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New to overclocking...need advice before proceeding

New to overclocking...need advice before proceeding
« on: April 12, 2012, 11:34:04 am »
Im NOT a gamer... tho I DO enjoy having all the best subcomponents for my machine.

Below is a breakdown of my setup:

My current System consists of the following:
PC Case: Lian-LI PC-A7110 Black Full Tower Case with 7 Bay HDD Hot-Swap Tower, 1x 3.25” External Bay, 5x 5.25” External Expansion Bays, 6x USB 2.0 Ports, 2x USB 3.0 Ports
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-880GA-UD3H
    • Hyper Transport Bus: 5200 MT/s
    • 6x SATA2 3.0GB/s Ports
    • 2x SATA3 6.0GB/s Ports
    • 4x USB 2.0 Ports / 2x USB 3.0 Ports / 1x eSATA Port / 1x ieee 1394 (FireWire) Port
    • Expansion Slots:
        • 2x PCI-Express x16
       • 2x PCI-Express x1
       • 3x PCI
 
3. CPU Processor: AMD Phenom II x6 Black Edition / 6-Core 1075T
    • L2 Cache: 6x 512K
    • L3 Cache: 6MB
    • Hyper Transport Support: Yes
    • CPU Cooling: Heatsink & Fan - Zalman™ CNPS9900ALED 120mm Ball Bearing Fan
 
4. High End Premium Sound Card:
    • HT Omega Claro + (Gold Plated) Premium Sound Card
      • Digital 7.1 Surround / DTS / Dolby / Pro-Logic / Etc Audio Output
      • Fiber Optic Digital and Coaxial Digital Cable Outputs to TV or A/V Receiver.
 
5. Optical Drives:
    • LG BluRay ROM / DVD-Combo Drive
    • Pioneer DVD Multi-Drive
    • Lian-Li 3.25” Multi-SD/MMS/FD Internal Card Reader

6. DDR3 RAM (1600Mhz):  
    • 4x 4GB (16GB Total) 1600Mhz DDR3 RAM + 1GB Onboard DDR3 RAM
7. Hard Drives:
    • 2x 74.6GB Western Digital 10,000RPM  Raptor HDD's configured in RAID '0' to run OS (System recognizes these as a single 20,000 150GB RPM HDD (UNBELIEVEABLY FAST compared to your average 7200RPM hard drive speeds and single SATA cable transfer rates and procesing speeds) By running the OS and ONLY the OS from this RAID 0 Drive... I increase the Hard drive reaction speed and data transfer rates by nearly 500% increase.
    • 3x 750GB Western Digital 7200 RPM HDDs (Media Storage Only)
    • 3x 1.5TB Seagate 7200 RPM HDDs (Media Storage Only)
    • 1x 2.5TB Western Digital 7200RPM HDD (Media Storage Only)
 
 
**Note**  As you can see, I’m pretty serious when it comes to my machine… and do NOT do any gaming at ALL… I just enjoy having the best subcomponents in my computer.
 

 
You may by now have noticed that I haven't mentioned any Graphics / Videoredering software (which is required in order to get a picture up on your monitor.)
My Gigabyte Motherboard comes out of the box with an ATI RADEON 4250 on board Graphics card.... which is absolutely great if all you're doing is watching Movies, BluRays, and SOME low to medium Graphics demanding games (I can play any of the Need for Speed games, but getting into first person shooters and the graphics cannot handle it)  
 
Below are Photos of my system:
 
 
My ACTUAL Lian Li™ Case

Case includes a 7 Drive HotSwap RAID Toware with 2x 120mm fans on either side to keep it cool, and 3 more 120mm fans throughout the case to prevent overheating.

Gigabyte GA-880GA-UD3H Motherboard


Phenom II Black Edition: 6 Core 1075T Processor


ZALMAN CNPS9900ALED 120mm Ball Bearing CPU Fan & Heatsink

ZALMAN CPU fan to prevent CPU overheating if/when I decideto overclock

DDR3 Corsair 1600 MHz Ram (4x 4GB: 16GB Total)



HT Omega Claro + Premium Sound Card w/ 7.1 Surround Sound capability and full DTS/Dolby/ProLogic/etc Integration
  MY system the day the case came in (Before I had my Zalman CPU Fan/Heatsink) while I Ziptied and Cable-Tied all the cables and wires to the supports… out of the way.

I really enjoy my superior quality Sound, 2 optical digital outputs for premium sound quality
 

My Computer Monitor (55" Sony Bravia™ LCD HDTV)

 
 
 
Ok, here's where you guys come in....
 Im new to overclocking, and HERE is what my overclocking options menu looks like.





