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X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« on: November 10, 2010, 04:09:01 am »
Hi - new member here, looking for some advice on my new i7 setup.

I have a Gigabyte X58A UD3R Rev 2 Motherboard, i7 950 cpu, 3x2gig Patriot 1600mhz ram, ATI 4870 an Corsair 650w PSU.

Once installed, the system started up OK and I loaded "Optimised Settings" in the bios to get things setup.

I noticed that when I first boot the system "cold" after the power has been switched of at the socket, the power light comes on and the fans start to spin for about 1-2 seconds, then stops for abot 2 -3 seconds, then boots normally and loads windows. If I dont switch off the power socket, it boots up straight up.

I seem to recall a similar issue with some early socket 775 motherboards, but I am not sure if this is considered normal for the X58's

Currently I am using the FC3 bios, installed via qflash, with optimised settings loaded - I have done a bit of bios tweaking, but the issue does not seem to go away.

Does any user have a similar setup to mine and how does their system behave on cold boot-up? Are there any bios settings that I should change to alleviate this problem.

I am trying to establish if this behaviour is normal/common with X58's, or there is either a fault with the motherboard or perhaps my RAM is not completely compatible

Thanks
« Last Edit: November 10, 2010, 05:35:25 am by Rebel801 »

notshy

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2010, 09:47:35 am »
Mine does the same -  is it a large problem for you?
GA-X58A-UD3R (Rev 2 - FF) / Core i7 930 @ 3.8Ghz / 6GB CORSAIR Dominator DDR3-1600MHZ (TR3X6G1600C8D) / EBAYED VERY FAULTY RAM OCZ DDR3-2000MHZ (OCZ3G2000LV6GK) / Batmobile Gigabyte ATI HD 5770-UD 1GB) / OSX 10.6.6 (64 bit) (Retail+iBoot+Multibeast) / Win 7 (64 bit) / Ubuntu (64 bit)

Rebel801

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2010, 10:57:57 am »
I guess not, just trying to find out if my new system is OKl.

I normally like to setup a baseline to do a few checks to see if all the new components are OK and work as intended.

Once I am happy with that setup, then I get into some tweaking and overclocking (i.e. the fun stuff).

Considering some of the problems other users are having with their setups, I should count myself as lucky that I have a workable system.

If the general concensus is that this boot up behavior is "normal" and not likely to suggest future problems, I will be happy with that.

Thanks
« Last Edit: November 10, 2010, 10:59:20 am by Rebel801 »

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2010, 11:06:26 am »
This is quite a common occurance with this chipset but it is not 100% right. As you say it isn't doing any great harm but it is still not right and if you are planning to overclock to any great extent I would be inclined to do a few checks first. The last thing you need whan OCing is to start with a system that is not 100% stable.
I would suggest running Memtes86+ on the RAM for at least ten loops and if it shows any errors you will have to test that sticks singly. Also try running Prime95 in blend tests to stress it all as well.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

notshy

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2010, 11:28:51 am »
I have now changed RAM suppliers 2 weeks ago, now I have no issues cold boot, RAM passes 10 passes on Memtest and 15 hours of blend Prime95 with my new Overclocked CPU settings.
GA-X58A-UD3R (Rev 2 - FF) / Core i7 930 @ 3.8Ghz / 6GB CORSAIR Dominator DDR3-1600MHZ (TR3X6G1600C8D) / EBAYED VERY FAULTY RAM OCZ DDR3-2000MHZ (OCZ3G2000LV6GK) / Batmobile Gigabyte ATI HD 5770-UD 1GB) / OSX 10.6.6 (64 bit) (Retail+iBoot+Multibeast) / Win 7 (64 bit) / Ubuntu (64 bit)

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2010, 11:44:02 am »
I have now changed RAM suppliers 2 weeks ago, now I have no issues cold boot, RAM passes 10 passes on Memtest and 15 hours of blend Prime95 with my new Overclocked CPU settings.

That's great. Often it is a problem with ram compatiblility.
I am wondering if that is the same problem as Rebel has got.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2010, 11:45:17 am by Dark Mantis »
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Rebel801

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2010, 12:21:24 pm »
Thanks for the input guys, thats the answer I was looking for -  I will do some Ram testing as you suggest, but I can get hold of the same Corsair Ram that Notshy has in his sig.

It might be worth it as this Patriot ram is  really a budget product anyway (no ramsinks), and the Corsair Ram is refered to on the ram compatibility list for this motherboard. I can remember reading somewhere that these motherboards can be a bit picky with Ram, so I agree that is a good place to start.

I really appreciate you guys helping me out here and I will report back with my findings.

Cheers
« Last Edit: November 10, 2010, 12:24:05 pm by Rebel801 »

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2010, 01:15:05 pm »
Yes that's definitely true. The X58 chipset seems to be quite picky about what memory it will play nicely with. To be fair I don't think you can go far wrong with Corsair RAM.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

notshy

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2010, 02:46:35 pm »
One minute - I still have the funny fan issue spinning with this RAM !!!

But my system is rock solid on cold boot into Memtest, any operating system and any stress test.
GA-X58A-UD3R (Rev 2 - FF) / Core i7 930 @ 3.8Ghz / 6GB CORSAIR Dominator DDR3-1600MHZ (TR3X6G1600C8D) / EBAYED VERY FAULTY RAM OCZ DDR3-2000MHZ (OCZ3G2000LV6GK) / Batmobile Gigabyte ATI HD 5770-UD 1GB) / OSX 10.6.6 (64 bit) (Retail+iBoot+Multibeast) / Win 7 (64 bit) / Ubuntu (64 bit)

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2010, 04:02:34 pm »
One minute - I still have the funny fan issue spinning with this RAM !!!

But my system is rock solid on cold boot into Memtest, any operating system and any stress test.

What power supply unit are you using?
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

notshy

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2010, 04:14:01 pm »
PSU is a Be Quiet 600W E7 - Special Edition
http://www.be-quiet.net/be-quiet.net/index.php?StoryID=17&ProductID=34&websiteLang=en

I'm running 3 HDs in the box, 1 GFX (Gigabyte ATI 5770), and 3 case fans.

I thought 600w would be enough for that?
GA-X58A-UD3R (Rev 2 - FF) / Core i7 930 @ 3.8Ghz / 6GB CORSAIR Dominator DDR3-1600MHZ (TR3X6G1600C8D) / EBAYED VERY FAULTY RAM OCZ DDR3-2000MHZ (OCZ3G2000LV6GK) / Batmobile Gigabyte ATI HD 5770-UD 1GB) / OSX 10.6.6 (64 bit) (Retail+iBoot+Multibeast) / Win 7 (64 bit) / Ubuntu (64 bit)

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2010, 04:18:45 pm »
Yes I would agree it should be enough power for what you are running. I take it that it is new also.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

notshy

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2010, 04:24:07 pm »
Yes - brand new.

Is there anything I can do to test it out? Any utils or apps that I can run to check what voltages being applied to Mobo? Or check BIOS?

I'm having no issues with my Vcore Overclock and getting right voltages to RAM etc for my overclocking settings so ....

Hmmm
GA-X58A-UD3R (Rev 2 - FF) / Core i7 930 @ 3.8Ghz / 6GB CORSAIR Dominator DDR3-1600MHZ (TR3X6G1600C8D) / EBAYED VERY FAULTY RAM OCZ DDR3-2000MHZ (OCZ3G2000LV6GK) / Batmobile Gigabyte ATI HD 5770-UD 1GB) / OSX 10.6.6 (64 bit) (Retail+iBoot+Multibeast) / Win 7 (64 bit) / Ubuntu (64 bit)

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2010, 04:35:50 pm »
Does this problem occur when you are not overclocked?
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

notshy

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Re: X58A - UD3R Boot Up Issue
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2010, 04:40:21 pm »
Yes - I've had it since I first built the machine.

I haven't really worried about it as it wasn't really causing me any issues - just an extra 2-3 seconds on boot. As I'm not running SSDs - I'm aware that it will take me a bit of time to get into my operating system - OSX or Win 7.

I thought that it just might have been some design feature of the new boards - that it sort of double boots at the start - no biggie really but I thought I'd add my 2 pence given that someone created a topic on it.
GA-X58A-UD3R (Rev 2 - FF) / Core i7 930 @ 3.8Ghz / 6GB CORSAIR Dominator DDR3-1600MHZ (TR3X6G1600C8D) / EBAYED VERY FAULTY RAM OCZ DDR3-2000MHZ (OCZ3G2000LV6GK) / Batmobile Gigabyte ATI HD 5770-UD 1GB) / OSX 10.6.6 (64 bit) (Retail+iBoot+Multibeast) / Win 7 (64 bit) / Ubuntu (64 bit)