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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2011, 05:19:01 pm »
Sure, Well good luck.
And remember to take a good range of music with you and music that you are familiar with.

Your favorite classical track.
Your favorite acoustic track.
Your favorite other styles.

Also, remember when testing to listen at different volumes, as each speaker will respond to music differently at different volumes.
Watch out for non musical speaker distortions at any volume level.

Also, I would not rule out normal Hi Fi speakers, active or when matched with an appropriate amplifier.
Many amplifiers also offer multi sources, which means you can plug not only your PC but many other sources as well.
I personally favor this method for Hi Fi audio.
Although, space is a consideration.

Also, keep in mind that speakers with USB built in probably do not offer you that much extra, however, some, like the ones mentioned, have an audio card built into them which means that you do not need an additional audio card.

I believe that those MM-1 speakers also included some on board DSP chips, which add extra processing power to a built in sound effect unit built into the speakers.

This I guess gives the user extra sound effect options such as extra EQ or reverb settings on top of the natural audio.

Another company that may be worth considering is Acoustic Energy. They have quiet a large range of speakers, some passive and some active.

http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/

Good Luck! ::)

Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2011, 05:44:22 pm »
Just a quick note regarding the differences between speakers for recreational listing, for making pro recordings and for mixing pro recordings,
here are a couple of truths about speakers that most people, including most musicians and some audio engineers do not know.

Most Hi Fi speakers are designed to discolor the sound in an enhancing way (or to the best of their ability within their given parameters/budget).

Studio Monitor speakers are designed to be as accurate or as neutral as possible in order to show as much detail of the audio field and its elements as possible. This is important  as the speakers will show up imperfections or sounds that may not normally when listening using speakers that mask the audio using built in eq or fx due to their construction.

An example where this is particularly handy is when an audio engineer is monitoring a recording of a musical instrument or vocalist in the studio. If for example he is recording an acoustic guitarist that has a feint buzz in one of the strings when he plays a certain chord,
If the engineer is using speakers that do not pick up this detail, and he or his client does not want that buzz to be in the recordings,
he is then left with a bad recording due to the speakers that he is using. This buzz may have been picked up if he was using better quality and more accurate / neutral studio monitors.

Now, once audio has been recorded in this manner, there is little that can be done. Or, what can be done often takes a lot of time and effort. All this time and effort could have been saved by using the right type of speakers.

Now, many people use their monitoring speakers for mixing with.
Where this may be due to low budgets. Many pro mix engineers will recommend that engineers use a completely different type of speaker than the ones that they use to record (track) with.

As, during the mixing process, a mix engineer isn't looking for accurate sounding speakers that pick up every tiny bit of detail.
This is because the recordings have already been made and are now ready to be polished.
The mix engineer needs speakers that simulate speakers that the end product (the music) will be listened to on.

A mix engineer will generally have a favorite pair of speakers that simulate a BAD quality and inaccurate set of Hi Fi speakers.
This is because if the engineer is able to make the music sound good on BAD sounding speakers, the music will then sound awesome on speakers that are of a higher quality. The now discontinued Yamaha NS10's were an industry standard, not because they were the most accurate speakers in the world, but because they sounded like a BAD Hi FI.

This is why engineering using highly accurate and highly expensive monitors is generally a bad idea.

Most studio's will have several pairs of speakers. Some for tracking (recording). some for mixing, and some Hi Fi ones for testing out a mix.
 
