Official GIGABYTE Forum

Z170X-Gaming 3 : Memory initialization error/PC turns on for 10 seconds then off

PC Part Picker: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/HKC4D8
Type of ram used: CMK32GX4M4A2400C14 and CMK32GX4M4A2400C14R

The Problem: The PC turns on for ~10 seconds then turns off for ~5 seconds then turns on for ~10 seconds automatically and off again etc. etc. I have let this cycle run about 5 times and it does the same thing.

Observations: For the record I have the exact same error with all the components of the PC plugged in. But at the moment the only things in the PC are the following: motherboard, cpu, psu, ram. The 24 pin is connected into the motherboard and the respective 18+10 pin is plugged into the psu. The cpu 4+4 is plugged into the motherboard and the respective 8 pin is plugged into the psu. The wire for the power switch is plugged into the motherboard. When the PC is turned on, the motherboard lights up and shows the following in the debug led: Quickly flashes through the characters FE -> 19 -> 51 and then stops on 55 for a few seconds before turning off. When I had all the components in the PC, everything attached to the motherboard seemed to power on, the gpu lit up, the case fans and cooler fans began spinning. The plastic dome for cpu socket snapped off when I installed it. The socket for the electricity in the wall is 110. The only thing plugged into or inside of the PC are the cables for the motherboard and cpu power which are going into the psu and the psu connects into the wall. As well as the power switch from the case into the motherboard. As for the troubleshooting I have done so far: Unplugged everything except cpu, motherboard, psu, ram which gave the same error, as well as when I took out the ram. Tried different ram and a single stick in each socket, and yes, I pushed all the way down until it snapped by itself. Took the cpu out to check for bent pins, there doesn't seem to be any, I have pics also to show that. I have reconnected all of the psu plugs for each component into the psu and the area on the motherboard and have pics for those too. I have tried swapping the used cables for the same extra cables in the bag that came with the psu. Took out any peripherals that were plugged into the PC. I have seen people saying they had the same 55 error for the same motherboard and they tried using 2133 ram and said it worked and changed in bios to read the ram they already had which was at a higher speed and everything worked. I'd like to not wait days to order that type of ram if possible. I have gone to every electronics place near me, best buy, frys, staples, office depot and nobody has 2133 ram that is compatible with this motherboard. Others have told me that the 2400 should work, if it doesn't it's a motherboard issue. Or so I have been told. I want to agree with them but something tells me that isn't the problem considering I have made sure many times that the motherboard is perfectly aligned with the stand offs - which it is, and the io panel. I checked this by taking it out and putting it back, which it already was aligned correctly anyway. I made sure to screw it down until it became a firm screw, not like twisting down so hard that it would bend the board. From what I have seen, it's apparently rarely to be a cpu issue. So I'm leaning towards psu and motherboard, the thing is I don't have a psu that will work as a replacement to test in this PC on me right now, well I might but it would be very difficult to get out and use in this situation for a number of reasons. I have looked around the motherboard for thermal paste and there doesn't seem to be any anywhere on it. I had an anti-static wrist strap on me the entire time as well into the psu that was plugged into the wall and off. I was also barefoot on tile so that wasn't the problem. I haven't dropped any pieces of the motherboard or really bent anything, I made sure to be very careful with it and making sure all the cables went into the respective spots, very closely noting how the cables look on the connector and where it would be connected on the motherboard. I don't really know how to troubleshoot any further other than get the old psu out, which would in itself be a several hour project of frustration in itself. I'd rather take it down to a computer shop before I do that. From what I have seen online, the next troubleshooting steps would either cost too much $ or time, and tomorrow's monday sooooo. I may just order some 2133 ram though and if this problem worst case scenario takes longer I may try that in a few days, if I haven't already RMA'd the board or PSU. Well anyway, if someone can try to decipher this code of debugs from what the motherboard is saying, that would be a great help in finding the issue. Meanwhile I will continue to try to find troubleshooting things to do and updating this post as I try new things. Btw pics: http://imgur.com/a/eu6sA and http://imgur.com/a/JtwBm

Hello,

The RAM by default will run at 2133Mhz so the higher frequency is not a problem at this stage.
What might be is the type of memory chips used / spec, for the Z170 chipset / Skylake CPUs you should go for a Corsair kit that states Intel 100 series support, not specifically X99.

