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Title: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on April 30, 2011, 10:13:55 pm
Need some Qualified help here guys! Have had a nightmare with my new build trying to get the on-board "Marvell" controller to work as advertised!...last try was a couple of Momentus XT-500s in raid0...Oh well, ... live and learn! was OK but not the performance I really need/want

To cut to the chase my parts list I now have to play with is as follows
1) GA-X58A-UD3R ver2-Fg1 Bios
2) i7-950@ 4.2 (Full water)
3) 24 Gb DDR3
4) GTX-480@925
5) Revodrive x2-100 for C:
6) 6x500 Samsung spinpoints
7) 2x500 Momentus XTs
8) Highpoint RocketRaid 640 (4 port sata)
The Highpoint card came Yesterday and the Revo will be here Tuesday! I mainly do high end Photo-editing and software testing for reviews/blogs........My first thought was to have:
1) Revo , Bottom 16x slot for C:
2) Highpoint 640 with 4x500 spinpoints for quickish photo storage on PCI port ?????????
3) 2x500 spinpoints in raid1 for photo back-up on ports ????????
4) 1x500 Momentus XT for Acronis continues clone back-up for C: on port ?????????
I also have a 1TB-USB Drive that could be lonely now ????
Any advise would be gladly digested as I have never used SSD and am becoming aware that I need to keep IOPS free on the board for the Revo to really shine. Some insight into the garbage collection and what not to do with SSD, ...eg defrag,how much to put on the drive beside OS and CS5 (Photoshop and plug-ins)

Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 01, 2011, 01:59:47 pm
Hi Allan

After going through your (massive) list of drives I think I have found the most sensible way to configure them.

The boot drive SSD on Intel SATA2_0 port

RAID1 drives on GSATA ports

Momentus drive on Marvell SATA3 port

the rest of your RAID on the Highpoint card on PCI

Revodrive on PCIE slot.

Have a Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 01, 2011, 03:25:37 pm

 Thanks for coming back to me dark man,  I'm glad I wasn't too far off the mark with where to stick all them bits! will be nice to have all my backup drives in the case instead of on my office desk through sloooooooooooow usb. Which anwsers all my questions except for...............

 The only other thing I read on another forum post was Quote...." onboard raid is to be avoided if possible on all onboard SATA ports excluding raid cards" so the boot drive SSD (Revodrive x2) on PCI-X16 has enough band-width ......leave as much IOPS for the revodrive!.... even if you have to disable all ONboard raid in bios???

 Is this true mate!.... does not seem to make that much sense to me.....one part contradicts the other.

 P.S yes , sadly 21 tomorrow yet a bloody-gen

 Aussie Allan.........Many thanks for your time and timely answers.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 01, 2011, 03:39:11 pm
Well as with anything there is always a tradeoff between the various sides. If you want to put all your drives on the inside as RAID then you have to use the ports in RAID configuration. Personally I don't think it will make much difference as most of the time the bus wont be transporting data from all drives at once.

I think the way I planned it is the most effective all things considered. There are of course other ways like putting both your 2 RAID1 drives and SSD on the Intel ports. There are however downsides to that as if the controller fails you lose your C drive and the C drive backup. The two slower drives might impact the performance of the SSD also.

You think you have problems I am 50 + VAT!! :o
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 01, 2011, 04:27:27 pm

 Grrrrreat idea Batman!.....method in madness grasshopper! and thanks for the inspiration...........thisarvo I'm going to put a master power switch between the PSU and all onboardl backup drives and go over to manual backup and clone once a week.........powering the backup set, on/off between boots, this should allow the revodrive (C:) and raid card (B: storage)  full and unfettered access to all resources

 50+vat eh!........So if we get rid of the government we'd all be twenty years younger........makes sense to me!

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 01, 2011, 06:00:06 pm
Yes I think it's the best way to go Allan.

Get rid of the government and we would all definitely be a lot younger no sweat! 8) 8) And if we got shot of the banks at the same time it could be heaven! ;)
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: oggmonster on May 02, 2011, 11:16:15 pm
Don't forget folks, if you don't want the government to read your thoughts, remember to put on your tin foil hats!

