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GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)

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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2010, 03:54:22 pm »
A very good reason to have checked it with Memtest86 at the beginning. Ah, hindsight is a very wonderfull thing ;)

The system wont even boot with it connected.

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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2010, 03:57:05 pm »
You know, I thought it was only apple's that spoiled everything. Now it seems like one male sheep can ruin things too! :P
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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #47 on: August 23, 2010, 03:25:45 am »
I have the exact same peoblem

but I've found out that is the psu, as I test it on another computer and it will freeze up under the OS and then didn't even post like doing the same with the GA-890FXA-UD5


you can call me as you like

but I have notice that all the treads I've read from the users with the same problem are using Corsair PSU

is there any possibility that the board draws too much power from tha psu, or either the psu just won't keep up with a Motherboard this "High end"?
« Last Edit: August 23, 2010, 03:29:49 am by Christoph »

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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2010, 08:30:07 am »
Hi Christoph,

You are quite right about the possibility of there being to much of an energy draw being asked for when the PC first BOOTS up and it is something both Dark Mantis and I have been considering, especially with some of the newer GPU's.

I will make a few enquiries regarding this and will post back when I can get some proper information.

Thanks for your input, it is much appreciated.
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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #49 on: August 23, 2010, 09:02:22 am »
So, I've been getting the exact same thing. Well, I am now. I got all the parts for my new machine about two weeks ago. I went with:

GA-890FXA-UD5 R (v2.0)
Phenom II 1090 (OEM)
This memory: OCZ3RPR1333C9LV8GK  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227541
Sapphire HD5830 RT
and a crucial 128gig RealSSD.

and... drum roll please: CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010

So it was up and running for a few days, though it would BSOD a few times a day and I was trying to figure out what was causing that. I upgraded to f4 bios just fine. Rebooted and everything.

I had played around a little with overclocking using AMD Overdrive and I decided to just restore it to the default config (which I had been running mainly anyway). So I went into overdrive and clicked reset default settings. And my screens went blank. Computer turned off.

Tried to reboot, no beeps, lights fans went on for a second then off. I took everything out of the case, unhooked everything but the proc, could not get it to beep let alone post.  Fans would come on, lights, but no beep.

So, it has to be either the proc or the MB right? I bought the proc at superbiz (which was stupid, should have just got a retail one) and the board at newegg.  Anyway today I took it into fry's to see if they could tell me which was busted so I could replace the part. The service guy was actually pretty awesome and nice to help me out, but he did. He ran my board with his proc and it worked. Got video and everything.  He ran my proc on his board and it was dead.

 Ok, fine. This shouldn't have happened but I'm a big boy, I read the giant screaming warnings on the screen and clicked ok. I can accept that I fried a proc. So I'm at fry's, might as well buy another 1090.

Take it home, set it up, it beeps. I get the same 11 beeps, pause, 11 beeps. but no video. I tried this with my 5830, and an old 4650 from multiple slots. I tried it with memory, without memory, one dimm, two dimms, all the memory slots, etc. 11 beeps.

The manual for the mb says "continuous short beeping" is a power problem. This isn't quite continuous, but it doesn't mention 11 anywhere. Anyway, my old machine is a dell core2 machine and I can't use the powersupply from that because it's only 300w and only has a fourpin for the cpu power. So I do it the other way and run it off of my corsair which works fine.

So, now I'm really not sure what to rma? Is it the psu? The super duper nuclear bomb proof,  comes in a freaking VELVET BAG psu that cost me a $300 proc? Should I RMA the memory? My old box is DDR2 so I can't test it. And fry's is a bit far, and they already really went above and beyond helping me once with suff I didn't buy there.

It really does seem like this motherboard, proc and PSU simply do not play well together.

What do you guys think I should do?

Oh, I was also wondering about that whole short beep long beep being subjective, because long beeps are a bios issue right? So I've posted video for anyone to see.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=32772F4144013545

Ok, this has now eaten my entire weekend. I'm going to bed.





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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #50 on: August 23, 2010, 09:23:50 am »
Well firstly it is definitely 11 short beeps ;) I think the memory controller has gone which is on the CPU but I must admit that doesn't sound reasonable considering that you have just changed it.
Can you swap the slave PSU over to just power the board and use the Corsair to power the GPU etc?
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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #51 on: August 23, 2010, 11:34:42 am »
Just another thing to try out if you haven't already done so, is clearing CMOS as this can sometimes help.

After you  have cleared CMOS go through the same steps that you did before but don't use the 5830 Graphics Card but try with the 4650 in the 2nd PCIE slot instead. I know the manual says to use the first one but.......  :-\

There have been several cases recently where the higher end GPU's want a lot of power at start-up and this might be the problem you are now facing. If we can eliminate or prove that is the case we will have a better understanding of the next steps to take.

Remember, when all else fails a cup of tea and a good swear will often help! It won't solve the problem but it will make you feel better.

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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #52 on: August 23, 2010, 04:49:33 pm »
I have tried resetting the cmos on numerous ocassions using the button, jumpers and removing battery. Sometimes all three.

I think did try the 4650 on the second 16x slot, but I'll try again after work.

As to using the psu from the dell, I'm a little leary of that. Mainly because I work from home and I need a working machine to actually do my job. The dell's power cables are all too short and clipped in, so I'd have to remove it and apparently dell doesn't think a psu should be user servicable. Also, it doesn't have a hard power switch which scares me a bit.

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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2010, 04:52:30 pm »
That's fair enough. Well can you borrow one just to try?
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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2010, 05:52:37 pm »
I don't really have anyone to borrow one from.  Re the video card, do you think it would matter since the same beepcodes happen with no vid at all?

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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2010, 06:00:18 pm »
To be fair probably not. Just trying to cover all the bases. I would just RMA the motherboard and have done with it. From everything that you  have tested it looks to be faulty.
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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2010, 08:45:27 pm »
Yeap

11 beeps just like mine.

the thing here is that I have tested the Psu on another computer and it does the same, I think (don't know much about this) the 3+/5+ line got broke


Another thing in common is that we all flash to F4, and the thing is that the board sets the vcore for boot at 1.47v with the cpu running at 2.8 GHz, either the F4 bios revision is misreading and is giving more Vcore than that, causing either hardware to blow

one thing I'm almost sure, is that the pause between the 11 beeps, is a reboot, I know this cuz I have the HD4890 that lights up and starts with the fan at full speed at the boot, if is a bad board it would not try to reboot (correct me on this one)


people with the same symptoms (the board of course) have RMAed the board getting it back with instructions that 'No trouble found"
« Last Edit: August 23, 2010, 08:47:59 pm by Christoph »

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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2010, 08:50:52 pm »
Thanks for sharing that information with us. Sometime ago I was helping a member with that exact same fault and the tech support told him to RMA it because anything other than standard beep codes means a faulty board.  :-\
Do you know what other hardware has been blowing?
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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2010, 08:53:46 pm »
Cristoph, do you mean that your PSU worked in the other machine? Or that it made the motherboard there fail too?

I bought this on Jul 31 so if I want to RMA to newegg I have to do it quick. I'm just not sure *what* to rma.

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Re: GA-890FXA-UD5: No post (power error)
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2010, 08:56:59 pm »
No basically he's saying the same symptoms happened on the second computer when he swapped over the power supply. In other words faulty PSU. This is why I was advising trying another PSU earlier.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2010, 08:58:24 pm by Dark Mantis »
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16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
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