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TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« on: May 15, 2012, 04:00:09 pm »
Hi, so for a long time now im facing with this problem, my TMPIn2 is ovearhiting while playing, or even when i don't do nothing on the pc, sometimes its on 70temp, but when im playing its on 106temp, checked with HWMONITOR, i can remmeber playing with steady 250FPS at COD4, now its barely 125FPS, i cant be arsed playing like this anymore, playing competitvly, i need my fps back, and to be honest, i have a team that our sponsor is Gigabyte, and i should of got a new motherboard but i still didn't met with my team leader, he still doesnt have it, but i cant even change motherboard, to hard, annoying, and what ever.....
this is my full rig specs:
GA-MA78LMT-S2
GTX460
AMD PHENOM 2 X4 955 3.2GHZ
4GB RAM
Windows 64Bit.
I want to give up already.

Vezina

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Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2012, 06:09:08 pm »
Post some screens with HW monitor page.

I would look at the video card first as it can be some throttling due to overheating.

Generally speaking just clean the PC coolers and filters and see what happens.

Also make sure you don t have Antialiasing settings modified.
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Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2012, 11:22:01 am »

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Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2012, 11:54:44 am »
If i am not mistaking the 86 Celsius one may represent the CPU VRM area temperatures.
Make sure the fan to the back of the case is working properly.
Make sure that the CPU is not overclocked or overvolted as well.

That area should take ~100 Celsius just fine.

Take into account that the sensor might be red wrong although or broken.

Are you able to take a picture of the inside of the PC in the CPU area ?!

LE:

Just noticed the CPU temperatures and the fact that the CPU voltage seems to be in the lowest  CnQ state.

~50 Celsius at that voltage is quite high.Make sure that the CPU is under 63 Celsius when in load.

To observe temperatures for CPU load  download Intel Burn Test and keep the HW Monitor window along the stress test to watch real time what happens.
It may be CPU thermal throttling your issue.
The CPU cooler may not be doing it s job right for some reason.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2012, 12:05:06 pm by Vezina »
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Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2012, 10:51:58 am »
I dont think it's the CPU, I think that its the NORTHBRIDGE of the motherboard, and btw the 80C* its when im not playing, while playing its 106C so when its in this temp my FPS is unstable and barely playable

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Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2012, 11:17:15 am »
The north-bridge is in the CPU technically speaking.:)

Please take a look at the CPU cooler ,re-seat it ,change the thermal paste ,a CPU at 50 Celsius degrees in lowest CnQ state is wrong.It s at least 20 degrees Celsius over the normal temperature.It may be hitting over 70 Celsius in load.

If you are not willing to do that is your problem.
That HW monitor sensor ,in most of the boards i ve had ,shows wrong/bogus  information.

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Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2012, 02:05:10 pm »
my CPU fan is kinda new(2 monthes)
its a deep cooler gama blade

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Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2012, 01:14:31 am »
As Vezina says, remove the cooler, clean it, reapply the thermal paste (Google it if you're not sure how), and re-seat the cooler.

I use a Xigmatec Aegir cooler, and at idle temps are never more than 3-4 degrees above ambient, with stock settings. 50 degrees C at idle? That's what I get when running the Intel Burn-in test!

Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2012, 05:29:21 am »
it wont help, i had this problem before i installed this one

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Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2012, 07:17:49 am »
So are you saying that high CPU temps have always been a problem, regardless of cooler?

Looking at the picture you posted, the values which interest me are TMPN2, CPU VCORE, CPU core temperatures (which the CPU calculates rather than the board) and CPU power consumption (W). Fan speeds are meaningless unless you know the speed rating of the fans.

CPU VCORE (0.98V) and power values (18.5W) are telling us that the CPU is throttled down and at idle. At 18.5W, there's no way the CPU should be kicking out enough heat to drive the temps up. For comparison, my 1065T posts Wattages of ~55 at idle; around 3x your 955, and yet the temps are never more than a few degrees above ambient at idle.

Now look at TMPIN2. At 86 degrees C (high) it is basically confirming the CPU's own readings. Now, BOTH the CPU AND the board could be reporting false temperatures, but my money is on a cooling system problem. Heat is either not being transferred to the heat sink (poor contact between the spreader / heat sink base) or it is not being transferred from the heat sink into the ambient surroundings (improper fan operation).

So, we should investigate the cooling system.

First of all, open up the case for fan inspection. Then restore the BIOS settings to their optimised values. Boot into the BIOS and select the system health properties. Inspect the case. Are the fans spinning? If no, you've found your problem, if yes continue... Note the temperatures under system health, and also fan speeds. Changes are more important than absolute values. Let the system idle in the BIOS for 30 minutes or so. How have the temperatures changed?

Note the speeds or speed ranges of the fans. For example, my case fan runs at about ~1000 RPM, without PWM. The CPU cooler specification is between 1000~2200 RPM. The CPU fan is of most interest - how much does that value change with temperature?

If the fan speed rises significantly with no corresponding reduction / levelling off of temperature, I would begin to suspect poor contact between the cooler and the CPU heat spreader.

If the CPU temperature rises significantly without a corresponding increase in fan speed, then there is a problem either with the cooler or the board (or your installation of the cooler!).

If both the CPU temperature and fan speed increase drastically, I would begin to suspect a problem with the CPU itself, but I just can't see this scenario with the low idle wattages you posted.

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Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2012, 10:36:25 am »
woodk1d ,if you dom t know how to properly install a CPU cooler you can take the system to a PC shop and ask for help in getting the job done properly.Something seems to be wrong in your system

kosobai made an excellent reply on your matter .
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Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2012, 10:34:47 pm »
thanks for trying to helping me, but ill read these comments later, cant focus at the moment stupid neighbors around here
I have another question, if it keeps being like this, it might do somthing bad to my pc? to some parts like cpu and gpu.... i wish i could call an expert to come to my home and solve this problem, because im not that good with changin things in the pc, last time there was an a technician in my home i told him that when im playing my temps are going huge, and even in idle mode, he told me that thi s it how it should be and it doesnt need to be bothed, i think he just wanted my money and thats it, what a retard, i would pay him much more if he could be atleast honest and trying to help me.

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Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2012, 12:52:12 pm »
Ok then :
You will have to buy good thermal grease and learn to apply it.Buy Arctic Ceramic is cheap and easy to apply and clean with alcohol.
You will have to buy a good 125 W TDP CPU cooler that blows air over the CPU VRM area also.
You will have to watch tutorials for how to install a CPU cooler.

We can t teleport ourselves and help you more ,not possible yet :)
« Last Edit: May 19, 2012, 12:53:14 pm by Vezina »
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Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2012, 01:01:28 am »
I found this web-page which should give you an idea about how various heat sinks should perform under load. A decent heat sink should be able to keep CPU temps within 15 degrees of ambient or so at load.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2572&page=4

Print this out and wave it in the face of the engineer, if you choose to call him in. Personally, with all the tools at hand, I think you could easily investigate the problem yourself, if you have 2-3 hours to kill. There are tutorials for installing heat sinks on the internet, not to mention the manual your cooler came with. Do your homework!

Better still, if you have another computer available, you can always post questions on this forum if you get stuck.

Re: TMPIN2 Overheat, GA-MA78LMT-S2.
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2013, 04:27:27 pm »
I had the same heat problem on a new build.  I finally tore back into it and found that the heatsink and fan weren't seating properly on the CPU.  After a little adjustment and getting it to seat correctly, I went from 85c on the TMPIN2 down to 28c and the whole system rocks now.  The overheating was causing a lot of problems with stability.

Just my .02 worth.


 

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