On a serious note how have you got on with the RevoDrive x2 in your motherboard. I have the same board as you and am seriously considering a revo x2 (if/when the bank allows it)
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 02, 2011, 11:57:12 pm
Don't forget folks, if you don't want the government to read your thoughts, remember to put on your tin foil hats!

On a serious note how have you got on with the RevoDrive x2 in your motherboard. I have the same board as you and am seriously considering a revo x2 (if/when the bank allows it)

 The sale of one of my kids was approved yesterday so the RevoDrive x2 arrives tomorrow morning, might be a day or two but I will  supply some running commentary, I suspect it'll be like a roller-coaster ride emotionally to get all the drives in and working how I want it. I've been reading and posting a fair bit this last 4 days and like anything cutting edge out there it's never as simple as the salesmen says!

 I think I'll have not too many problems installing and configuring the card and  OS to a stable state,....the fun will start when I go to the next step with the Highpoint RocketRAID 640 PCI card.......OCZ support have been pretty good advising me to ...........And quote "you should be able to disable it's Boot Rom via FW. This should minimise any Rom "footprint/space" issues" end quote.

 After reading this back from one of the site support administrators I might be pushing my luck getting 7 drives + Revo all running under one bonnet, But we'll see.........Another heartening quote was this one............Yep.. I got Revo_120 booting as C: + Revox2_480 Storage 1 + LSI 9260 4i (4x Vertex Turbo) Storage 2.. working happily together on an EVGA P55 Classified 200. (Bear in mind the Evga has the NF200 chip and extra Rom option space)............and even more applicable............I have the RocketRaid 644 in my MSI 890FXA-GD70 along with my Revo as my system drive (Windows 7 C: drive)....I get the "not enough space for option ROM to load" error at boot (you have to play around with the positioning of the Revo and RR card so Revo is "first" to initialize) for the RR card. But you can still use the Windows based management tool to create the array (I use Raid5) and then it functions perfectly fine as a storage drive (you just can't boot to it).....Stay tuned!!!

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 03, 2011, 07:59:34 am
Please do give us details of the installation and setup as you go. It would be interesting for many people as these Revodrives in particular are  becoming much more prevalent.

If you need any more help with the setup maybe Pierre will help as he is our drive and RAID genious.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 03, 2011, 09:33:01 am

 Funny you should mention Pierre, seem to be a spade is a spade straight shooter (my type of person for problems and a beer) He seem to be pretty active in other forums and knows his Latin......if you have his ear, I,d love to have my post/thread put under his nose, ...I've already read some of his replies and would welcome his weighted opinion gladly.....

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 03, 2011, 01:07:14 pm
I'll see if he's not too busy.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 03, 2011, 01:27:59 pm

 Many thanks Mantis!

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: F5BJR on May 03, 2011, 01:46:01 pm
*
For option ROM problem you have a solution if you wish not boot with the HighPoint card

Use HPTFlash and test with Reallocate EBDA or INT 13 support options

Pierre

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You can found HPTFlash with FirmWare / BIOS to this page

http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA_new/series_rr600.htm

Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 03, 2011, 01:47:51 pm
Thanks for dropping in Pierre. ;)
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 03, 2011, 02:05:41 pm

 Merci beau coup Pierre (Kangaroo crap!, I hope I got the Nationality right!) and you too Mantis......know all I need to do work out how to use this information, ...I struggle with the English language to begin with but reading this short post makes me realize how little I still know......will get there in the end, ....I hope!

 Again many thanks to the pair of you.

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 04, 2011, 09:57:07 pm

          Update

  Couldn't resist before the weekend!  Had a wee play doing a simple install as the OS/Boot drive........Not quite performing as I'm sure it will end up!

  A couple of things that surprised me were, it indexed in windows at 7.9 but on AS SSD bench was reading @ 635Mb/s  but writing @ only 145Mb/s.....Huh!....and still gave me a 7.9!

