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870A-UD3 v3.1 needs a Win-10 BIOS.

hoytpr

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870A-UD3 v3.1 needs a Win-10 BIOS.
« on: March 26, 2018, 07:28:27 pm »
So my 870A-UD3 v3.1 with an AMD-Phenom II X6 1090T has been running rock solid for several years, but needs a Win-10 BIOS to ever hope to upgrade to an AM3+ processor. 

I don't see a BIOS update for Win10 (I'm running an Enterprise Win10 with creators update).

Anyone seen a BIOS for this board and Win10 that will enable AM3+ CPUs?
Pete
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Kenshiro

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Re: 870A-UD3 v3.1 needs a Win-10 BIOS.
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2018, 09:06:49 am »
So my 870A-UD3 v3.1 with an AMD-Phenom II X6 1090T has been running rock solid for several years, but needs a Win-10 BIOS to ever hope to upgrade to an AM3+ processor. 

I don't see a BIOS update for Win10 (I'm running an Enterprise Win10 with creators update).

Anyone seen a BIOS for this board and Win10 that will enable AM3+ CPUs?
Pete

You never got an answer on this, so let me quickly jump in, but you probably have your problem already sorted out.
 
AM3 cpu's can be used in AM3+ socket, but not the other way around. You want to use a AM3+ cpu on a AM3 motherboard, that unfortunately is not possible.
No BIOS update will enable that...

I run the same cpu as you, with Win 10 installed. If all you want is install Win 10 go ahead, you won't have all the proper drivers, since your mobo only has support until Win 8.  If you have a SSD a a system drive, just replace the AMD controller with the Windows Controller (AHCI), under Device Manager (http://forums.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/Replacing-Manufacturer-AHCI-drivers-with-standard-Microsoft-SATA/ta-p/176373).

I fully understand you, I've been running the 1090T for 7 years now and it's running perfectly smooth still.
If I were you, I would wait still 1-2 years, then Zen 3 (7nm) will be out.  I will wait 2 more years to upgrade my rig.

Cheers

« Last Edit: May 18, 2018, 09:07:25 am by Kenshiro »
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hoytpr

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Re: 870A-UD3 v3.1 needs a Win-10 BIOS.
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2018, 10:11:31 pm »
Thanks,
I though I had read the AM3+ would work in this board, but it doesn't matter. I'll upgrade in a couple years and everything will be better and cheaper anyway.
Pete
870A-UD3 Rev 3.1
AMD Phenom II X6

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Re: 870A-UD3 v3.1 needs a Win-10 BIOS.
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2018, 09:28:26 pm »
So my 870A-UD3 v3.1 with an AMD-Phenom II X6 1090T has been running rock solid for several years, but needs a Win-10 BIOS to ever hope to upgrade to an AM3+ processor. 

I don't see a BIOS update for Win10 (I'm running an Enterprise Win10 with creators update).

Anyone seen a BIOS for this board and Win10 that will enable AM3+ CPUs?
Pete

You never got an answer on this, so let me quickly jump in, but you probably have your problem already sorted out.
 
AM3 cpu's can be used in AM3+ socket, but not the other way around. You want to use a AM3+ cpu on a AM3 motherboard, that unfortunately is not possible.
No BIOS update will enable that...

I run the same cpu as you, with Win 10 installed. If all you want is install Win 10 go ahead, you won't have all the proper drivers, since your mobo only has support until Win 8.  If you have a SSD a a system drive, just replace the AMD controller with the Windows Controller (AHCI), under Device Manager (http://forums.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/Replacing-Manufacturer-AHCI-drivers-with-standard-Microsoft-SATA/ta-p/176373).

I fully understand you, I've been running the 1090T for 7 years now and it's running perfectly smooth still.
If I were you, I would wait still 1-2 years, then Zen 3 (7nm) will be out.  I will wait 2 more years to upgrade my rig.

Cheers


I hate to correct you, but the REV3.1 has got a AM3+ CPU socket.

