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Slow display of Logo GA-X99 SOC Force

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Slow display of Logo GA-X99 SOC Force
« on: December 06, 2014, 02:46:58 pm »
I have written to tech support regarding the Slow display of Logo screen on the GA-X99 SOC Force and as expected it was suggested some hardware was being slow to initialize.
I did all stripping down to bare essentials with no change. I am using BIOS F3, the original. I have tried others without change and some instability.
Newly built system:
Crucial Ballistix Elite DDR4 32GB (4x8GB)
Crucial 512GB MX100 SSDs (x2)
Gigabyte X99-SOC Force motherboard
EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti Classified Reference Edition graphics card
EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 G2 power supply
Intel Corei7 5930K processor
Thermaltake Core V71
Thermaltake Water 3.0 ultimate

My question is, how long is it before you expect to see the logo screen?
I am not seeing it until about 20 seconds on a cold boot. Fast boot, no logo screen etc no difference.
Restart is faster.

The machine is very fast and stable in windows. Just curious about the lag.

Win 7 Pro, no overclocking.

Thank you
Dorothy

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Re: Slow display of Logo GA-X99 SOC Force
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2014, 02:03:33 am »
Well after 2 weeks of many suggestions from them, tech support sent me to this link
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8557/x99-motherboard-roundup-asus-x99-deluxe-gigabyte-x99-ud7-ud5-asrock-x99-ws-msi-x99s-sli-plus-intel-haswell-e/12
and I guess their belief 2 weeks ago that 20 seconds was unacceptable is no longer the case.

"The new X99 POST sequence involves a fair amount of DRAM training (testing and verifying speeds) which adds an abnormal amount of time to the POST sequence. This is why every motherboard at default scores above 21 seconds. Not only this, but most of these BIOSes are not fully optimized in order to save time. X99 launch was rushed due to Intel, so it might be the case that we see faster times later on in the life cycle of the platform."

Just thought I'd share in case anyone else sees this delay. I just wish I had been told this when I first asked them on 11/23.

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Re: Slow display of Logo GA-X99 SOC Force
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2014, 05:35:42 am »
Mine takes about 12 sec. I have Ga-X99-UD4 with 2-ssd, 4-600gb wd 10,000 rpm HHD. But I only have 16gb of memory.

I don't really care how long it takes to boot. That is just me.  ;) If it is less than a minute to boot into windows I'm happy. 

I'm just picking on you about the PSU don't take it in a bad way. But you could power the computer and the house with that sucker.  ;D   

I look at it at Newegg and boy they give a lot of goodies with it don't they. But it is a really nice PSU.  :P Like I said just having some fun.
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Re: Slow display of Logo GA-X99 SOC Force
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2014, 01:03:43 pm »
Haha...No offense taken...I said the same thing when I saw it. Ridiculously overkill. LOL. I won the Crucial DDR4 Giveaway in November and this all came as is. I would never have purchased that big a PSU ;=) Windows boots very fast. It's just that initial 20 second thing to get to the logo screen. Just had me concerned as all my other machines fly past that.

Dorothy

Mine takes about 12 sec. I have Ga-X99-UD4 with 2-ssd, 4-600gb wd 10,000 rpm HHD. But I only have 16gb of memory.

I don't really care how long it takes to boot. That is just me.  ;) If it is less than a minute to boot into windows I'm happy. 

I'm just picking on you about the PSU don't take it in a bad way. But you could power the computer and the house with that sucker.  ;D   

I look at it at Newegg and boy they give a lot of goodies with it don't they. But it is a really nice PSU.  :P Like I said just having some fun.

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Re: Slow display of Logo GA-X99 SOC Force
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2014, 02:48:03 pm »
If you had Windows 8.1 you would not have that. It is all in what OS you are using. Who put windows on it you or them. If you had and really what it to boot faster. You can do it in two ways. When you install windows 7 do with the UEFI DVD.

When you install windows 8.1 it always loads with windows boot manager. Now myself I don't like the windows boot manager. It takes control over your bios. Sometimes you could have a hard time getting into the bios with it.

That is what I don't like about the UEFI bios. Yes UEFI is really nice for boot times but that is it. I'm old school and I like to have control over the way it boots not windows. That is why I said I don't really care how long it takes.
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Re: Slow display of Logo GA-X99 SOC Force
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2014, 06:08:20 pm »
Hi
I have windows 8.1 on another machine just to stay current and be able to help friends and family. Not a fan, I put win 7 pro 64 bit on. Bios shows windows boot manager for the SSD drive as Boot #1 and GPT in diskpart.
is that what you mean?

I can live with it now that I know nothing is wrong. I was worried about a hardware issue.

I appreciate your comments. I am always learning something. This X99 set up brought me into a whole new world of SSD drives etc - really enjoying all of it!

If you had Windows 8.1 you would not have that. It is all in what OS you are using. Who put windows on it you or them. If you had and really what it to boot faster. You can do it in two ways. When you install windows 7 do with the UEFI DVD.

When you install windows 8.1 it always loads with windows boot manager. Now myself I don't like the windows boot manager. It takes control over your bios. Sometimes you could have a hard time getting into the bios with it.

That is what I don't like about the UEFI bios. Yes UEFI is really nice for boot times but that is it. I'm old school and I like to have control over the way it boots not windows. That is why I said I don't really care how long it takes.

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Re: Slow display of Logo GA-X99 SOC Force
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2014, 03:27:46 am »
Yes that is it. If you do some reading here you will find more than half the people that are having problems are from using windows 8.1. I think windows 7 was the last true OS that doesn't take control of things. You have that option with that last OS that you can choose which way you install it with UEFI

Yes you can basically do it with windows 8.1 too. But I think Microsoft and motherboard companies are working together on how windows controls everything you do when installing software. I would say that about 90% of the people that do use windows 8 don't know that Microsoft knows everything that you are doing.

Everything you do in your Documents & pictures are uploaded to clouds. Microsoft said they did that for a reason. It was to help stop child porn. Well they just got their hand slap for it too. It was all about peoples Privacy. They had step over the line on that one.

I have been testing windows 10 and it too is like 8 boots really fast. There are a lot things you now can do in windows 10 that you can't in 8. I don't know if you do this with win 8 but put the desktop on the toolbar. Uncheck the text & Title. Make the Icon large.
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Re: Slow display of Logo GA-X99 SOC Force
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2014, 04:10:19 am »
Thanks. Well I have that in the BIOS and the delay is what it is. I have yet to install 10. I had downloaded it to look but never got around to it. My 2 primary machines are Win 7 and I will not be adding 8.1 ever ;=)
I have to say this system is a joy to use. So fast.

Take care and thanks again for the information.

Dorothy

Yes that is it. If you do some reading here you will find more than half the people that are having problems are from using windows 8.1. I think windows 7 was the last true OS that doesn't take control of things. You have that option with that last OS that you can choose which way you install it with UEFI

Yes you can basically do it with windows 8.1 too. But I think Microsoft and motherboard companies are working together on how windows controls everything you do when installing software. I would say that about 90% of the people that do use windows 8 don't know that Microsoft knows everything that you are doing.

Everything you do in your Documents & pictures are uploaded to clouds. Microsoft said they did that for a reason. It was to help stop child porn. Well they just got their hand slap for it too. It was all about peoples Privacy. They had step over the line on that one.

I have been testing windows 10 and it too is like 8 boots really fast. There are a lot things you now can do in windows 10 that you can't in 8. I don't know if you do this with win 8 but put the desktop on the toolbar. Uncheck the text & Title. Make the Icon large.