 Toolbox will not recognise the drive so will not initiate.........my gut tells me I need to flash to 1.33 but the only Tutorial I can find (OCZ forum/support) uses a Big USB drive with Ubunti with the drivers loaded on...........bugger that!........I'm flat out coping with "Wundows".

 My intention tonight is to pop in a drive and load revo drivers and Windows to it as a boot and then reformat the revo/format/Flash from windows/rebuild back to Raid0 then bench again.....if it maxes out as it should...........reinstall OS to it and turn it back into a boot drive again........Wuddaya-think!

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: oggmonster on May 04, 2011, 10:04:09 pm
iirc 7.9 is the highest number you can get on Win7 index. Any idea why the write speed isn't what it should be?
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 04, 2011, 10:24:18 pm
Yes the write speed is always much lower than the read speed but that is incredibly low.  :-\
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: oggmonster on May 04, 2011, 10:25:52 pm
Yeah swear their write speed in AS SSD was something along the 300mb speed?

Perhaps bios update?
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 04, 2011, 10:27:02 pm
 The only thing I did very different was drop the strip size down to 32K just to see what if!  Won't really know until I can get into the toolbox me thinks!
 
 I've got the board throttled back to stock so there's no issues there although truth be told that was /is the first time I've used AS-SSD as well.......is there a better SSD benchmark out there that people like to use and is well recognised?
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: oggmonster on May 04, 2011, 10:29:11 pm
On most of the revo x2 reviews ive seen AS SSD has been pretty much that shows up on 100% of reviews.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 04, 2011, 10:29:50 pm

 Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm! there's another quick question, ... When I do the flash do I do it once or does each unit (4) need to be flashed ??

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: oggmonster on May 04, 2011, 10:30:58 pm
Pass.. I was hoping you could answer all these questions so when (if) I eventually get one then you would have done all the ground work for me ;)
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 04, 2011, 10:32:20 pm


  Dooh!
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 04, 2011, 10:33:17 pm
I can't say I know either but I would have thought it would only be the once.

AS SSD is the recognised benchmark for SSDs.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 04, 2011, 10:37:08 pm

 Looks like I am in fact the Guinea Pig,  no probs ,...Ill keep you informed ... Oh yeh! ...I like Scotch!

Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: oggmonster on May 04, 2011, 10:37:57 pm

 Looks like I am in fact the Guinea Pig,  no probs ,...Ill keep you informed ... Oh yeh! ...I like Scotch!

Aussie Allan

I'll see to it that you're well stocked on scotch... eggs ;)
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 04, 2011, 10:46:04 pm


  Mmmmmmmm! Egg and Marvell chips!.........Nuther question Marster!!......Never though about it till now but the Windows 7-64 install took up a tad over 50GBs ,... does that sound correct........The 100GB Revo formatted down to 93GB to begin with.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: oggmonster on May 04, 2011, 10:52:56 pm
Ive used 49gb on my Win7 Pro x64, but about 15gb of that is games + other rubbish. You'll just have to be abit strict what you install!
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 04, 2011, 11:56:02 pm

  I love the internet.........Apparently Sanforce and AS SSD don't  get along very well,  Numerous manufactures recommend ATTO!

 Have a look now ...and this is with no tweaking , bog stock setting and no firmware update as yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Aussie Allan ;D :o ;D

                     

                             

                                       
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 05, 2011, 11:26:19 am
Hey! That's some nice numbers Allan. Just wonder what a bit of tweaking can do ? I know they are fast drives but that is certainly better than I expected as an initial run.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 05, 2011, 11:42:36 am


 PIG in POOH!........Touch wood, (Whisper) I'm pretty amazed too!.....will keep yo informed DM.

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 07, 2011, 09:20:57 am

  Need some help here still,I come across many little issues , most I resolve (trial/error) one thats been bugging me for some time is getting the board to consistently boot from CD when required rather then several messages including "non system disc........press any key to boot from floppy" ......no floppy, not installed in bios .... tried setting revo x2 or any drive for that matter to IDE / ACHI / RAID...........any ideas DM ?....... theres a couple of question for you today but we 'll start with this one.

