P67A-UD7-B3 and Corsair H70 CPU water cooler

[Dark Mantis]

Regarding the coolant I use distiled water only and don't find a problem with it but as with all coolants it needs changing regularly. I normally do it about twice a year. That is another good reason for not using some expensive mixrture. I would also advise steering clear of all the coloured coolants as the colourant will come out of the suspension and start to clog the finer matrixes of your cooling blocks etc.

If you must use a colour go for Mayhems Dyes.

[WarYur]

So, what is the general consensus on coolant hose to use?  I have been using Feser hose and then it is 1/2 inch OD and 3/8th ID which with a big case like the Corsair 800D is a little smallish looking but that is what I have on hand along with all the quick disconnects and nozzles and the like.

Then the ideal size of hose for you is the 10mm ID 16mm OD. This is a bit more meaty and looks larger with a bettter bend radius because of the thicker walls but still fits the 10mm barbs. Manufacturer wise the best if you want clear or black is Tygon 3603, if you want coloured use Thermochill.

Hey man, are you sure that you didn't mean "Primochill" rather than Thermochill?  All I found on Frozen CPU was Primochill and the Tygon you were talking about.  I like the idea of the colored tubing though.  I can see why Tygon is popular though too.  While searching around for stuff and looking at reviews I also found a review on Xtreme Systems on the Feser One fluid that I was  using.  It's no wonder i had all that crap ruining all my w/c gear.  Come to find out it might not have even been the Asus board's water block deteriorating that was the issue it might have been the Feser One from looking at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226632 review.  I also found a review on Mayhem dyes too and they said it was good stuff but it doesn't get as dark as I would want if I chose red.  It seems like you can't find a decent dark red when it comes to a good dye or fluid.  It all turns kindof pinkish.  I was looking at all of the fans too especially the ones that DM was talking about and the only Phobya fans the size I need (120mm) have red fan fins.  I couldn't find any Ximatek fans at all though but did find the Scythe.  I am going to have to take a day and look all over to see what the consensus is on that end of things.  Some of those fans blow and incredible amount of air but the decibels were up around 50-60 which is not all that good. 

[Dark Mantis]

Quite right my bad. Been doing a lot of watercooling recently! Yes should have been Primochill.

I had the same problem when I fell for their advertising blurb! No end of trouble with it clogging everything up and trying to clear it afterwards wasn't easy. No more Feser.

The red is always the worst colour to maintain it's looks. I can only suggest you use Primochill red tubing (which is very red) and then a red dye as well.

If you want info on the fans I will point you to a retailer I use but then you will have to find somewhere in the States to purchase them.

http://www.candccentral.co.uk/pc-case-fans-and-accessories/

[WarYur]

Regarding the coolant I use distiled water only and don't find a problem with it but as with all coolants it needs changing regularly. I normally do it about twice a year. That is another good reason for not using some expensive mixrture. I would also advise steering clear of all the coloured coolants as the colourant will come out of the suspension and start to clog the finer matrixes of your cooling blocks etc.

If you must use a colour go for Mayhems Dyes.

Hey, I found out that the Mayhem company is in major change right now and that they aren't producing anything at the moment.  I found that out by asking why they didn't have a blue dye on a couple of the online stores that I usually order from.  I even asked one  of the online stores in Germany that will send stuff to the US.  Everything I already have and am getting has to do with a blue theme and UV reactivity as well.  I don't usually do bling but I decided to do it this time.   I really would like to do the distilled water though so a question I have is  do you add anything to the water?  I was looking on frozencpu.com out of New York and they have this; http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11744/ex-liq-154/IandH_Dead-Water_Copper_Sulfate_Biocidal_PC_Coolant_Additive.html?tl=g30c103s186&id=XP8P5Rfs&mv_pc=4826  If you don't have time to look at it it is just a copper sulfate product that you add a drop per liter.  Also how about anti-corrosives or do you just use plain old distilled water alone?  I realize you did say ONLY but just need to make sure.

[Dark Mantis]

Hi again

No I often use only distilled water  as it doesn't need a biocide in as it is "poisenous" anyway unless it gets contaminated. As a matter of interest it is also non conductive whilst it is still pure and a lot of people dont realise that. If I want to use a colour I normally use a few drops of Mayhems. I had wondered why nobody seemed to have any stock at the moment.

You don't need to use an inhibitor/anti-corrosion agent as long as you only use copper (or any other single metal) on all your components as it is the difference in nobility of the metals that causes galvanic corrosion of the more base constituent. It basically can act like a battery and transfer metal between the anode and cathode.

Coppper sulphate works very well as a biocide but you must make sure that it is 100% disolved before adding it to the bulk of the liquid.

Hope this helps.

[WarYur]

Regarding the coolant I use distiled water only and don't find a problem with it but as with all coolants it needs changing regularly. I normally do it about twice a year. That is another good reason for not using some expensive mixrture. I would also advise steering clear of all the coloured coolants as the colourant will come out of the suspension and start to clog the finer matrixes of your cooling blocks etc.

If you must use a colour go for Mayhems Dyes.

Well I finally got to the bottom of Mayhems Dyes.  He closed his business but then I also found a whole bunch of people on some other forums calling the guy making that dye a scammer who is repackaging regular dyes.  You are over there so what kind of info do you have and also why did you recommend that dye in particular?  Here is the site where he says he is closing his site and it's posted on March 2011. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4772407#post4772407  Sorry for dragging  this on but I need to be sure of what I am spending my money on.

[Dark Mantis]

I really don't know about the reasoning for the defamation of his character by others but as far as I am aware he is just a hard working guy who has gone to the wall like many other UK businesses due to this government's policies.

