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Solid reliable MB & CPU
« on: March 28, 2014, 03:39:41 pm »
Need to have a solid reliable PC what combination of MB & CPu and recommendations.

Need to have power for office use and a lot of email using outlook.
 Grahics card is needed or onboard if later Intel version.

Current Dell optiplex is fading fast.

Anyone got suggestions for this needs to be cost effective as well.
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Re: Solid reliable MB & CPU
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2014, 09:04:44 am »
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Re: Solid reliable MB & CPU
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2014, 01:02:54 pm »
Hi ,  ;)

So my english is not very well...

About computer: DeLL, Packard Bell, Hewlett Packard et Compaq are not a good idea.

Many equipment failure. And many deceptions.

it is preferable to mount a computer pieces by pieces.

There way to find pieces not too expensive.

The computer will last much longer time.

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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2014, 01:29:43 pm »
Hi Graceman,

As always with kind of question the first thing you need to think of is the amount you are looking to spend. The second is which, if any, of your existing components can be used in the new build.

From the description of the kind of work you will be doing you won't need to go over the top when it comes to motherboard or CPU the real choice will be either using Intel or going for an AMD APU.

You will not need to use much RAM and either a 4 gig kit or an 8 gig kit will be more than enough for you. The thing to think of here is to only use two sticks of RAM as this will be the surest way to get stability without any effort on your part.

If you can post back with which kind of system you are thinking of, OS you will be wanting to use and budget it would be easier to give you some firm answers for parts to consider.
Remember, when all else fails a cup of tea and a good swear will often help! It won't solve the problem but it will make you feel better.

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Re: Solid reliable MB & CPU
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2014, 01:40:45 pm »

About computer: DeLL, Packard Bell, Hewlett Packard et Compaq are not a good idea. Many equipment failure. And many deceptions.


I have to agree and disagree with that. Understand that these boards that they use are made by one of these MB companies.

I don't know if you ever own a Abit board. They were one of the Top selling boards on the market. Abit made a lot of those boards.

What put them down was they got some bad caps from Japan. It cost them to much money to fix them. That was the #1 problem on all of those computers.

I know that they are made cheap. But I have had some of those computers out last some of the stuff that you build.

I have always said that when you build a computer. Push the power button for the first time. You always cross your fingers and hope everything turns on.

Plus I have with Agree with absic on this. Do you want buy a complete computer or build one?
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2014, 11:19:42 pm »
Based on the OP's signature I'm pretty sure he or she has a pretty good idea of a technical spec

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The decision is only to self build or buy a brand name..............the application requirements
are probably covered well by socket 775/AMD systems five years old.

Maybe the question was more which vendor or brand perhaps?

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Re: Solid reliable MB & CPU
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2014, 10:53:14 am »
What I am after is what of the current range of MB are reliable and good value for money I am looking for best cost to performance combination.
I have to replace a dual core dell which I dislike with a passion so looking to build a new PC .
MB will dictate the case it has to be Intel for me, with on board graphics if possible.
I will fit a 16 Gb memory in two sticks as these seem to be best cost to capacity option.
The power supply will be a Corsair 400 w plus as I have good reliable experience of these haveing fitted several and built several pc with these PSU's.

It's over a year since I last built a pc so was looking for pointers, I do like Gigabyte boards but am wiling to look at others possibly based around the 3770k or 4770 k chip but willing to consider others if pointed that way.
As I said I am looking at options and all the above comment does help.
What I am not currently understanding is whats the latest/ best chipset or is it that the older types are as good like the X58a?