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 07, 2011, 01:00:19 pm
Hi Allan

It sounds to me like the BIOS just can't find the boot drive. Now that could be that it just isn't recognising it as in if you change the mode ie IDE to AHCI or it doesn't know where to look for it. The mode must be set to whatever you had it as when you installed Windows.

Make sure thet in the BIOS the floppy is set to "None", the boot sequence and boot priority are both showing your boot drive as the primary drive.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 07, 2011, 01:26:32 pm

 Yup!... that's what I did ... as an example ... Formatted Revo.......  floppy.... none....Primary in order....first boot device ... F12 for boot of CD/DVD ... still pushes through to "please press any key to boot from floppy"............does the same with clean, formatted magnetic drives, Can't figure what's changed, It's gotta be Pilot error!

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 07, 2011, 01:48:57 pm
Can you post some pictures of the relevant BIOS pages.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 07, 2011, 02:39:41 pm

 Can do!....will have to be a little later after I finish painting the little girls room, financial controllers brought home a bloody big whip this weekend!

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 07, 2011, 02:50:10 pm
Oh! I know the feeling mate. I just hope you survive the ordeal  ;D
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Lsdmeasap on May 08, 2011, 08:15:29 am
I always leave the BIOS 1, 2, 4 boot order set to HDD, None, None - then use F12 at bootup to choose CD or USB if I need to.

That might help you with your CD booting issues.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 08, 2011, 02:15:31 pm
Yes I agree with Lsdmeasap's way of doing things here as it is faster to use the HDD as the Primary boot device and not have the optical drive on there  and just access it via F12 if and when you need to.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 08, 2011, 11:27:50 pm
Hi Allan

It sounds to me like the BIOS just can't find the boot drive. Now that could be that it just isn't recognising it as in if you change the mode ie IDE to AHCI or it doesn't know where to look for it. The mode must be set to whatever you had it as when you installed Windows.

Make sure thet in the BIOS the floppy is set to "None", the boot sequence and boot priority are both showing your boot drive as the primary drive.

 Found it!!!........Didn't use enough Brasso!.... there's only about 13,000 different combination in bios, so after trying all of them twice I new something was dodgy in Denmark, after trying a USB-DVD with the 64-bit install disc with the same result, I smelt a rat........the 32-bit disc fired up.

 Was able to polish the damaged disc enough to get another install out of it or two, but I think it's toast, lots of little micro-fissures everywhere across the disc.

 Does anyone out there have the low-down on generating another legitimate copy (DVD) from Bill through official channels or knows of another method to replace my  install disc (Windows Ultimate 64-bit) .........Would you be so kind ??.....If you need the Activation key, it's A45F-22CX- only joking!

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Lsdmeasap on May 09, 2011, 05:03:57 am
You can download any retail or MSDN copy, as long as you use your own key this is perfectly legitimate.   Just google Retail, RTM, or MSDN x64 Windows 7 torrent and you will find it.

Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 09, 2011, 07:55:16 am
You can download any retail or MSDN copy, as long as you use your own key this is perfectly legitimate.   Just google Retail, RTM, or MSDN x64 Windows 7 torrent and you will find it.


Cool! and do I need to change it to become my new install DVD/USB-stick or is it already ISO format ?....Many thanks!

 SAussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 09, 2011, 10:40:01 am
Hi Allan

It should just download and be ready to use. You will just need the original key to activate it.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 09, 2011, 10:50:39 am

 Double cool!......Now I just need an answer from OCZ on how to UnBbrick my new 350lb  paperweight.....still can't get it to except the FW Flash 1.32 to 1.33 fully. I don't seem to have the option to reset it back to 1.32 even............Life!.Thanks DM for your time again.

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 09, 2011, 12:05:35 pm
No problem Allan. Just keep us in the loop as far as your fun with OCZ.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 09, 2011, 05:08:33 pm

    UPDATE!

