Thanks for your reply.
However I don't think that they can tell me that there is for sure F5 onboard.
For sure this is a problem that Gigabyte would start to consider (maybe if they indicate in future on the external cardbox of the board what version is in it, is better for us...).At the moment I can't buy their product without be worried that it doesn't work on arrival, or I have to pay other $$'s only for something that Gigabyte have to indicate externally.In the past many times when a new processor of the same family arrived you are not always forced to have the correct bios for it before you installed the cpu, maybe it wasn't 100% recognized but at least it worked for the time necessary to update.
Also I don't want that mister "nobody" open my motherboard and "plays" with it, and I think that also others may think the same, now we are at a situation in that between RMA's of others people and open boxes is a lottery what you will receive on the products you buy...I don't want to play at it.I want a product NEW and for what is possible be sure that is NEW....
Regarding the firmwares on ebay or other places the sooner the companies start to do legal actions against them the better for all of us.If the firmware is property of Gigabyte I for sure understand that if someone mod's it FREELY and without any GAIN, the companies can tolerate it like it always was, but it's a different situation if someone want to gain something for it, it has to have legal rights to do and have to warrant the work, they have the rights?? they legally warrant it??I doubt....The bios modders probably started to think that they can "translate" what was always tolerated because it's useful for the entire community in another semi illegal (also tax free) work for gain money (we have seen many nowadays, they are not alone..).
I have seen also modders that pretends to be payed on others forum semi-officially endorsed by other companies not only on the net.Maybe we can all help changing this stopping to pay them...and start pretending that are the companies that fix the problems of products or add/update functions if necessary in BIOS's like it was in the past.
Sorry for the off-topic but since we speaked about alternatives bioses thats my point, maybe it's useful that someone start to say something about that.
Regarding my question if someone that have recently bought these two products can confirm that it's impossible to start the board if you don't have the F5 onboard I would be grateful
Many thanks again