If its the right combination the budget will fit.
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Re: Solid reliable MB & CPU
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2014, 01:47:59 pm »
Here this one is getting great reviews. http://www.ebuyer.com/603583-ga-z87-ds3h-motherboard-ga-z87-ds3h Then put a i5 CPU on it.
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Re: Solid reliable MB & CPU
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2014, 05:16:21 pm »
in my opinion you can get preety good performance with a 775 and ddr3.you can search for a motherboard with g41 or g45 chipset,wich has a preety good incorporated graphic card for office,and a quad core cpu.as for memory modules 4gigs of ram i think will be ok,6 or 8 will pe over enough.if you usually open lots of tabs in browsers you will need a lot of ram memory.the quad core cpu will sustain a lot of applications open.

i don't know if you will find brand new quad core cpu for soket 775 but a second-hand one will be just fine.i work in a computer service and i haven't seen a dead quad or double core cpu.

anyway it will be your decision afterall if you will go for the new soket or keep with the old one :)

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Re: Solid reliable MB & CPU
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2014, 07:28:10 pm »
If you are looking to move from a Dual core to a quad core CPU then you really need to be looking at an i5 or i7 processor. But, for what you want to do with the PC I reckon an i3 dual core would do just as well.

As for motherboards I am running a GA-Z87-HD3 which I picked up for £60 and works well with my i7 processor and 16Gig of RAM.

One thing to consider, of course, is the new Z97 boards which should be appearing in the next 8 - 12 weeks (if you can hang on that long) These will be compatible with current Haswell processors but will also take the Haswell refresh (Devil's Canyon) CPU's due around the same time and if the info I have been reading on line is correct ( http://wccftech.com/motherboard-vendors-tease-upcoming-z97-motherboards-z97-g1-killer-gaz97xud5h-msi-oc-gaming-series-spotted/ ) will also support the  18Nm Broadwell chips that are due late this year/early next.
Remember, when all else fails a cup of tea and a good swear will often help! It won't solve the problem but it will make you feel better.

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Re: Solid reliable MB & CPU
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2014, 08:06:53 pm »
« Last Edit: April 02, 2014, 08:13:58 pm by dmdilks »
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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2014, 08:15:39 pm »
The info I have found on line would seem to indicate that the answer is no and that they will still use DDR3. Of course, at the moment trying to get good, reliable info is very difficult and I guess we will just have to wait and see. But my guess is that early boards will take DDR3 and when the new Broadwell CPU's come along a new line of motherboards supporting DDR4 will also appear. Now that's what you call marketing!!!
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Re: Solid reliable MB & CPU
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2014, 11:02:09 pm »
What about this set up Intel I7 4770 3.9Ghz CPU Gigabyte H81M-S2PV Motherboard 16gb DDR3 1600Mhz
The H81M-s2pv MB is one I do not know anything about any comment ?

I will be now looking at the Mb posted above so thanks for these.

 I think the Z87-ds3h is the better board. Also the GA-Z87-HD3 so will look closer at these instead of my post above.
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Re: Solid reliable MB & CPU
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2014, 05:47:24 pm »
My choice would be z87-UDH4 and i7-4770K
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Re: Solid reliable MB & CPU
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2014, 05:36:42 pm »
Starting at the processor I suggest a LGA-2011 socket i7-4820K with 3.7 Ghz stock speed 3.9 Ghz turbo

I am going to suggest going with an excellent mother board for the money The Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3
It has a lot of features found on many high end boards without the price , Solid as a brick and reliable as the you're going to get.

I suggest liquid cooling
I suggest a 700 watt power supply
I suggest a GFX card by NVIDIA say a GTX 660 Ti or above
I suggest high speed DDR3 RAM chips no less than 4 gig
I also suggest a SSD and a 7200 RPM Hard drive with no less than 1 Terabyte of capacity

I have the i7 4770 on a different computer with a better Mobo and the 4820-K smokes it so that is the only reason I do suggest the 4820-K also it is a little cheaper and has a higher stock clock speed than the 4770-K     The 4770-K is a beast don't get me wrong but why would you spend more money for less performance just because it is a newer chip?
Oh, the 4770-K is a completely different LGA-Socket so the 4770 will not fit in the 4820-K's socket is the 1150  , Good luck to you and I hope you build something nice for not too much money , for me it has always been about Maximum power for not maximum money and I believe with the list I provided, that is am extremely capable machine to get you well into the future .