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78LMT-S2P mobo & X4 965 cpu - can't boot WinXPsr3.32bit SCSI

petspy

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78LMT-S2P mobo & X4 965 cpu - can't boot WinXPsr3.32bit SCSI
« on: September 28, 2012, 12:57:04 pm »
I have a WinXP install working just fine on my old Pentium4 SCSI based HDD.

I put 2 drives in my new machine, a SCSI/IDE SSD (not AHCI, all NTFS) with

EasyBCD that will boot Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, or to that second old drive WinXP.
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit boots and runs just fine on this mobo:cpu combination.

whether the WinXP drive is alone or booting off the SSD's boot loader, it fails.
I can't even get into WinXP safe mode to install the lan/audio/mobo drivers.

is there some way I can "dumb down" this mobo:cpu using the bios settings
so it will allow this old SCSI based 32bit OS to run off that HDD properly?

I really don't want to have to re-install WinXP while this drive is on the new PC,
since the whole point of this migration was to keep that old drive install intact.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 01:17:17 pm by petspy »

autotech

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Re: 78LMT-S2P mobo & X4 965 cpu - can't boot WinXPsr3.32bit SCSI
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 01:56:42 pm »
Well you will have to do a fresh install of windows xp so windows 7 can detect it and install a bootloader so u can switch between systems. Thats the only way i know that it will work 100%. Istall newest OS first then load older one. There are multiple programs that might help you without reinstalling xp.

http://www.zbmsoft.com/

http://neosmart.net/blog/2006/easybcd-15-multidual-boot-vista-linux-mac-os-x-bsd/

http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/

MYself i prefer easy bcd i have used it and it is easy to use so i always used it. which is the second link instructions or third link for program. If you scroll down on third link you would want the free one and you just have to make an account to download it.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 02:05:14 pm by autotech »
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petspy

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Re: 78LMT-S2P mobo & X4 965 cpu - can't boot WinXPsr3.32bit SCSI
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2012, 02:22:09 pm »
thanks for all those boot loader links, but maybe i'm not being clear enough :-\
at issue is not the boot loader, it works fine on my old P4 machine and the new machine install.

at issue is getting a preexisting WinXP32 SCSI drive to boot at all, either on it's own drive as primary boot
or boot as secondary loaded off another drive while using this subject's specified mobo and cpu combination.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 02:27:04 pm by petspy »

Vezina

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Re: 78LMT-S2P mobo & X4 965 cpu - can't boot WinXPsr3.32bit SCSI
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2012, 05:48:59 pm »
Have you reinstalled XP in the new machine ?!
Have you tried to run the XP disc and do a repair install ?!

Just read the last sentence more carefully.The migration didn t work you need to repair install at least , if the XP installation disc is able to "see" your controller .It may be a BIOS limitation regarding RAID controllers number.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 05:55:06 pm by Vezina »
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Re: 78LMT-S2P mobo & X4 965 cpu - can't boot WinXPsr3.32bit SCSI
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2012, 06:00:20 pm »
you are the second person to suggest putting the old drive in the new machine, booting off the WinXP.32 install DVD and running a repair.

the drive works in the new machine perfectly, as I'm able to read write files to it from Win7.64 as they share the same NTFS standard.

RAID is disabled and this bios support up to 4 drive in the same raid channel.  I'm only using channel 0 for boot and channel 1 for other.

I'll post later if running the DVD based repair on the WinXP.32 drive works or not...  it's an SR3 install and I only have SR1 DVD  :-[
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 06:01:34 pm by petspy »

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Re: 78LMT-S2P mobo & X4 965 cpu - can't boot WinXPsr3.32bit SCSI
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2012, 06:05:42 pm »
Use nLite or XP Iso Builder to integrate SP3 and the controller drivers needed (txt ones).I ve  used Xp Iso Builder with good results ,get it from the developer site or a clean site like softpedia or similar.  
The motherboard BIOS is different ,maybe the driver in the XP installation is not finding the right path :)
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 06:06:52 pm by Vezina »
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petspy

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Re: 78LMT-S2P mobo & X4 965 cpu - can't boot WinXPsr3.32bit SCSI
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2012, 06:31:53 pm »
I should be able to find an ISO of a genuine WinXP SR3 DVD on a Torrent.

I already have my own license number, so there should be no legal issues

with using it to simply rebuild my old install to hopefully work on a new mobo.

I'll google around about nlite and such, just so i'll learn a few new tricks - thanks.

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Re: 78LMT-S2P mobo & X4 965 cpu - can't boot WinXPsr3.32bit SCSI
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2012, 06:36:53 pm »
 ;D Be prepared to make 2 CD-s after slipstreaming those drivers ,it may not work from the first time.
Study Xp Iso Builder for integration as well it saved me with some laptops locked in AHCI mode  :)

Integration of SP 3 is easy ,as torrent stuff may be infected ,you download it from the Microsoft site ,you insert the original CD in the optical drive then you run one of those 2 softwares and it does everything by itself.
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2.MSI A88X-G41 PC Mate + A8 5600K + Hyper TX 2
3.Gigabyte F2A75-D3H + A4 5300
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petspy

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Re: 78LMT-S2P mobo & X4 965 cpu - can't boot WinXPsr3.32bit SCSI
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2012, 06:57:48 pm »
ahh yes, i almost forgot microsoft has virtual copies of it's OS disks online.

but they are such a pain to locate, register for... blah blah blah.

i just find using torrent easier and know how to avoid bogus crapware.