Hope this helps.  8)

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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2011, 08:17:34 pm »
Well I for one found it all very enlightening and interesting. I will have to go and dig those good quality speakers out of the storeroom. 8)
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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2011, 08:40:46 am »
DM dont go searching all your old speakers , you may get lost in the basement, Go and buy yourself some new speakers..Here's a set for a gut of your wealth ::)       http://www.hificorner.co.uk/bandw-nautilus-speakers.html
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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2011, 08:44:52 am »
Hi Jannie,

Actually I have seen them before but cant really imagine that I would be able to appreciate the difference. Besides there's only two of them!! ;D
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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2011, 09:58:13 am »
Well I just watched a small reveiw and they can run without your soundcard, the mind boggles as to why i bought a soundcard
Cheers Dave ???
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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2011, 10:01:42 am »
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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2011, 10:09:01 am »
Well they look good Jannie and the reviewer semed to think they were the mutt's nuts! Shame he didn't let us hear them even though obviously it would only be as good as your own audio output.
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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2011, 10:16:37 am »
yeh i would been nice to hear.. ;D..this takes me back to the first time i bought a grundig VHS and they gave you a tape to show you how to operate it...now ths clever...hahahahh
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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2011, 11:09:01 am »
Hi Problemo..yes the acoustic energy speakers are very nice,,,gosh how the hi-fi world has changed since the 1960s...I still run my Gale 401 speakers which still sound nice, although they needed a good 100watts rms ro hear them,and I still have my Technics SU9600 beast which gave out 180watts a channel.....http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=technics+su9600&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=D_A2TbKzMIOqhAeq7-n-Ag&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDIQsAQwAg&biw=1016&bih=506
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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2011, 11:33:22 pm »
Well I just watched a small reveiw and they can run without your soundcard, the mind boggles as to why i bought a soundcard
Cheers Dave ???

Unless they have some really nice electronics in them an external soundcard of reasonable quality will blow them away so it's hardly money wasted. Rule of thumb is to have everything of similar quality or you'll be held back by the worst component. It doesn't matter how good your speakers are if sound quality is shot before it even reaches them.

Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2011, 02:57:00 am »
Well I just watched a small reveiw and they can run without your soundcard, the mind boggles as to why i bought a soundcard
Cheers Dave ???

Unless they have some really nice electronics in them an external soundcard of reasonable quality will blow them away so it's hardly money wasted. Rule of thumb is to have everything of similar quality or you'll be held back by the worst component. It doesn't matter how good your speakers are if sound quality is shot before it even reaches them.

I'd go for a good internal sound card over an external sound card or USB speakers any day. USB sound is usually 100% software driven and the hardware there is usually cheap stuff.

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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2011, 01:08:54 pm »
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I'd go for a good internal sound card over an external sound card or USB speakers any day. USB sound is usually 100% software driven and the hardware there is usually cheap stuff.

Yes I would have to agree with Bill 100% there. Even the cheaper sound cards are usually better than the onboard chips and the USB.
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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2011, 05:27:37 pm »
Hi!

just want to say, creative use its own proprietary connection which made my life miserable. I used to own Creative Inspire 7900 (7.1). It came with a cable. The speaker side got 4 plugs for 7.1, while the other side got 3 plugs (for 5.1 soundcards). It took me a while to figure the way to have native 7.1 (my laptop has 7.1 connection, and my speaker too, so I think, why I should not get direct/native 7.1).

The speaker was stolen (I think there is someone in the UK who is using my speaker  ;D).

I am using Logitech Z506 (5.1 speakers). It is in my opinion, better in sound quality than Creative's. I added two more speakers separately (from some unknown manufacturer) to make up 7.1 I was tempted to buy a more expensive 5.1 Logitech speakers which has optical connections, but I was on a tight budget after buying X58A-UD3R and i7 950.
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Re: Speakers recommendations wanted
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2011, 05:04:02 pm »
Hi Problemo..yes the acoustic energy speakers are very nice,,,gosh how the hi-fi world has changed since the 1960s...I still run my Gale 401 speakers which still sound nice, although they needed a good 100watts rms ro hear them,and I still have my Technics SU9600 beast which gave out 180watts a channel.....http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=technics+su9600&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=D_A2TbKzMIOqhAeq7-n-Ag&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDIQsAQwAg&biw=1016&bih=506
Cool. Thats a very interesting old amp you have there. They don't make them like they used to.  ;)