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X58A-UD3R booting problem?

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Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2010, 09:36:05 am »
Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.

There are obviously certain things to check like all the power connections etc.
 
Assuming that they check out ok then I would say make sure that the RAM is seated well in the correct slots and that the BIOS and OS are reporting the correct amount.
 
After that try entering the timings manually for the memory.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2010, 01:16:48 pm by Dark Mantis »
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Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2010, 01:04:35 pm »
To resume from sleep with via mouse click, it must be a PS/2 mouse, and you must enable this option in the BIOS power page.

For resume to actually work, you need to be using the latest BIOS, and be 100% Tested stable (Using stability programs such as Memtest86+, Prime95, LinX, IBT, OCCT, ect)

Latest BIOS for the X58A-UD3R is as follows:

Rev. 1.0 F7d
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/12/20/2696817/X58AUD3R.7d.zip

Rev. 2.0 FC3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/12/20/2696817/X58AUD3R.c3.zip

Auto is not going to work for S3 resume, you are going to need to set many things in your BIOS to be 100% Stable, Memory voltage, memory multiplier and uncore multi (2 x ram multi), and your QPI/Vtt, and possible Vcore depending on your CPU speeds.

Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2010, 09:34:53 pm »
I didn't update to the beta BIOS, because QFlash doesn't like the only USB stick that I have accessible right now.

But I did set the settings you mentioned manually and ran memtest86+ for 2 passes... and behold, S3 resume is working perfectly now!

I'll post back in case I still notice any problems, but the issue seems fixed right now.

Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2010, 01:16:26 pm »
Hmm, it looks like the problem isn't quite fixed.

My settings are:
Memory multiplier: 10x
Memory voltage: 1.5v
Uncore: 20x
QPI/Vtt: 1.175v

When I try to wake the computer from sleep, all fans start turning for a second. Then it restarts with all memory LEDs on, and stays that way (no display).

All memory tests and stability tests I ran passed, so why is S3 sleep not working?
« Last Edit: November 05, 2010, 05:04:49 pm by lowercase »

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Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2010, 05:06:33 pm »
What is your tRFC timing set to(it will be under advanced memory timings.)?
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
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HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
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StrikeX S7
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Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2010, 05:20:33 pm »
What is your tRFC timing set to(it will be under advanced memory timings.)?

It shows these as the current timings:
tCL 9
tRCD 9
tRP 9
tRAS 24
tRRD 4
tWTP 21
tRFC 108
tCMD 1

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Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2010, 05:37:29 pm »
try setting your tRAS to 27 the rest look alright to me but I must admit not to being an expert on these settings. Try upping your uncore to 22 also. If still no joy try increasing the QPI/Vtt voltage to 1.2V
« Last Edit: November 05, 2010, 05:39:29 pm by Dark Mantis »
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2010, 06:04:02 pm »
try setting your tRAS to 27 the rest look alright to me but I must admit not to being an expert on these settings. Try upping your uncore to 22 also. If still no joy try increasing the QPI/Vtt voltage to 1.2V

With all of those settings I managed to resume from sleep 6 times in a row, but then it failed again.  :'(

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Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2010, 06:28:46 pm »
Try playing around with your QPI/Vtt voltage  a bit. Maybe a little tweak more will be enough. Seems like we are on the right track though.

Your tRFC seems very high so maybe it would be worth trying to drop it to 80 or thereabaouts.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2010, 07:21:34 pm by Dark Mantis »
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2010, 09:31:01 pm »
Try playing around with your QPI/Vtt voltage  a bit. Maybe a little tweak more will be enough. Seems like we are on the right track though.

Your tRFC seems very high so maybe it would be worth trying to drop it to 80 or thereabaouts.

I upped the QPI/Vtt a bit more and tried lowering the tRFC but it didn't change anything, and it still fails to resume if I let it sleep for anything longer than a couple of seconds.

