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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #135 on: October 21, 2010, 08:03:41 am »
If I disable eist wont my cpu motor at full spec all the time? The temps will be up too

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #136 on: October 21, 2010, 08:10:41 am »
Yes this is the downside to the fix. Just try disabling C1E first you may not need to disable EIST also. ;)
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #137 on: October 21, 2010, 08:43:34 am »
It might be my ears...most of the time I hear nothing...sometimes I think it's starting to whine quietly. Anyway...I think it's ok

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #138 on: October 21, 2010, 08:49:15 am »
It could be just a fan bearing starting to whine a little. You will soon know if it becomes more pronounced. ;)
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #139 on: October 21, 2010, 01:46:40 pm »
Hello people - sorry to hear about the latest development with the whining noise. Have you checked out the other thread "Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises"?

Dark Mantis - latest update - after packing up the motherboard last night and discovering the scratch/dent on the processor IHS from the defective Intel cooler, I had another look at the processor this morning. Looking at the underside of the processor, one thing sprung out and struck me, most of the copper pads had marks pretty much dead centre from the pins, however one entire quadrant of the pads, all had marks close to or on the edges of the pads, some of them possibly even off the pads. Plus there were about 5 pads with no marks on them at all. This has got me thinking there might be an issue with the 1366 sockets. If the pins are not correctly aligned with the processor or move around when heated up, this might explain the issues some of us are having.

These appear to be manufactured by FoxConn - would this be the same company recently in the news for over working its workers? Has anyone else reported any issues with pin alignment - other than bent pins?
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #140 on: October 21, 2010, 02:12:48 pm »
You are quite right about the marks on the lands(the copper plates) on the reverse of the CPU. They should all be marked fairly centrally and is another test we use to check the pins if unsure.If any are unmarked then that is a problem certainly. If there is a whole area of unmaked lands then it would suggest to me that the socket was not level, maybe not inserted evenly on manufacture. It would definitely need more close inspection. Most of the sockets used by most motherboard companies are made by FoxConn.
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #141 on: October 21, 2010, 05:49:33 pm »
There was only one cluster of 3 unmarked pads. One whole quadrant (further away) had misaligned pins. Maybe I just got a socket from a bad batch or there was an issue soldering the socket onto the board? Courier has picked up the board and RAM earlier today - now I have to sit back and wait...

Q: what tools do tech support use to verify S1366 pin alignments? And can these tools realign the pins?
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #142 on: October 21, 2010, 06:05:01 pm »
To be perfectly honest I don't know what tools they use, I have never been to the service centre. We are only lowly users like yourself and not invited into the holy of holys. :o
Most techs use the same tools as everyone else to be fair. It's not the tools it's knowing what to do with them that counts ;) They can straighten pins exactly the same way we would...very carefully! They also have the option of replacing the socket.
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #143 on: October 22, 2010, 12:46:07 am »
Hello people - sorry to hear about the latest development with the whining noise. Have you checked out the other thread "Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises"?

Yeah sure, I read that. I think I'm fooling myself a little bit though...I haven't heard any suspicious noise for a fair while now. Seems ok. Almost time to put the side panel back on and get on with recording music.

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #144 on: October 22, 2010, 09:01:15 am »
Yes if you listen hard and long enough you can fool yourself into hearing anything ;)
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #145 on: October 23, 2010, 02:14:41 am »
...there's these voices in my head...telling me to burn things....

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #146 on: October 23, 2010, 10:00:18 am »
Oh that's ok then as mine say the same so they must be right ;D
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #147 on: October 25, 2010, 02:35:42 pm »
Latest update...

Left PC plugged in to mains overnight with latest bios FC2 and.... still BSOD on cold start up this morning  ??? I ran MemTest86 straight away and was getting 300+ errors in the first 5 secs!! I rebooted and set the DRAM v from 1.5v to 1.65v and reran - suddenly no errors. Switched back to 1.5v from 1.65v and still no errors. It is not the DRAM voltage - I am running at 1066 which according to the SPD spec runs at 1.5v.

I am stumped... it has to be either the memory or the motherboard. This is bizarre. Is there anyone else out there using TR3X6G1600C9 with the GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0?

Next steps:
a) RMA the memory?
b) RMA the motherboard?
c) RMA both?

I am inclined to think it is the motherboard/bios - the reason for this is that the memory works fine with bios FA. I will reflash to FA and leave off overnight and see if thiis confirms it.

Dark Mantis - what do you suggest? I still have not had a reply from Gigabyte.

Google has sent me this way as I have almost exactly the same issues that you do.

My specs are as follows
OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU Intel Core i7 920 D0 Quad Core CPU 2.66GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
Memory Corsair TR3X6G1333C9
Graphics Card XFX GeForce 9800 GT OC 512MB GDDR3 PCI-Express
PSU 650W Corsair CMPSU-650TX, single 12
Hard Drives RealSSD C300 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s
RAM:
Corsair XMS3 6GB CTR3X6G1333C9
and I'm currently running 3x2gb of Corsair XMS3 CM3X2G1600C9

As you can see from my thread here I've been having plenty of issues!
http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/115685-memory_managment-issues.html#post994148
and
http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89780

Essentially running the FA BIOS I had no BSOD issues, but had the missing memory issues. Update to FB and I have all 6gb but loads of BSOD issues. Thought it could have been the BIOS, played around with all manner of settings, got nowhere. Then put everything back to Failsafe Defaults and had a day of good running.
Next cold boot, the system POSTs fine and gets to the Loading Windows screen and will blue screen 100% of the time. The only way I can get the system to boot is to run the Startup repair from my Windows 7 ISO that I run off a multi boot USB stick. Running Startup Repair from the SSD doesn't seem to work.

I'm starting to suspect the SSD is now corrupt and haven't had time to check it. However, I'm also very tempted to RMA the board, as it doesn't seem fit for purpose and I seem to have read a huge amount online about these boards having issues. Trouble is, I'm not sure which MoBo to replace it with.

FunkyErn: How are you getting on with your RMA?
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #148 on: October 25, 2010, 02:40:42 pm »
Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.

So in a nutshell the board is ok as it runs fine with FA BIOS(even though it doesn't show all memory) but the BIOS is badly written as it BSODs on FB BIOS. I would suggest a question to GGTS about rewriting the BIOS is called for.
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #149 on: October 25, 2010, 02:46:00 pm »
Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.

So in a nutshell the board is ok as it runs fine with FA BIOS(even though it doesn't show all memory) but the BIOS is badly written as it BSODs on FB BIOS. I would suggest a question to GGTS about rewriting the BIOS is called for.

Your nutshelll is indeed correct. I'd be interested to have a look at the pins again, as the post above seems to suggest that they socket could be offset. I can't do this at the moment as I'm away from home, but will do once I'm back.

Forgive my ignorance, but is GGTS the tech support part of the website?
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