I have just managed to get hold of a couple of extra bottles of his dye (couldn't get any UV blue  ) but it l;ooks like someone else is taking over the manufacturing and marketing of the product so hopeflly we should be able to get it again soon.

I am sure  that there must be other dyes on the market that would work well without clogging but I can only give advice on my own experiences.

[WarYur]

I really don't know about the reasoning for the defamation of his character by others but as far as I am aware he is just a hard working guy who has gone to the wall like many other UK businesses due to this government's policies.

I have just managed to get hold of a couple of extra bottles of his dye (couldn't get any UV blue  ) but it l;ooks like someone else is taking over the manufacturing and marketing of the product so hopefully we should be able to get it again soon.

I am sure  that there must be other dyes on the market that would work well without clogging but I can only give advice on my own experiences.

Thanks man!  Should have listened to you in the first place...  Ya, on xtremesystems they said at one point that he had been in a car accident so the web site was down and then found his own post saying that he was shutting it down.  Then I also had written to that German company, which at the moment I can't remember (age) who did tell me that it was changing hands as you say.  Anyway, I found that this place has some of the dyes still but it's here in the states but no blue (boo hoo)  http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g30/c103/s185/list/p1/Liquid_Cooling-Coolant_Additives-Fluid_Dyes-Page1.html?id=XP8P5Rfs&mv_pc=3539   Looks like I will be trying to sweet talk newegg.com tomorrow into taking the Blacks back and trading them for the Samsungs...     BTW, if you do see some of that Mayhems UV Blue Dye please make sure and send me the URL...  You sure must have to work your bottom off answering all these threads!   I go to a lot of forums and this is the first one where you get quick answers from a mod who is vastly knowledgeable and kind at the same time.  Very cool...   

[Dark Mantis]

Only to glad to help and stops me getting bored!

Yeah, by all means I will contact you if I manage to find some UV Blue. I even emailed the previous owner to see if he had a couple of bottles left but I haven't had an answer yet.

[WarYur]

Only to glad to help and stops me getting bored!

Yeah, by all means I will contact you if I manage to find some UV Blue. I even emailed the previous owner to see if he had a couple of bottles left but I haven't had an answer yet.

Very cool!  You must mean mlwood37...      It's so funny, before tonight (this morning?) I had never heard of him and now I know a bunch about him and what he is all about by reading around the web.  I even found his article on dyes on xtremesystems
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=259897  I'll bet that you have already read it though.

[Dark Mantis]

Yes Mick, I reall feel for the guy! He has been at it a long time and making a business of it and now has been squeezed out. Having been in a similar situation I have a lot of empathy for him. The government has a lot to answer for along with the banks, but we won't get started on that road!

[WarYur]

Yes Mick, I reall feel for the guy! He has been at it a long time and making a business of it and now has been squeezed out. Having been in a similar situation I have a lot of empathy for him. The government has a lot to answer for along with the banks, but we won't get started on that road!

LOL, you aren't alone there!  Take a look at what's happening over here.  Same stuff different country.  And no I will stop right there 'cuz I get REALLY pissed off about all that.  Didn't realize it was going on there too though. Must be the big money people controlling our governments, yes?

But, changing the subject back to w/c...  I am still reading all over the place in forums (saw you DM clear back in 2007 discussing w/c on xtremesys and what was best so now i really know you are the one to talk to.  Hopefully this is my last question.  (Ya right) Drum roll please...    Does it matter that I have mixed metals in my system?  I had to look back on the Koolance site and sure enough I have a cheapo aluminum rad in that Exos 2.5.  Never again Koolance!  Can I ask what you sold/manufactured/?  No problem if you don't want to discuss it here...

[Dark Mantis]

The short answer is yes! As I explained earlier you will be prone to galvanic corrosion if you mix metals. It really is a bad thing to do. Even though you can get agents that help minimise the harmful effects you will be fighting a losing battle. The easiest and best solution is to remove the offending part and replace it with a decent copper (brass or stainless steel are fine too) component. End of problem and no requirement of anti corrosion agents.

Yes I agree about the big money men! The power behind the throne.

[WarYur]

The short answer is yes! As I explained earlier you will be prone to galvanic corrosion if you mix metals. It really is a bad thing to do. Even though you can get agents that help minimise the harmful effects you will be fighting a losing battle. The easiest and best solution is to remove the offending part and replace it with a decent copper (brass or stainless steel are fine too) component. End of problem and no requirement of anti corrosion agents.

Yes I agree about the big money men! The power behind the throne.

Figured you would say that.  I was looking on the Koolance site and they have a copper lined rad that I guess I could replace this one with although i am not sure why they wouldn't put the copper one in their main external systems anyway.  If I ever see that "friend" of mine that got me using Koolance stuff I am going to brain him.  Well I learned a lot tonight.  Sure wish I could find some of that Mayhem UV Blue now though too.  I may have to sell something to afford the copper lined rad though.  They wanted $74 for the three fan 120mm copper lined rad.  I am now wondering why they have never said anything when i have purchased copper lined video water blocks and CPU water blocks along with the aluminum rad 3 fan kit with pump and res?  Mad we are...

[Dark Mantis]

I am afraid that is often the way these retailers are. They will sell you anything they can often, that is why it is worth hanging onto a good supplier if you find one.

Forget getting a copper lined one as there are plenty of full copper radiators for that sort of price or a little more. I am not sure of the availability in  the US but to give you an idea check this out :

http://www.candccentral.co.uk/radiators-and-grills/