Heat sink securely attached and enough thermal paste?
If not this would cause the CPU to turn off / remain off depending on the board's boot up sequence.

My PC is evolving

Hello,

The RAM by default will run at 2133Mhz so the higher frequency is not a problem at this stage.
What might be is the type of memory chips used / spec, for the Z170 chipset / Skylake CPUs you should go for a Corsair kit that states Intel 100 series support, not specifically X99.

Heat sink securely attached and enough thermal paste?
If not this would cause the CPU to turn off / remain off depending on the board's boot up sequence.
I'm not familiar with what you're talking about. And how does this apply to my problem? Shouldn't this memory be compatible? By the way, I get the same error with thermal paste and cooler on, and I'm quite sure it was on right. Btw something like this ram: http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16820233894  Would stop this error I'm having, is what you are saying?
« Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 02:24:14 pm by leon1717 »

I'm not familiar with what you're talking about. And how does this apply to my problem? Shouldn't this memory be compatible?
In relation to your first post and the advice about trying to find 2133Mhz RAM according to what others have said, I am saying that these people are wrong.

The RAM you have already runs at 2133Mhz as standard when installed into the motherboard so you do not need to buy 2133Mhz RAM.

My next point about the type of RAM is essentially about compatibility, yes the type of RAM you buy may not work if it has been optimised for a different platform. Intel have other chips / motherboards such as the LGA2011 X99 series, these are the Broadwell / Broadwell-E CPUs. Memory is not all the same, the actual memory chips being used and profile (memory timings) are not always going to offer cross platform compatibility. Check your current RAM specs on the Corsair website, they claim X99 support.

This one you linked to on newegg is ideal <States Intel 100 series support = Z170X chipset motherboards / Skylake CPUs.
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/vengeance-lpx-32gb-2x16gb-ddr4-dram-3200mhz-c16-memory-kit-black-cmk32gx4m2b3200c16

By the way, I get the same error with thermal paste and cooler on, and I'm quite sure it was on right.
The cooler should always be attached when powering the CPU, no exceptions as this can potentially kill a CPU.

Will changing the RAM solve your problem?
Assuming your CPU and motherboard are OK I would say yes.
55 = Memory initialisation error.
My PC is evolving

I'm not familiar with what you're talking about. And how does this apply to my problem? Shouldn't this memory be compatible?
In relation to your first post and the advice about trying to find 2133Mhz RAM according to what others have said, I am saying that these people are wrong.

The RAM you have already runs at 2133Mhz as standard when installed into the motherboard so you do not need to buy 2133Mhz RAM.

My next point about the type of RAM is essentially about compatibility, yes the type of RAM you buy may not work if it has been optimised for a different platform. Intel have other chips / motherboards such as the LGA2011 X99 series, these are the Broadwell / Broadwell-E CPUs. Memory is not all the same, the actual memory chips being used and profile (memory timings) are not always going to offer cross platform compatibility. Check your current RAM specs on the Corsair website, they claim X99 support.

This one you linked to on newegg is ideal <States Intel 100 series support = Z170X chipset motherboards / Skylake CPUs.
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/vengeance-lpx-32gb-2x16gb-ddr4-dram-3200mhz-c16-memory-kit-black-cmk32gx4m2b3200c16

By the way, I get the same error with thermal paste and cooler on, and I'm quite sure it was on right.
The cooler should always be attached when powering the CPU, no exceptions as this can potentially kill a CPU.

Will changing the RAM solve your problem?
Assuming your CPU and motherboard are OK I would say yes.
55 = Memory initialisation error.

Ok thanks for the help. I will return this ram to frys and get this instead http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-lpx-32gb-2x16gb-ddr4-dram-2666mhz-c16-memory-kit-black-cmk32gx4m2a2666c16 , just to make sure, I know it says intel 100 series, but this is compatible right? And from viewing the rest of my build, I should be fine as far as further compatibility goes, correct? Edit: Hm I should see if it will fit, the nhd15 is f***ing huge. it should though considering it's little indention's on the bottom.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 06:24:05 pm by leon1717 »

dmdilks

  • 3094
  • 43
  • "If it isn't broke don't fix it"
    • http://dmdcomputerservice.webs.com/
The first memory you pick is on their list of memory CMK32GX4M4A2400C14. The big problem here on these boards are a lot of them have problems with any memory faster then 2133 till you update the bios. Now this is up to you, I myself don't waste my time with faster memory.