It's anything before 3.1 that doesn't (ie REV 3.0 backwards)

Source: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-870A-UD3-rev-31#ov
Nothing to see here, move along....

hoytpr

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Re: 870A-UD3 v3.1 needs a Win-10 BIOS.
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2018, 03:08:20 pm »
So my 870A-UD3 v3.1 with an AMD-Phenom II X6 1090T has been running rock solid for several years, but needs a Win-10 BIOS to ever hope to upgrade to an AM3+ processor. 

I don't see a BIOS update for Win10 (I'm running an Enterprise Win10 with creators update).

Anyone seen a BIOS for this board and Win10 that will enable AM3+ CPUs?
Pete

You never got an answer on this, so let me quickly jump in, but you probably have your problem already sorted out.
 
AM3 cpu's can be used in AM3+ socket, but not the other way around. You want to use a AM3+ cpu on a AM3 motherboard, that unfortunately is not possible.
No BIOS update will enable that...

I run the same cpu as you, with Win 10 installed. If all you want is install Win 10 go ahead, you won't have all the proper drivers, since your mobo only has support until Win 8.  If you have a SSD a a system drive, just replace the AMD controller with the Windows Controller (AHCI), under Device Manager (http://forums.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/Replacing-Manufacturer-AHCI-drivers-with-standard-Microsoft-SATA/ta-p/176373).

I fully understand you, I've been running the 1090T for 7 years now and it's running perfectly smooth still.
If I were you, I would wait still 1-2 years, then Zen 3 (7nm) will be out.  I will wait 2 more years to upgrade my rig.

Cheers


I hate to correct you, but the REV3.1 has got a AM3+ CPU socket.

It's anything before 3.1 that doesn't (ie REV 3.0 backwards)

Source: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-870A-UD3-rev-31#ov

This what I was reading also. But wasn't sure if there were two mobos with different chip slots, or if my mobo simply needs the BIOS update to support the newer chip.

The extra L2 and L3 cache in the FX series should give me a significant boost.
Thanks,
-p
« Last Edit: December 03, 2018, 03:12:56 pm by hoytpr »
Pete
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Re: 870A-UD3 v3.1 needs a Win-10 BIOS.
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2018, 08:28:06 pm »
This what I was reading also. But wasn't sure if there were two mobos with different chip slots, or if my mobo simply needs the BIOS update to support the newer chip.

The extra L2 and L3 cache in the FX series should give me a significant boost.
Thanks,
-p
The easiest way to tell:

Take off the heat sink and take out your cpu.

If your cpu socket is black (like in the picture of the link I provided) then it's a AM3+ board.

If it's white (ie change the rev number to 3.0 or lower to see what I mean) then that's a AM3 board and you won't be able to use a AM3+ cpu.

Disclaimer: Obviously do not do this if you don't have any thermal paste to reapply to your current cpu after checking as I'm not sure (and I wouldn't recommend) reusing the original thermal paste which may still be on the heat sink and cpu as it will not do your cpu any favours (ie I suspect it'll overheat, so once the heat sink is off I would clean both the cpu and the heat sink of the old thermal paste and reapply some when you've checked the cpu socket colour)
Nothing to see here, move along....

Re: 870A-UD3 v3.1 needs a Win-10 BIOS.
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2019, 11:21:47 am »
Hi there,
I am going to little off topic but I need help about which AM3+ CPU would be the best option for gaming? I have eliminated two CPUs from this guide, one is AMD FX-8370 and another one is AMD FX-6300 Vishera. I am confused about which of them provide the most effective performance.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2019, 11:23:02 am by rohitbansal »

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Re: 870A-UD3 v3.1 needs a Win-10 BIOS.
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2019, 09:38:05 am »
Hi there,
I am going to little off topic but I need help about which AM3+ CPU would be the best option for gaming? I have eliminated two CPUs from this guide, one is AMD FX-8370 and another one is AMD FX-6300 Vishera. I am confused about which of them provide the most effective performance.


Neither! FX8350 is older but a better idea for gaming - see benchmark comparisons and I have been with this CPU for years of 2k gaming.
X470 Aorus Gaming / Ryzen 2700x / GV-RX570AORUS-4GD / 16 GB HyperX Predator 3200  / SeaSonic 650W / Tt View 71 TG / Win10x64

 

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