help with bios/uefi setting on a ga-z170n-wifi v1

[wh173]

Auto settings use too high voltage for the 7700k (stock clocks, auto multiplier), if i set to 1.20v its still completely stable (intel diagnostic and prime) and cooler, but, the voltage doesnt go down when the cpu idles and the multiplier goes down.

How do i set a 1.20v max voltage and have it lower along with the multiplier?

Also, is the latest bios update for the Intel ME update completely safe? is it a final bios or another beta with possible issues?

Thanks in advance.

[wh173]

Ok, ive been trying to do it, but,

Even if i set the vcore back to auto, its stuck at the vcore ive set manually before in this case 1.20v, is doesnt go down with the cpu multiplier even when VID shows the cpu  is only asking for 0.689v when the clock is at 999.8mhz, vcore is still 1.188v.

blck adaptive is on, cstates are all on, speedshift is on. windows energy settings are at savings.

btw, bios is f20c


anyone? i think this board bios is faulty, i really need to sort this properly because this motherboard vrm's is s*** and even with a fan directed at it it throttles when it easily reaches 90c with a 7700k at stock so its important to keep things cooler however i can.

[shadowsports]

What BIOS Rev did you upgrade from? 

Why did you upgrade?  Were you having this issue with the previous version?

Most have stayed with F7.  VRM has ben an issue.  You can try a later BIOS if you wish.

[wh173]

Was using the same board with a 6600k before, so i needed to upgrade the bios in order to use the 7700k. with the 6600k auto settings and voltages didnt bother me as much, VRMs did reach 90 and throttled but then i added a fan directed at the VRM's to keep it lower the 90, but, the same isnt enough for the 7700k.

All these constant beta iterations for the bios get me worried about upgrading the bios again to try to fix this voltage issue, because i'm sure that if something goes wrong gigabyte wont help.

gigabyte seriously needs to address their lack of support.
 

[shadowsports]

I'll just guess that you were F4 to F7 and went to F20c to support 7700k. 

You might as well go to F20f.  You can't go backwards easily.  F20d fixes the HT issue.  F20f addresses management engine vulnerability.

There is a small (very small) chance the changes made is F20d that addressed the HT issue might mean other changes are present carried forward to F20f that could change the current VRM behavior.  Can't promise it, but I doubt it will be worse than what you have now.

I haven't heard anyone complain of a BIOS that contain the ME fix being problematic thus far.   

[wh173]

I haven't heard anyone complain of a BIOS that contain the ME fix being problematic thus far.

First, thanks for the replies,

Second, but have you looked? Ive seen a couple of people with issues already, like this guy in the last post here with the f22i bios: http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/1603/update-bios-f22f-z170-gaming


Stuff like that really worries me because i know that if s*** happens, gigabyte wont give a f***.

[shadowsports]

Greetings,
I understand your concern.  There is an inherent risk flashing any motherboard from any manufacturer.

Just because the BIOS rev in the thread you referenced ends in "f" doesn't mean its the same.  One of the guys said he was stable with the latest BIOS using a 6600k @4.5. 

Your board was designed for 6th gen CPU, yes its supports 7th gen now with BIOS upgrade.  My board was deigned for 4th gen Devils Canyon.  F8 was the last BIOS for this gen.  The F10 BIOS available was intended for 5th gen Broadwell and sure enough, people who flashed to F10 that stayed with Devils Canyon had stability issues with stepping and temps.   

When you decided to upgrade, you committed yourself.  I realize you would have to flash to gain support for the new processor, but I personally don't recommend going beta unless absolutely necessary.  The kabylake CPU only yields an 11% increase over your old 6600k.  An even smaller margin if you take your OC into consideration.  I'm not trying to say the upgrade wasn't worth it.  Going form i5 to i7 is almost always a win-win situation.  You got 4 additional threads and 700Mhz of base clock speed.  With that said, I would recommend you adjust your expectations slightly and go with a less aggressive OC.  You may never get the option of setting a target of 1.20v that follows the multiplier when it drops.  You also haven't talked about your case, what you are using for cooling and how efficient air is moving through your case. Z170 boards have issues with 7th gen CPU's.  Some more than others.   

At this point, I still recommend going to the latest BIOS available, as you have already started down this path.

[wh173]

1- I know its not the same bios, but it was just a bios iteration made to flash the new ME firmware, the concept is the same and id did give out issues, in this case i believe the guys motherboard is bricked because of the s***ty flawed gigabyte released bios update.

2- Gigabyte sent a press release announcing it would officially support 7th cpus on z170 boards, in the motherboard page it officially supports the cpu, so it has to. period. Anything less means gigabyte scammed consumers with a motherboard that does not support what it says it does, and the truth is, in fact the motherboard does not pass the vrm temp requirements for i7's, ive found reviews in which the motherboard throttled with the i7 6700k aswell. So yeah, a design flaw that gigabyte dont give a s***. (They should sent free vrm heatsinks to anyone that asks).

3-Flashing the motherboard should be absolutely safe, gigabyte made a commitment to support the new cpu generation, gigabyte went for months with nothing but that beta bios as the sole option despite the motherboard official website already had the 7700k as the cpu supported.

4- There is no overclock, the opposite actualle, i heavily undervolted which lowered temps but still not enough because of how s***ty this motherboard is.

5- Again i dont expect anything with overclocking, there is no overclock with the i7 7700k, dont argue with your own imagination. My perception as of now due to all the s*** ive found posted online with issues on gigabyte bios updates is that i probably have a 50-50% chance of bricking the motherboard and getting zero support afterwards. So good job gigabyte!


I'm done, this forum is useless and your posts are no help at all, you are barely aware of complaints about theses bioses with ME firmware on popular social media, so this exchange is useless.

Gigabyte support is s***, or better yet, non existant.

[shadowsports]

Sir.  You are not a happy camper,  That is apparent.  Very sorry your experience has been less than stellar. 

1.  First guy bricked, What you believe or fact?  Maybe he did something wrong, or had bad luck.  Second guy said he was stable.  The 'f" iteration available for your board includes the HT fix and ME update.  Might include more, but this info is not released.  Might help, might not.  Not going to speculate on it.   

2. The board does support 7th gen. This is not being disputed. 

3.  "Flashing the motherboard should be absolutely safe" - This is simply not true.  You will not get an iron clad guarantee  from ANY manufacturer.  Motherboard, router, mobile device, etc.  There is a risk, period and the end user accepts this responsibility when they decide to upgrade.  Asus, MSI, AsRock, EVGA, etc...  make the same claims.   

4.  No overclock, understand.  Got it. You have simply moved from a 6600k to a 7700k and have attempted to severely undervolt to lower VRM temps.  Didn't work.  Your system, your CPU and environment  While I'm sure all of this is completely clear to you, your first two posts didn't make the issue completely clear.  It wasn't until I asked that you provided more detail.  6600K >7700K.  I asked you about case and air movement.  And you're only response is gigabyte is (!@%%^^). 

5.  I assumed your excessive VRM temps was due to OC.  Wrong of me.  Back to item #3.  Flashing is risky.  I've had many successful flashes.  Had some failures too.  Doesn't keep me from performing when there is a good reason to upgrade. 

One thing is very clear.  You are frustrated.  I've tried to alay some of these concerns with recommendations you feel are unhelpful and useless.  Are you having any stability issues?  Is the CPU being throttled due to heat? Or are you anticipating problems that haven't occurred?   You see to have concluded, flashing is too risky to try, your MB is defective and gigabyte is not going to help.  Consider opening a ticket with support.  You might find that gigabyte will try and assist you.  But you won't know if you don't try.  Happy Holidays