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GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP

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GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« on: May 13, 2011, 11:25:01 pm »
I am having a terrible time trying to figure out what is wrong. My system does not boot up.

My system has the following components

MB GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R
Memory G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) DR2 800
CPU Intel Pentium Dual-Core E6300
HDD1 WD 1TB Black Caviars
HDD2 WD 1TB Black Caviars
Graphics Sapphire HD4650 1GB Radeon Video
Power Supply SILVERSTONE ST56ZF 560W
Case Antec 200
OS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
DVD-RW SamSung DVD RW
Optical Drive LITE-ON Black 4X BD-ROM Blu-ray

I will keep it short and just tell you the current state

I have memory cards plugged in slot 1 and 3.

When I power up, this is what I observe

All lights on MB go on and just stay on
The power supply fans go on
The Antec fans go on
The CPU fan momentarily wiggles and that's it

When I try to power off, I get no response so I need to click the power supply off.


I have taken MB out and reassembled it again. I made sure all the wires from Antec are properly plugged into MB. Usually when it boots up I see the MB lights blink a lot and then it boots and I see boot up on screen. Since the lights stay on and don't blink, I assume the graphic card is not relevant to problem but that and Antec box is the only thing really left. I don't notice anything being shorted out either.

Any ideas?

Aussie Allan

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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2011, 08:20:19 am »

 there's always the chance someone on this site will put there finger right on the problem, ... until then, you have to start somewhere, download MemTestx86 or 64 on to your boot media (USB or Burn an ISO to disc) and try to boot into this environment attempting to test your memory.

 Just getting to the test will tell you oodles, Try this and come back with a result.

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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2011, 08:43:28 am »
Hi

You haven't said if this is a new build or has been running alright for a while.

Firstly follow Allan's advice and see if any of you memory is faulty. If that doesn't get you anywhere I would suggest going back to basics and try only the essentials.

The next thing is to remove the motherboard form the case and test it on the workbench.

Make sure that you observe anti-static precautions.

Lay some cardboard or use the motherboard box that is non-conductive on the worktop and remove the motherboard/CPU/heatsink/fan/buzzer/one stick of memory and PSU from the case and put it on the cardboard. Add the keyboard and now I know you haven't got any graphics but try and boot. The system should try and then fail emitting a series of beeps. Please post what sounds it makes.
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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2011, 02:56:45 pm »
I built the machine about 16 months ago and ran fine and long story on how I reached this point but I am at this point.

I am getting NO BEEPS to help me diagnostically.

I even had the MB and Power Supply replaced.

Before I replaced MB, I just plugged in the power cord and 4 wires (HD,RES,POWER,....) while it was out of Antec chassis
and still no beep. I haven't tried this with replacement yet. Gigabyte even told me the original board worked.

There are cases where faulty power supply could cause problems.

I unplug the Graphics card and memory completely and st6ill no beeps to indicate missing memory or graphics.

THEN

I tried just putting in only first memory stick in slot 1 and still no beep.
I tried just putting in only second memory stick in slot 1 and still no beep.

I think the CPU fan should only start up if the CPU reaches higher temperature and should turn on and off accordingly.
The CPU fan is plugged in.

In the old MB board, I tried re-seating the CPU.

Without any memory or graphics card on board, I am down  to focusing on

1) CPU seating
2) Trying MB out of the chassis and unplugging everything except power cord and 4 wires (HD,RES,POWER,....)
3) Power supply

I've came across a 2009  post on tom's hardware where more than a few people SEEM to have somewhat similar problem  of NO BEEP although no solution was posted. Their computers worked fine for a year or more and then all of a sudden theyt stopped working and NO BEEPS. One guy had it happen to two different computers in home around same time.

I've been at my wits end.


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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2011, 03:26:48 pm »
As a matter of interest what have you got installed so that you can hear the BIOS beeps, a speaker or a buzzer ?
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Aussie Allan

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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2011, 03:34:56 pm »
 Bingo!........Sorry for my dry Aussie humour but DM might have nailed it .........Most assumed the speaker is integrated on the motherboard or they can just die........check!.........is there anyway you can check the CPU.....another board/setup or a mate.......with what you've already checked, there not that much more it could be except a infected or corrupt bios...............did you load anything on to your system immediately pri to it going tits-up???

 P.S you stated you got no beeps trying to go into memtest......did it actually boot into the interface ???

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« Last Edit: May 14, 2011, 03:51:21 pm by Aussie Allan »
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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2011, 03:50:24 pm »
I have always heard the beeps on boot up

I got the HDD Audio hooked in

even if it was an audio problem, it would likely still boot

correction
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Without any memory or graphics card on board, I am down to focusing on

1) CPU seating
2) Trying replacement MB out of the chassis and unplugging everything except power cord, cpu stuff and 4 wires (HD,RES,POWER,....)
3) Power supply

I figure with just these involved I should get at least some BEEPS


I think the CPU fan should only start up if the CPU reaches higher temperature and should turn on and off accordingly. Maybe I am wrong.

The CPU fan has been checked and rechecked over and over.

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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2011, 03:54:17 pm »


 Are you seeing anything other then a black screen!

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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2011, 04:00:02 pm »
screen is black
no screen output

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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2011, 04:05:02 pm »
As far as where beep comes from

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Motherboards either have a small speaker on the motherboard or have pins on the motherboard that connect to a small speaker on the case to make the beep. It is independent of whatever audio controller is on the motherboard.
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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2011, 04:09:02 pm »


  Wo,Wo,Wo ... go back a step......You have a black sceen when your computer is off / on / booting up / shutting down / you see nothing no matter what you do or power up ?

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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2011, 04:20:48 pm »
Please can you just answer the original question of what you have installed on the board to hear the beeps. HDD audio doesn't count!
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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2011, 04:27:06 pm »

always black screen no matter what

I read in manual where it uses Award BIOS
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Q: What do the beeps emitted during the POST mean?
A: The following Award BIOS beep code descriptions may help you identify possible computer problems.
(For reference only.)
1 short: System boots successfully
2 short: CMOS setting error
1 long, 1 short: Memory or motherboard error
1 long, 2 short: Monitor or graphics card error
1 long, 3 short: Keyboard error
1 long, 9 short: BIOS ROM error
Continuous long beeps: Graphics card not inserted properly
Continuous short beeps: Power error
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even with no graphics or memory, it should indicate something

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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2011, 04:58:27 pm »

 Your lucky enough to have the ear of the moderator of this site.....when he asks....what- do- you- have- installed- on- the- board-(or case)- to- hear- the- beeps,........ he has good reason for asking....AA
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Re: GA-EP45-UD3R will not boot - NEED HELP
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2011, 05:16:17 pm »
The only installed stuff on MB are the CPU, MEMORY and GRAPHICS CARD.

There is the BIOS and CMOS but they are hard soldered into board.
This replacement board is brand new so I have to assume they work OK.

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The BIOS on the motherboard contains the instructions on how the computer boots and is only modified or updated with BIOS updates, the CMOS is powered by a CMOS battery and contains your system settings and is modified and changed by entering the CMOS Setup.
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I have heard people removing CMOS battery for 30 minutes to erase CMOS and then reinstalling and putting it back in and then trying to reboot.