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P55 series: Gigabyte SATA controller and Native IDE

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P55 series: Gigabyte SATA controller and Native IDE
« on: November 27, 2010, 12:41:51 pm »
If you use the Gigabyte SATA controller - either instead of or in addition to the Intel H55 SATA controller - and you intend to operate in only Native IDE mode (and therefore never use RAID or AHCI), do you still need to download and install the Gigabyte SATA2 Driver?

As an aside, on the website there are two samples of this driver for download, and confusingly they've been given the same version number. The driver to which I'm aluding is NOT the F6 Pre-install one.

So, what I'm basically asking is whether, to just run the Gigabyte SATA controller in IDE mode, does a driver for it have to be installed? Neither the website nor my user manual makes this 100% clear.

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Re: P55 series: Gigabyte SATA controller and Native IDE
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2010, 01:37:50 pm »
To be perfectly honest I also am not sure but I would have thought that you would still have to load a driver for the chip to work properly.
By the way Native IDE is not the same as IDE mode.
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Re: P55 series: Gigabyte SATA controller and Native IDE
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2010, 10:52:42 am »
Yeh, I kinda got the feeling, from reading the user manual, that Native IDE was not the same as IDE. So, what IS the difference, then?

As for the driver, well, I find it all a bit confusing. What you say makes sense but, on the hand, no driver is required for the Intel SATA controller (the H55 chip), so one would have thought no driver would also be needed for the Gigabyte controller, when operating in IDE mode.

I prefer to install all chipset drivers that I'm ever likely to want just after installing the OS and its service pack, and to keep that to the minimum. I've no particular plan at present for using the Gigabyte chip for SATA but in the coming weeks and months I might still want to experiment a little with its usage. From my experience with mobos from other manufacturers, it's always best to install chipset drivers in that slot between effectively the OS being installed and the rest of one's software being loaded. So, in respect of this Gigabyte SATA driver, I've had it in mind to initially enable the Gigabyte SATA chip in the BIOS, load its driver, then disable the chip. That'd mean that, later on, if I want or need to use that chip, all I'll then need do is to re-enable it via the BIOS. Does that all make sense?

Addendum: The handling of interrupt requests has always seemed a bit of a black art to me, but my understanding is that Legacy IDE is for OSs like Windows ME and Windows 98, where the IDE ports would be required to use specific, non-shared IRQs. Native IDE is for newer OSs like Windows XP, Vista and 7, where IRQs are shareable. So, given that I'll be using Windows XP and I don't wish to use RAID or AHCI, my assumption has been to set up the BIOS in this regard as specifically Native IDE. In particular, I've presumed that, for the Intel controller, I should choose "IDE" and then enable "Native IDE" mode, and for the Gigabyte controller, I should choose "IDE", rather than "RAID/IDE" or "AHCI". Right?
« Last Edit: November 28, 2010, 11:48:34 am by forumjoe »

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Re: P55 series: Gigabyte SATA controller and Native IDE
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2010, 02:17:14 pm »
As you have quite rightly found out now the Native IDE is more about the way the data is accessed and is only available on newer OSes. It ties in with Command Queueing. I would say your decision on the mode for the controllers should be right for you.
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Re: P55 series: Gigabyte SATA controller and Native IDE
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2010, 04:21:30 pm »
It's reassuring that you agree with me. I have to confess I'm a newbie with regard to SATA and am still finding my way around.

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Re: P55 series: Gigabyte SATA controller and Native IDE
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2010, 04:35:48 pm »
That's how we all learn. In this game there is always something new coming out that you have to get your head around but it stops you getting board. ;)
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Re: P55 series: Gigabyte SATA controller and Native IDE
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2010, 11:12:02 am »
I think you mean "bored", don't you? Heh, heh, heh.

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Re: P55 series: Gigabyte SATA controller and Native IDE
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 11:16:08 am »
I think you mean "bored", don't you? Heh, heh, heh.

Yes, quite right! Although with all this cold weather I'm not sure if I didn't get it right first time round.
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Re: P55 series: Gigabyte SATA controller and Native IDE
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2010, 11:10:13 am »
That driver is only needed if you want to use RAID/AHCI on those GSATA ports

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Re: P55 series: Gigabyte SATA controller and Native IDE
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2010, 03:37:22 pm »
By that, do you mean that, if I don't bother to install that GSATA driver, I can still use the GSATA ports on the mobo in Native IDE mode?