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Re: GIGABYTE+ AMD very disappointing With support for RAID 0 with SSD
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2010, 08:58:41 pm »
"(include chipset \ sata raid driver[/quote]
Version  1.17.55.0  GIGABYTE SATA2 Preinstall driver (For AHCI / RAID Mode)
I installed after installing  WIN 7 64"

Your not using the Gigabyte SATA 2 controller right. So why enable it in the bios or install a RAID driver for it? If you want it enabled run it in IDE mode or AHCI mode not RAID mode.

" I USE  AMD SATA ports  SATA 0 AND 1     4 AND 5"

As i said before have you tried staggering the RAID drives on SATA ports 0 and 2. Some boards/chipsets share bandwidth between certain SATA ports. The only way to know for sure is to try.

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There is a beta bios "FEB" that has updates for a new  RAID ROM

Where  ? I have the latest BIOS
FROM THE WEB GIGABYTE"

What bios are you using? You say the latest if so you must already be running FEB? If not its worth a shot IMO. It's the first bios listed in the link you posted for your board.

Bill
« Last Edit: October 16, 2010, 08:59:39 pm by Wonderwrench »
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Re: GIGABYTE+ AMD very disappointing With support for RAID 0 with SSD
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2010, 05:55:38 am »
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Your not using the Gigabyte SATA 2 controller right. So why enable it in the bios or install a RAID driver for it? If you want it enabled run it in IDE mode or AHCI mode not RAID mode.

i  try with RAID MODE  OR IDE   MODE
Does not change anything
Why did you write  IDE  OR AHCI   MODE  ?

bios -  FEB

bios
ONCHIP  SATA CONTROLLER  ( ENABLED )
ONCHIP  SATA  TYPE  ( raid )
ONCHIP  SATA port  4/5 type ( as sata type )
ONCHIP  SATA RAID 5  SUPPORT ( disabled )
ONCHIP SATA 3.0 SUPPORT   ( ENABLED )
ONBOARD  GSATA/IDE  CTRL MODE  ( RAID / IDE )
ONBOARD  SATA/IDE  CTRL MODE  ( RAID / IDE )

BOB
something wrong with this configuration?
If not what?
Why?
And how I knew it was getting right ?

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Your not using the Gigabyte SATA 2 controller right. So why enable it in the bios or install a RAID driver for it? If you want it enabled run it in IDE mode or AHCI mode not RAID mode.
What to change and where? BIOS
Attached you BIOS  commands  ( above )
« Last Edit: October 17, 2010, 06:35:41 am by oppp7 »

Re: GIGABYTE+ AMD very disappointing With support for RAID 0 with SSD
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2010, 08:16:58 am »
"i  try with RAID MODE  OR IDE   MODE
Does not change anything
Why did you write  IDE  OR AHCI   MODE  ?"

OK what are you using the Gigabyte SATA controller ports 6 and 7 for? nothing correct. Changing its mode makes no difference so if your not using it so you might as well disable it to increase bios post speed.

bios
ONCHIP  SATA CONTROLLER  ( ENABLED ) correct
ONCHIP  SATA  TYPE  ( raid )  correct
ONCHIP  SATA port  4/5 type ( as sata type ) OK
ONCHIP  SATA RAID 5  SUPPORT ( disabled )  correct
ONCHIP SATA 3.0 SUPPORT   ( ENABLED )  OK , what happens to your RAID performance if you disable this function? Your drives are only SATA 2 anyway.
ONBOARD  GSATA/IDE  CTRL MODE  ( RAID / IDE ) ? options should be enabled or disabled. Disable it as your not using it.
ONBOARD  SATA/IDE  CTRL MODE  ( RAID / IDE ) ? options should be IDE or AHCI. Makes no difference if its disabled above.

Did you test with your drives on SATA ports 0 and 2 to rule out the possibility that ports 0 and 1 share bandwidth?

You say you have the FEB bios so your good there.

Is device manager clean? you never answered this question previously. No unknown devices etc? Can you post a screen shot?
You stated this in a previous post.

"When I installed WIN 7 64
He did not ask me to install  BOOTDRV

AMD SATA RAID Driver (Preinstall driver, press F6 during Windows * setup to read from floppy)

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3420#dl

 Sata raid driver
Not installed
 IN Device Manager
How do I install  THAT"

Did you install the "AMD Chipset Driver (include chipset \ sata raid driver" from Gigabytes website?
If device manager is clean and you are using the latest drivers available the only other things I can think of are. What strip size are you using
on your RAID. Normally the default is 128k and on magnetic drives this works well. From the research I have done it may not be the best setting
for SSD's. The only way to know for sure is to try different sizes which is not so easy to do. Have you tried testing with Cool and Quiet and C1E disabled in the bios. And windows power management set to "High Performance"?