I was able to configure the DDR3 RAM settings to accomidate the 1600MHz DDR3 RAM I Installed... but now I would liketo know:
a.) How high can I safely overclock my CPU without risking damage to the CPU itself? this threshold SHOULD be somewhat higher with the Zalman CPU fan installed.

b.) Secondly, How do I go about Configuring the bios to overclock the CPU?  How many of the settings need to be changed?
I've already realized that by changing the 'CPU Host Clock Control' from auto to manual and then adjusting the CPU frequency... the CPU changes from its standard 2800Mhz to 4,000Mhz by adjusting the clock control to 300 from 200.

At what point does the increased CPU Mhz become dangerous to the CPU?

I would like to find the threshold at which it becomes dangerous...and then adjust it down one setting for safety.

any help would be greatly appreciated.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2012, 11:41:21 am by Mr. Walnuts »
Motherboard: GA-880A-UD3H
CPU: Phenom II 1075T x6 Six Core Thuban
RAM: 1600MHz Corsair Vengence 4x 4GB (16GB Total)
Sound Card: HT Omega Claro + (Best sounds card I've EVER SEEN)
Optical Drives: LG DVD-Multi Drive, Pioneer BluRay ROM, Sony DVD-Combo/RAM
OS Hard Drives: 2x WD Raptor 10,000 RPM 1

Re: New to overclocking...need advice before proceeding
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 11:37:05 am »
fyi...for anyone looking into new cases... Lian-Li CANNOT be beat... Thermaltake doesn'thold a candle to Lian-Li.

additionally... I plan to purchase the new 8 Core AMD FX8120 Zambi CPU for this board...

But Im on the market for a new board as well... preferably whichever MB has both the MOST SATA3 6.0GB/s ports...AND the fastest onboard video on the market...

anyideas?
Motherboard: GA-880A-UD3H
CPU: Phenom II 1075T x6 Six Core Thuban
RAM: 1600MHz Corsair Vengence 4x 4GB (16GB Total)
Sound Card: HT Omega Claro + (Best sounds card I've EVER SEEN)
Optical Drives: LG DVD-Multi Drive, Pioneer BluRay ROM, Sony DVD-Combo/RAM
OS Hard Drives: 2x WD Raptor 10,000 RPM 1

autotech

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Re: New to overclocking...need advice before proceeding
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2012, 02:18:55 am »
Sounds like you have most of your homework done. Persoally i always go up by a very little and then run it to make sure it is stable. I run a 3.2 and have it running at 3.8 and has been for a year now with no ill effects. There are alot of factors in overclocking but is best to start small and work your way up. I have had mine at 4.25 then hit a bsod so turned it down started made sure it was stable then turned it down again.

The most important part of your computer you didnt list which is the PSU. If you want to run it safely then leave it at stock which is a good idea using 16 gigs of ram. Absic has a very good thread about AMD and Ram limitations.
GA-Z170X-UD5,Core i5-6600K,16 GIG,3200 ram ,2 X Corsair 240GB SATA III SSD, 500 gig HD,7 ult 64\, Rx-480 8gig\

Z97X-SOC GIGABYTE, I5 4670k, 16 gig 1600 ram, 240 gig sata3 SSD,1x 500HD/ R9 280x, corsair 650 RM PSU

GA-Z97X-Gaming G1,850 corsair,,DDR4 3200,240SSd,6950 video,850EVA

Dark Mantis

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Re: New to overclocking...need advice before proceeding
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2012, 08:42:09 am »
I notice that autotech latched onto the same point as me in that saying how your components are all the best but not even mentioning the PSU which is one of the most important.

If you are concerned for the life and safety of your components then it is best to run everything at stock levels. In general it is the heat that you need to watch out for when overclocking and if you have a good cooling system, like watercooling, then you can go much higher safely. The Zalman is a mediochre cooler and whilst not bad won't match up to the Noctua NH-D14 or something like that if you are serious.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

autotech

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Re: New to overclocking...need advice before proceeding
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 02:49:51 am »
Dark Mantis is right the zalmann is ok i use one myself and it helps but the Noctua NH-D14  is a whole lot better.  My zalmann is the same make and model as yours and better than stock as it is alot quieter but i do notice on a decent overclock it can go up pretty fast when you reach the right point. On my old quad core at 3.6 overclock it was 40c at a 3.8 overclock it hit 46c in no time at all.

Heat makes all the difference in overclocking and when you dont have a black edition and have to raise the front side buss it overclocks your ram and cpu which creats alot more heat even on the northbridge.
GA-Z170X-UD5,Core i5-6600K,16 GIG,3200 ram ,2 X Corsair 240GB SATA III SSD, 500 gig HD,7 ult 64\, Rx-480 8gig\

Z97X-SOC GIGABYTE, I5 4670k, 16 gig 1600 ram, 240 gig sata3 SSD,1x 500HD/ R9 280x, corsair 650 RM PSU

GA-Z97X-Gaming G1,850 corsair,,DDR4 3200,240SSd,6950 video,850EVA