Special tools for GA-G41M-ES2L moitoring?

[ijpom]

Hi all,

Just set-up this new machine - details should be in the signature - and I'm having some problems finding all the tools I need to safely OC the next step.

What I really want is something to tell me the fan speed of my CPU.
But it would be nice if a couple of tools would do everything (temp, load, speed, multipliers, timings, etc).

I read through the link below and am familiar with CPU-Z and Speed Fan from working with previous machines ).
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,420.0.html

My litany of complaints/observations are:
CPU-Z v1.55 crashes my machine (so bad the front power and reset buttons don't work!), but works with 3 other machines just fine. It used to give me graphical temps, volts and the fan speeds that I have been looking for.

ET6 says i have about 1200 RPM on the stock cooler, which is about correct, but I can't make this change under load. (BIOS is set to enable the automatic fan control function for the 4 pin CPU fan, to the best of my knowledge).
Everest sometimes tells me I have a fan, some times it doesn't show one. Restarting Everest doesn't change that.

ET6 says i have 20C on my CPU and does not change under load 0% to 100%. Core Temp / Real Temp say 40C to 70C and changing under load.
Everest has this same 20C reading, and is also unchanging.
I've even seen that 20C in the BIOS system status page, but not always.

Core Temp says I have VID of 1.2875v. Three other applications say 1.34V. It's set to 'auto' in bios.

CPU-Z says my Bus Speed is 266Mhz, and that I'm alternating between 6 and 12.5x multiplier. Core speed is 1596 to 3333Mhz. That's how it's set.
Core Temp frequency is not close to either of those settings and thinks the multiplier is 8, 9, 9.5, 10 or 10.5 at different times.
Everest thinks the clock speed of 3327 is correct all the time, but says I have a multiplier of 4.5 or 9, so calculates out a funky FSB frequency.
ET6 gets this one right like CPU-Z.

The RAM timing are possibly 5-4-4-15 @ 2.0V according to the manufacturer. I know that means nothing until I tune it, but the SPD is 6-6-6-18-24 at 400Mhz with 1.8V. I have set 2.0V, confirmed 2.04V from BIOS and CPU-Z, and set 2.66c for RAM multiplier (which BIOS calculates out as 711 -  an under clock of my 800Mhz RAM is my understanding).
CPU-Z says I get 6-6-6-18-46-2T. I don't know what the tRFC will have much effect, but 46 seems like it came from nowhere.


The only thing that I'm really looking for is a TRUE fan speed display or better knowledge how I have failed to set the AUTO speed up correctly.
Maybe someone will also tell me that I've got all the wrong tools for this board, and I should just use XYZ and ABC, as they work perfectly?!?

Cheers if you have read all the way up to this point.  

[Dark Mantis]

Hi
I think the first thing anyone will want to know is what OS you are running.

[ijpom]

Hi Dark Mantis,
I running Windows XP sp3 and all updates that are current.

[Dark Mantis]

I would recommend that you try running your CPU fan especially directly off the power supply rather than the motherboard headers. You don't say what cooler you are using but I guess it is something fairly substantial and it is not unknown for damage to the motherboard to occur from the current draw to supply the fans. This will of course mean that the fans will run at full speed but if you are using something like the Noctua series then they are still quiet and you know that you are getting full cooling ability all the time. You could of course install a fan controller which would enable manual control of the fans and provide speed information.

[ijpom]

Unfortunately I'm still on the stock cooling solution, as the mild heat-pipe solution I have in hand (ZeroTherm CF800) does not fit on the board in any orientation - it is too low for the close memory, NB and voltage regular components.
It is plugged into the MB directly and does not appear to change speed. That's my beef presently.

I do have a monster 120mm fan + heat pipe solution on the way.
Do you suggest that a regular 120mm fan is too much for a MB 4 pin socket? I heard 4 Watt's maximum for those sockets some where, but I guess it's easy to route 12V power around the socket and still, plug in the remaining controls (speed sense and speed setting, pins 3 and 4).

[Dark Mantis]

The ZeroTherm wouldn't allow control of it's speed anyway as it's not a PWM fan. It is only a three wire connection. Personally I think that it is prudent to run your new HSF when it comes from the PSU directly. If you want to customise it to allow for speed control as well...fine. What HSF have you bought to replace it?

[ijpom]

Although it isn't a premium brand, I thought the performance of the Kingwin XT-1264 was worth the price that it's on offer for.
My previous experience with direct contact heat pipes was a good one (the OCZ Vendetta, first version with the 92mm fan).

Subsequent to this review it's been bettered by a bunch of HSF's.
 http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2420&page=5
.....but its still is within a few degrees of the best performers tested.

I'll take a picture once I install it (expected on the 2nd of Nov.) and show a before/after view of the real estate taken up by it.

[Dark Mantis]

Yes the Kingwin is a good cooler but it is not anywhere near the physical size of the Noctua D14. That thing is a monster