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Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2010, 09:35:10 pm »
As I said I am no expert on memory settings but you need to speak to Lsdmeasap as he is a wizard with them. I would advise you to PM him to have a look at your thread.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

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Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2010, 07:19:43 pm »
Can you please copy this into notepad, then fill in with your exact BIOS settings and other info, then I'll reply back with changes to try

This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

BSOD Error codes and what they mean:
0X00000050 << Incorrect Memory Timing/Freq or Uncore Multi
0X00000124 << Incorrect QPI/Vtt Voltage (To Much/Not Enough)
0X00000101 << Not enough Vcore Voltage
0X00000109 << Not enough or too Much memory voltage

CPU = Model #
Motherboard = Model, Revision #
BIOS Version =
Ram = Brand, Model#, Part#, And or Link

Code: [Select]
[B]Advanced CPU Features:[/B]
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


[B]Uncore & QPI Features:[/B]
QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
Uncore Frequency ..........................  (Always 2x memory Multi or 2x +1, 2x +2, ect - Higher means more Vdimm or QPI/Vtt often but can help stability)
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


[B]Standard Clock Control:[/B]
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

[B]Advanced Clock Control:[/B]
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


[B]Advanced DRAM Features:[/B]
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Manual]

[B]Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:[/B]
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................
tRCD .......................................
tRP .........................................
tRAS .......................................

Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine.  For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
[url=http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3969957&postcount=3615]XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread[/url]


##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................  (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD .......................................
tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
tWR ........................................ 5-12 (Odd # values likely will fail)
tWTP .......................................    (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tWL ........................................   (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
tRFC .......................................
tRTP .......................................
tFAW ......................................
Command Rate (CMD) ................

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................

B2B CAS Delay ..........................


[B]Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU[/B]
Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
CPU Vcore ...............................
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................

[B]MCH/ICH[/B]
PCIE 1.500v ...........................
QPI PLL 1.100v .......................
IOH Core 1.100v .....................
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
ICH Core 1.1v ........................

[B]DRAM[/B]
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2010, 07:51:13 pm »
CPU = i7 950
Motherboard = GA-X58A-UD3R
BIOS Version = FB
Ram = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226096&cm_re=mushkin_silverline_1333-_-20-226-096-_-Product

Code: [Select]
[B]Advanced CPU Features:[/B]
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [23x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


[B]Uncore & QPI Features:[/B]
QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
Uncore Frequency .......................... x21
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


[B]Standard Clock Control:[/B]
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 133
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [Auto]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

[B]Advanced Clock Control:[/B]
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[700mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [700mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


[B]Advanced DRAM Features:[/B]
Performance Enhance ...................... [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ x10
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Quick]

[B]Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:[/B]
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ...................... 9
tRCD ...................................... 9
tRP ......................................... 9
tRAS ....................................... 27

##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................
tRRD .......................................
tWTR .......................................
tWR ........................................
tWTP .......................................
tWL ........................................
tRFC .......................................
tRTP .......................................
tFAW ......................................
Command Rate (CMD) ................

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................

B2B CAS Delay ..........................


[B]Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU[/B]
Load Line Calibration ................. [Auto]
CPU Vcore ............................... [Auto]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ 1.200v
CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... [Auto]

[B]MCH/ICH[/B]
PCIE 1.500v ...........................
QPI PLL 1.100v .......................
IOH Core 1.100v .....................
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
ICH Core 1.1v ........................

[B]DRAM[/B]
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. 1.500v
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

When the problem happens, the fans will start spinning for a second, then it seems to reset, and just hangs there with the memory LEDs on from bottom to top: green, orange, green, orange.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2010, 07:57:29 pm by lowercase »

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Re: X58A-UD3R booting problem?
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2010, 12:33:06 pm »
You are using Fail Safe BIOS defaults, that may be part of the issue.   You need to start with Optimized Defaults, then make changes after that.

Let me know once you have done that, and then if no luck let me know your new full settings and I will advise back.   I'd advise back now, but I want you to start with Optimized Defaults, and sometimes when I advise people will just use my advised settings instead of starting out properly and that just prolongs issues.    No offense meant at all, but please start with Optimized and let me know how that works out, then I'll advise back if needed.

Also, I would be using the latest BIOS previously linked, older BIOSes may or may not work for S3 sleep resume, so it's best to use the latest to be sure.

I will give you full settings for sure if needed, I just want to be sure you start out right is all.