I hate to say it but if you have tried all of the above and device manager is clean I do not think there is much you can do short of getting an expensive add in card or changing over to an Intel platform.

BTW I have never liked RAID 0 as the risk for data loss is just to high. Even  RAID 1 or 5  is more work than its worth. I'd rather Backup to an external drive or network drive. Its more manual work but you know what you have got.

Bill


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Re: GIGABYTE+ AMD very disappointing With support for RAID 0 with SSD
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2010, 09:18:13 am »
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OK what are you using the Gigabyte SATA controller ports 6 and 7 for?
I wrote a couple of times I use - SATA 0 AND 1
Or SATA 4 AND 5
How do you write to me, "Gigabyte SATA controller ports 6 and 7"???
ON Gigabyte SATA controller ports 6 and 7 I CAN'T Install WIN 7

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so you might as well disable it to increase bios post speed.
disable what ?
Where in Bios  ?
What is the connection to RAID 0
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/gigabyte_ga890gpa_ud3h/images/32.htm
WHAT TO disable  IN THE Picture?

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Is device manager clean? you never answered this question previously. No unknown devices etc? Can you post a screen shot?
You stated this in a previous post.

device manager clean?
Of what?
No unknown devices etc?
Of what?
Can you post a screen shot?
Of what screen shot  ?

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Did you install the "AMD Chipset Driver (include chipset \ sata raid driver
i  install  AMD Chipset Driver (include chipset \ sata raid driver)

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What strip size are you using
on your RAID. Normally the default is 128k
the default  in my bios is 64 k  
i try 128 k  it's  Slow

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Have you tried testing with Cool and Quiet and C1E disabled in the bios
i  disabled in the bios  ( c1e )   AND   Cool and Quiet
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And windows power management set to "High Performance"?
I only have a balanced or power saving
"High Performance" disappeared from my  computer
so I aimed to  balanced
( Without the possibility of shutting down a computer screen  or shutting down the computer)

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I hate to say it but if you have tried all of the above and device manager is clean I do not think there is much you can do short of getting an expensive add in card or changing over to an Intel platform.
what above and device manager is clean  ???
what card or changing over to an Intel platform  ???
Do not understand what you write ???


I TRY THE The system with your configuration


i disabled  ONCHIP SATA 3.0 SUPPORT
i disabled  ONBOARD  GSATA/IDE  CTRL MODE

I got this result
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3259/644v.png

before
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9388/642y.png

Minimum improvement of 10-15 MB read

I TEST  drives on SATA ports 0 and 2
No change
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2406/sata0and2v564.png



« Last Edit: October 17, 2010, 10:10:02 am by oppp7 »

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Re: GIGABYTE+ AMD very disappointing With support for RAID 0 with SSD
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2010, 12:01:22 pm »
Install drivers and Raid Utility from here.
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx
then play about with any settings you can find.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2010, 12:02:05 pm by Peteruk »

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Re: GIGABYTE+ AMD very disappointing With support for RAID 0 with SSD
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2010, 12:53:07 pm »
Install drivers and Raid Utility from here.
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx
then play about with any settings you can find.

 As I wrote the first page
I did it
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atalyst driver  10.9 +South Bridge Driver  +Raid Driver for Windows 7  FROM THIS WEB
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/integrated-win7-64.aspx
HD 4290 

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Re: GIGABYTE+ AMD very disappointing With support for RAID 0 with SSD
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2010, 04:40:38 pm »
And have you been through the RAID Utility that NCQ, write cache are enabled?
« Last Edit: October 17, 2010, 04:42:09 pm by Peteruk »

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Re: GIGABYTE+ AMD very disappointing With support for RAID 0 with SSD
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2010, 05:27:46 pm »
And have you been through the RAID Utility that NCQ, write cache are enabled?

what is RAID Utility that NCQ  ???
write cache are enabled???

how i do it in AMD ???

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« Last Edit: October 18, 2010, 08:52:46 am by oppp7 »

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Re: GIGABYTE+ AMD very disappointing With support for RAID 0 with SSD
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2010, 09:58:15 pm »
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There is a beta bios "FEB" that has updates for a new  RAID ROM

Where  ? I have the latest BIOS
FROM THE WEB GIGABYTE

I've updated at 16.10 to the BIOS to "FEB"
Now I saw a new BIOS  " FE" name and  NO changed the date

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/8318/52844000.png

THIS  BIOS NOT WORK GOOD  WITH THE Motherboard 

Someone can write  to manufacturer  gigabyte  and Tell them
That something changed the BIOS  TO Wrong bios updates  ???