Just buy 2133 memory because you are not going to see any speed boost going with faster memory. If you put in 2133 or 3400 there really no difference speed between the two. Plus the other memory you just put up is on the list. Just go to Gigabyte and look at the memory list for that board.

CORSAIR 4GB 1Rx8 CMK16GX4M4A2400C14 SS Samsung 14-16-16-31 1.2v v v v 2133
CORSAIR 4GB 1Rx8 CMD16GX4M4A2400C14 SS Samsung 14-16-16-31 1.2v v v v 2133
CORSAIR 8GB 2Rx8 CMK32GX4M4A2400C14 DS Samsung 14-16-16-31 1.2v v v v 2133
CORSAIR 8GB 2Rx8 CMD32GX4M4A2400C14 DS Samsung 14-16-16-31 1.2v v v v 2133
CORSAIR 16GB 2Rx8 CMK128GX4M8A2400C14 DS 14-16-16-31 1.2v v v v 2133
CORSAIR 16GB 2Rx8 CMK64GX4M4A2400C14 DS 14-16-16-31 1.2v v v v 2133
« Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 07:43:34 pm by dmdilks »
X299X Aorus Master, i9-9940x-3.30Ghz, 64gb G-Skill DDR4-2400, MSI RTX-3070 8GB, Cooler Master case, Thermal-take PSU 850w, 1-M2-NMVe SSD-512gb, 3-Pny 1TB SSD, 2-WD Raptors 1TB, Win 10 pro 64bit, Asus 35" 144Mhz Monitor.

The first memory you pick is on their list of memory CMK32GX4M4A2400C14. The big problem here on these boards are a lot of them have problems with any memory faster then 2133 till you update the bios. Now this is up to you, I myself don't waste my time with faster memory. Just buy 2133 memory because you are not going to see any speed boost going with faster memory. If you put in 2133 or 3400 there really no difference speed between the two.

CORSAIR 4GB 1Rx8 CMK16GX4M4A2400C14 SS Samsung 14-16-16-31 1.2v v v v 2133
CORSAIR 4GB 1Rx8 CMD16GX4M4A2400C14 SS Samsung 14-16-16-31 1.2v v v v 2133
CORSAIR 8GB 2Rx8 CMK32GX4M4A2400C14 DS Samsung 14-16-16-31 1.2v v v v 2133
CORSAIR 8GB 2Rx8 CMD32GX4M4A2400C14 DS Samsung 14-16-16-31 1.2v v v v 2133
CORSAIR 16GB 2Rx8 CMK128GX4M8A2400C14 DS 14-16-16-31 1.2v v v v 2133
CORSAIR 16GB 2Rx8 CMK64GX4M4A2400C14 DS 14-16-16-31 1.2v v v v 2133

And here we have another conflict. It seems this ram that I have is not supported for intel 100 series, only x99. That's why I thought of getting something that is compatible with intel 100, and what the guy above suggested. Are you sure this ram will work if I change the bios?

It is worth reading this thread, same board and memory problems which are related.
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=17262.0

The way they test does not reflect real world performance, a lot of the X99 kits  run lower timings which simply do not work on the Z170 platform unless your CPU is exceptionally lucky (memory controller).

« Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 08:16:46 pm by ElectroStingz »
My PC is evolving

dmdilks

  • 3094
  • 43
  • "If it isn't broke don't fix it"
    • http://dmdcomputerservice.webs.com/
I ran this memory on my Z170 board the same one he has. "AX4U2400W4G16-QRZ" The memory supports X99 boards. Plus it is on the list too.

AX4U2400316G16-QRZ   DDR4-2400   16GB * 4   CL16-16-16-39
X299X Aorus Master, i9-9940x-3.30Ghz, 64gb G-Skill DDR4-2400, MSI RTX-3070 8GB, Cooler Master case, Thermal-take PSU 850w, 1-M2-NMVe SSD-512gb, 3-Pny 1TB SSD, 2-WD Raptors 1TB, Win 10 pro 64bit, Asus 35" 144Mhz Monitor.