  In the interest of someone else taking advantage of my little nightmare, with the W7 faulty install disc fiasco behind me and a new copy on a USB-Drive  ... I finally got Someone at OCZ California out of bed with the "Go and Try this" short answer, Effectively the Revodrive x2 is 4 SSD drives in the one PCB package... (Reads as 23Gb each)... with an assortment of controllers onboard pre-configured to Raid0..........On boot, Press F4 or Ctrl+S (I think) which takes you to Revo-Bios.../...Break Raid.../...highlight first of 4....(they run 0,1,2 and 3) format each one individually...once completed.....use Linux pre-configured Flash tool with firm already installed in the root...to take the card to the latest FW 1.33..it's all on the first home screen, once done reboot.../...enter card Bios again (F4) ...config Raid0.../...save.../...reboot and install OS as per usual.........Well thats the plan anyway.......will post my results late tonight or the suicide note!

  P.S When you get to the install screen when loading Vindows , nothing will be there until you load the drivers, on completion of Revo driver install, Revo will appear in the window as a possible OS location to install windows.

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 11, 2011, 12:22:22 am

 Put off suicide for another night anyway......Will post in the morning all the gory details but got the firmware loaded and Windows back-on.

 New firm seem to have improved read from 790 to about 825mbs......write a tad down to 600ish  .... once you have done all the wrong things in installing this card the Flashing and installation is rather straight forward ..........Linux on a DVD or USB key to boot off is mission critical to flash and configure this card properly........Effectively being 4 SSDs in raid0 , you must break the raid set to do anything......And OCZs "Toolbox" does not work with this card..........part of the reason It got buggered up in the first place, ...that and pilot error.

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 11, 2011, 12:05:43 pm
 Update for install and config of these Awesome drives.....A few simple do and Don't list for The OCZ Revodrive x2

 NOTE: These drive come pre-configured and will install out of the box if your happy to have the firmware that's installed on shipping.

 These finding are only what worked for me on a GA-X58A-UD3R ver2 board with Bios FG

 Do put the Revo in the Bottom blue slot
 Do have no other drives present in your system when installing and as little USB clutter as humanly possible
 Do have your board set to AHCI, AHCI is mission critical to format properly and a successfully bios flash
 Don't try and OCZ Toolbox as it can brick the card
 Don't try and use windows to perform any changes
 Only use the recommended Linus (What I used ) or Ubunti to effect changes of your card........On the OCZ site you can download the latest 1.33 FW already installed in Linux root drive that can be put on usb stick or burnt to DVD (ISO)

 After all my mistakes this is what worked for me!

 In mother board Bios, press F4 or Ctrl+S ( only F4 worked for me) to get to revo raid bios......CRITICAL   break raid set so 4 x 23gb is displayed in bottom right virtual drive window/ reboot with Linux and wait till loaded........go to secure erase and use internal secure erase after highlighting each drive in turn .... ONLY use the NULL command when prompted, do not imput your own password as It breaks the software.. this only takes four or five seconds each........once done reboot to Linux again..........this time hit Flash Firmware and follow prompts.......let command screen run.........when finished reboot and when prompted hit F4 again..........follow the prompts to config, Auto or manual Raid set.....you can actually run all four SSDs in raid0....two sets of 2 in raid 0...raid1   ext,ext ....once done ....save and reboot to load windows normally.

 When you come to the install drivers at the very start of windows install the screen will be blank.......this is Normal!........press load drivers and or browse to driver folder you downloaded earlier from OCZ and have on stick , floppy or CD....click load.........At the end of load drivers your RevoDrive should appear in the window as a location to load windows.....if it states 93Gb.......your ready to blast off..........if it reads 23Gb, the raid set has fallen over........Go back to start, do not collect £200 and miss a turn.

 Note : remember to load all driver that you intend to use that are deemed F6 .... because  as you don't have these drives connected at the early part of the install the bios is not smart enough to understand that these will be added later and some drivers will need to be installed before OS

 Aussie Allan

.......P.S........... Once Windows is up and Stable add hardware one piece or set at a time.........Enjoy!
 
