (rather cryptic) resolve for it here :
http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=migr-5085841

Can someone try changing the C state back down to ACPI C2 and see if this resolves the issue ?
(note that the 'Intel' C state is a higher number, ie Intel C6 is ACPI C3)

I'm interested in this motherboard but a core requirement is being able to run 4x memory modules. 
Good luck :)
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