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GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video

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GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« on: April 04, 2011, 06:39:10 pm »
System:
GA-880GMA-UD2H Rev: 2.0
AMD Phenom II x2 555 BE
G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL kit loaded into the "blue" slots.
2x  WD7501AALS in RAID 0
1x WD7501AALS standalone
BIOS set to optimum defaults.

What is happening is thus: After a few days/weeks of operation, the system will freeze with corrupted video. After the initial freeze, it takes a good bit of resetting/restarting before the system will boot and remain stable. Indicators point to something overheating since a hard power off for a few hours is normally required to get the unit back up and stable. The unit ran rock solid for 6 months until a RAM stick went bad and I had to RMA it.
Any ideas what this could be or how to test?  
could the memory controller have gotten whacked?
maybe the onboard heatsink (TURBO 3D) came loose when I was in there pulling sticks?


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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2011, 01:52:41 pm »
Hi there,

this is one of those issues that might take a little time to resolve, especially as it seems to be intermittent!

My first guess would be to check that the Northbridge heatsink hasn't come loose. They do seem to be a bit wobbly (that's normal) but just double check that it is seated properly. It maybe worthwhile removing the NB heatsink and replacing the thermal paste as this can sometimes help.

Why am a suggesting this? Well as the problem seems to be video linked the Northbridge would be the logical place to start looking as the NB Chip handles the throughput of data for video.

Another thing to check is your BIOS. Is it the latest version F5? If not you can download from here: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3424&dl=1#bios and then use QFlash to update rather than the @BIOS utility. Also, it is worth checking that your video drivers are up to date.

Also, are you using any software to monitor your system temps? If so, what? A utility such as HW Monitor can help if the problem is temperature related as it will show you if anything is running very hot. But, a note of caution, it isn't perfect and sometimes the sensors on the motherboard do not work as they should so it is best used as a guide rather than as gospel.

If none of theses steps resolve the problem, post back and we will look at other things that may be causing the issue. To put your mind at rest, I would be very surprised if the Memory controller has been damaged unless you have been running your RAM at 1600 MHz for any period of time. Even a faulty RAM Stick shouldn't impact on the memory controller.
Remember, when all else fails a cup of tea and a good swear will often help! It won't solve the problem but it will make you feel better.

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 04:19:47 pm »
I do notice the NB heatsink getting pretty hot to the touch at times, not sure if that's a good sign of thermal contact or a bad sign of overheating components.

I was worried I'd void the warranty if I replaced the thermal paste and reseated the heatsink, so I haven't messed with it. Plus I have to take the board out, which I'm not excited about.

What I'm going to do is rotate my CPU cooler (Cooler Master GeminII S) to cover the NB heatsink instead of the RAM, and see if that helps, though I should probably be concerned that the radiant cooling isn't enough.

(BIOS is F5)
« Last Edit: April 08, 2011, 04:24:27 pm by j5 »

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2011, 04:24:51 pm »
If the NB is getting hot to touch that means it is transferring the heat from the chip through to the heatsink so you probably won't benefit from removing it and replacing the thermal paste.

You may gain by reorienting your cooler, as you have suggested. Another thing to check is the amount of cool air passing through your PC Case, is there enough flow to actually cool the motherboard?

Adding a small 80mm to direct some cool air onto the Northbridge area of the motherboard is also a relatively easy and very effective mod to help bring temps down.
Remember, when all else fails a cup of tea and a good swear will often help! It won't solve the problem but it will make you feel better.

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 05:54:35 pm »
I've been running the fans on "auto" for both case and CPU since I'm not doing any overclocking.
Since they aren't much louder in full on mode, I'll run them that way for a bit and see how things improve (or otherwise)

thanks for the tips, stay tuned.

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2011, 01:25:03 pm »
Made the above mentioned changes, but I still can't get this system stable.
It will either freeze or bluescreen (the last one being bad_pool_header) within 24 hours of use.

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2011, 02:57:31 pm »
Have you tried running Memtest on your RAM? If not it might be worth doing that just to make sure you haven't got a dodgy module before we go much further down the overheating route.

As I said initially, the kind of issues you are facing can be the hardest to solve and it may take a little while before you can actually isolate the exact cause and solve the problem.  :'(
Remember, when all else fails a cup of tea and a good swear will often help! It won't solve the problem but it will make you feel better.

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2011, 03:33:10 pm »
I did run a memtest (Windows memory diagnostics, running extended mode, cache at default, unlimited passes) for 9 passes with no errors.
I have it running now, seeing if it can go 24 hours with no errors.

Afte the BSOD, windows crashed on boot with a video driver complaint, but I restarted again after a cold boot with no other changes and it came up fine.
 ??? ???

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2011, 03:47:31 pm »
What make and model of power supply are you using?
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2011, 03:49:44 pm »
What make and model of power supply are you using?
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2011, 03:54:21 pm »
And what GPU are you using?
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2011, 04:19:19 pm »

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2011, 04:22:22 pm »
Ok. I was considering your power supply requirements as the PSU is below the recommended 550W. Especially with all your drives as well but maybe you can get away with it if you are using the onboard GPU.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2011, 04:57:09 pm by Dark Mantis »
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2011, 04:53:06 pm »
Ok. I was considering your power supply requirements as the PSU is below the recommended 550W.Especially with all your drives as well but maybe you can get away with it if you are using the onboard GPU.
Interesting point. I haven't really done a load analysis on the system....any software that can help or do I just pull out the calculator and start adding?

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Re: GA-880GMA-UD2H: Random freezes with corrupt video
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2011, 05:00:13 pm »
There are plenty of load calculators on various PSU manufacturers websites but I have found often that they are not accurate when it comes to real world scenarios. I would have looked at  a PSU of at least 550W personally but as your is a good make and new it should be ok for now.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy