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resetting cmos more frequently
« on: November 14, 2011, 06:54:13 pm »
i dont know whats going on here but i had to do this like 4 times in the last 2 days.
for some reason if i force shutdown the machine from the power button and power it back up my display would not power on.

its really hard to figure out whats going on.
i try to short circuit the "CMOS" pins to clear the CMOS but thats difficult cause theres no jumper so i end up removing the battery plus the power cable -- then i get my system to startup again.

this is on a gigabyte GA-P61-USB3-B3 (rev. 1.1) with latest bios F9.


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Re: resetting cmos more frequently
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2011, 07:46:31 pm »
Hi

Have you made sure that both BIOSes are loaded with the same version ? If not try following these instructions:

If you have a PS2 keyboard connect that instead of the USB version as it is more reliable.

From a cold start with the power to the machine switched off press the power button and then enter the BIOS by pressing Del.
 Then when you get to the main screen press F9.
 
This will bring up an extra screen which will display more information about the two BIOS versions. Assuming they are different exit the BIOS and shutdown.

Again press the power button and this time press Alt + F12 where you would normally use the Del key to enter the BIOS. You will find that then your monitor will turn black and you will see:

Press [Enter] to start copying main BIOS to backup BIOS...

When you press Enter more text will appear saying:

Writing BIOS image.... xxxKb OK

Once completed more text will show:

BIOS successfully recovered! Power off or reset system!

Do as it says. Both Main and Backup BIOS chips now store the same BIOS version. You can now reboot as normal.
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Re: resetting cmos more frequently
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2011, 03:16:14 am »
first i loaded the bios information and i got a screen with info on it.
i dont know how to recognize what data maybe incorrect?

PROCESSOR TYPE: INTEL CORE I7-2600K
PROCESSOR CUID: 000206A7
PROCESSOR SPEED: 3.50GHZ
PROCESSOR CLOCK: 100MHZ
INSTALLED MEMORY: 8148MB
MODEL NAME: P61-USB3-B3
BIOS VERSION: F9
BIOS DATE: 10/12/2011
BIOS PART NUMBER: 7A89VG0E

then when i stated the system i tried Alt+F12 however that didnt work. i keep getting the boot selection menu cause F12 is bound to that function.
do you want me to reflash the bios again?

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Re: resetting cmos more frequently
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2011, 07:29:05 am »
What did the extra screen in the BIOS tell you about the two versions of the BIOS? There should be the Main and Backup BIOS versions listed there.
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Re: resetting cmos more frequently
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2011, 07:52:26 am »
when entering the bios and pressing F9 this is all i get;

PROCESSOR TYPE: INTEL CORE I7-2600K
PROCESSOR CUID: 000206A7
PROCESSOR SPEED: 3.50GHZ
PROCESSOR CLOCK: 100MHZ
INSTALLED MEMORY: 8148MB
MODEL NAME: P61-USB3-B3
BIOS VERSION: F9
BIOS DATE: 10/12/2011
BIOS PART NUMBER: 7A89VG0E

what two versions are you referring to? the above text is all i got from that screen.

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Re: resetting cmos more frequently
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2011, 12:56:21 pm »
Hi twocows,

GIGABYTE DualBIOS™ is a patented technology that automatically recovers BIOS data when the main BIOS has crashed or failed. Featuring 2 physical BIOS ROMs integrated onboard, GIGABYTE DualBIOS™ allows quick and seamless recovery from BIOS damage or failure due to viruses or improper BIOS updating. In addition, GIGABYTE DualBIOS™ now supports 3TB+ (terabyte) hard drive booting without the need for partitioning, and enables more data storage on a single hard drive.
See here : http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3904#ov

And in Specifications about BIOS:
    2 x 32 Mbit flash
    Use of licensed AWARD BIOS
    Support for DualBIOS
    PnP 1.0a, DMI 2.0, SM BIOS 2.4, ACPI 1.0b
See here : http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3904#sp

Manual of GA-P61-USB3-B3 (rev. 1.1)
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-p61-usb3%28ds3%29-b3_e.pdf

In page 62, you read :

What is DualBIOS™?
Motherboards that support DualBIOS have two BIOS onboard, a main BIOS and a backup BIOS. Normally, the system works on the main BIOS. However, if the main BIOS is corrupted or damaged, the backup BIOS will take over on the next system boot and copy the BIOS file to the main BIOS to ensure normal system operation. For the sake of system safety, users cannot update the backup BIOS manually.

In page 7, in Layout, you vew, at right side a M_Bios and B_Bios. Near Sata Connections.

Read this article for more infos:
http://france.test.giga-byte.com/FileList/NewTech/2006_motherboard_newtech/article_04_bios_explained.htm

It is very interesting.

Add infos : in main Bios Menu , you have :
F11: Save CMOS to BIOS
F12: Load CMOS from BIOS

When you modify a parameter on Bios, save it by F11

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« Last Edit: November 15, 2011, 01:05:32 pm by Gloup_Gloup »

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Re: resetting cmos more frequently
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2011, 04:50:10 pm »
Try doing an extended clear of the CMOS. If possible leave it all night.

Remove the power cable from the mains supply and then press the power switch on the case for a few seconds just to drain any residual energy in the PSU capacitors.

Once done remove the motherboard battery overnight before replacing it.
 
Next plug back into the mains supply and boot.
 
You will now need to enter the BIOS by pressing DEL and load Optimised BIOS Defaults.

Make any other changes to the BIOS settings to suit your self like disabling the floppy drive, disabling the full screen logo and making the HDD the primary boot device and then press F10 to save and exit.
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