Welp. Bad news guys. Just got this: http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-dram-2666mhz-c16-memory-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2a2666c16 . From my local frys, just tried every combination possible for this ram on the slots and it doesn't work. Exact same error, everything exactly the same. Not a single thing changed that I observed. What's the problem now? motherboard?

dmdilks

  • 3094
  • 43
  • "If it isn't broke don't fix it"
    • http://dmdcomputerservice.webs.com/
Did you buy everything from Frys if you did bring it back to them let try it. I will say this again these boards and a lot of them don't like any thing faster then 2133 till you get the bios updated.

We have many many post on these problems and till you get the bios updated it will not work. Yes we have some people not have problems but a lot have had the same problem you are having.
X299X Aorus Master, i9-9940x-3.30Ghz, 64gb G-Skill DDR4-2400, MSI RTX-3070 8GB, Cooler Master case, Thermal-take PSU 850w, 1-M2-NMVe SSD-512gb, 3-Pny 1TB SSD, 2-WD Raptors 1TB, Win 10 pro 64bit, Asus 35" 144Mhz Monitor.

Just noticed something, your titled says Gaming 3 but the board you have shown in the photos is a Z170X-UD3.

I would also say get the other items checked out, CPU + Board as if these are faulty it won't matter which memory kit you go for it will always fail.

dmdilks, The memory runs a default JEDEC profile of 2133Mhz which is there to ensure maximum compatibility.
Whilst a BIOS update might solve some kind of compatibility issue, if it cannot even operate at 2133Mhz it is likely something else.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2016, 12:32:03 pm by ElectroStingz »
My PC is evolving

dmdilks

  • 3094
  • 43
  • "If it isn't broke don't fix it"
    • http://dmdcomputerservice.webs.com/
dmdilks, The memory runs a default JEDEC profile of 2133Mhz which is there to ensure maximum compatibility.
Whilst a BIOS update might solve some kind of compatibility issue, if it cannot even operate at 2133Mhz it is likely something else.

Yes that is true that the memory should run at the default setting but not on these boards. We have many people have the same problem till they put true 2133. This is just a couple of them there is many more.

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=17011.0

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=16902.0
« Last Edit: June 15, 2016, 01:10:10 pm by dmdilks »
X299X Aorus Master, i9-9940x-3.30Ghz, 64gb G-Skill DDR4-2400, MSI RTX-3070 8GB, Cooler Master case, Thermal-take PSU 850w, 1-M2-NMVe SSD-512gb, 3-Pny 1TB SSD, 2-WD Raptors 1TB, Win 10 pro 64bit, Asus 35" 144Mhz Monitor.

Yes that is true that the memory should run at the default setting but not on these boards. We have many people have the same problem till they put true 2133. This is just a couple of them there is many more.

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=17011.0

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=16902.0

You are incorrect, as long as the memory features a JEDEC SPD programmed 2133Mhz profile it will always boot at 2133Mhz.

1st link, OP changed motherboard and to quote: "Mine works fine with my replacement board now and DDR4 2133 RipJaws"

2nd link, user is stating the obvious with a slight misunderstanding to the real nature of the problem so I will explain.
There are some DDR4 kits which do not feature the 2133Mhz JEDEC SPD profile, instead the manufacturer's have gone for a 2400Mhz SPD profile which is intended mainly for the Broadwell-E CPUs. Sadly some people don't pay attention to this and buy hoping all will work in their Skylake systems.

The fact of the matter is that the Skylake CPUs do require 2133Mhz to boot up which is accomplished by manufacturers following the JEDEC guidelines. If a kit has one then there is no exception to this rule, it will always run 2133Mhz as with many of the kits by Corsair which claim 100 series support.

If this doesn't work then the problem lies elsewhere, CPU or motherboard as suggested by your 1st link and the one with angryuser > switched to different brand motherboard.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2016, 04:09:57 pm by ElectroStingz »
My PC is evolving

dmdilks

  • 3094
  • 43
  • "If it isn't broke don't fix it"
    • http://dmdcomputerservice.webs.com/
Ok what ever, I'm only going by how many threads with problems from day one. That people had with these boards with faster memory.
X299X Aorus Master, i9-9940x-3.30Ghz, 64gb G-Skill DDR4-2400, MSI RTX-3070 8GB, Cooler Master case, Thermal-take PSU 850w, 1-M2-NMVe SSD-512gb, 3-Pny 1TB SSD, 2-WD Raptors 1TB, Win 10 pro 64bit, Asus 35" 144Mhz Monitor.