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 11, 2011, 03:08:23 pm
Glad to see that it is finally finished  and working Allan. It has been a bit of a long haul though. ;)
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 11, 2011, 03:50:16 pm

 Lets see! build computer, put new floor, shirting boards and paint  in Girls room,install quad shower and vanity in on-suite, tile, ....Yeh! it takes time!!!
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 14, 2011, 08:48:15 am
Short Update

 Still running every thing at stock speed and settings while I tweak the RevoDrive x2........

 Once I disabled page-file (as I have ample Memory on-board) write speed to a big , erratic hit, enable write back flush and cache flush saw a marked improvement (do not if you do not have a UPS....Raid0 is extremely unforgiving with this set-up without a UPS) the biggest improvement was with a Microsoft stability update that loaded in the last couple of days........see result after update.........will keep you informed as I progress.

 Also a new design gold wired heat sink I'm toying with at the moment ... seem to work bloody well but a real pain to make....enjoy

  
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 14, 2011, 09:51:29 am
Like the heatsinks but just watch out that the wife doesn't see all this gold and diamonds going into the computer or it's likely to be gone next time you look!  :o

Where did you get all that gold wire from anyway ? Must have cost a fortune. Nice bit of weaving though.




Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 14, 2011, 09:59:35 am
Like the heatsinks but just watch out that the wife doesn't see all this gold and diamonds going into the computer or it's likely to be gone next time you look!  :o

Where did you get all that gold wire from anyway ? Must have cost a fortune. Nice bit of weaving though.





  Yes, it costs a living fortun..........Naaaaaaaaaaa only joking, 24 carat gold gilt copper wire.......I'll dig up some details later for you as it's rather cheap........I think I paid about £12 for a 100metres odd and come in everything from .1mm right up to 2mm odd.......improved the performance of the passive sink a fair bit going off the little test rig I set up.....later....AA
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 14, 2011, 10:55:44 am
I did wonder if it was only plated. Even so it is a good idea and must help somewhat with heat transfer. Did you use your patented diamond paste under the heatsinks ?
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 14, 2011, 11:14:45 am


 No ... to spensive for everything, besides would need to change the recipe to the mark II which is epoxy based, can be disastrous ...have pulled mosfets off boards in the past (you do everything at least once) got onto a couple of different suppliers of double sided thermal tape, the best one with extreme performance is a pig to work with as it's less then .1mm but holds better then any double sided I've used as long as your cleaning pre- install is fastidious ..Out of the States on A4 for a song........better then the cow-boys here on flea bay asking 50x the price I paid .again will send some detail over if you want this as well.

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 14, 2011, 12:53:20 pm
Yes please Allan. It is always good to know reliable suppliers that don't charge an arm and a leg.
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 21, 2011, 11:14:14 pm
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For option ROM problem you have a solution if you wish not boot with the HighPoint card

Use HPTFlash and test with Reallocate EBDA or INT 13 support options

Pierre

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You can found HPTFlash with FirmWare / BIOS to this page

http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA_new/series_rr600.htm


Pierre.......when and if you get this........looks like you were spot on with this advise, Many thanks........ unfortunately life has had me doing other things around the house including  renovating for some Aussie visitors due next week,........ and my ability with DOS ........Well, is Zero!.... but I'm having a go.

 It's something I've never had to explore till now, necessity is truly the mother of invention..........I've burnt about 25 drink coasters (dead DVDs) trying to combine the Flash bios utility (RocketRaid 640)  with the Dos boot file then burn the ISO.........non system disc error every time....Grrrrrrrrrrrr!  burn utility keeps telling me successful burn 

 I did have some success using the pre-configured Ubunti/Linux boot disc I made with the Revodrive x2 flash bios utility to boot off and then replace with the bare extracted RocketRaid 640 bios flash disc.......then use line command in linux..........can see the files (3) but my no knowledge of DOS kicks in as no matter what I type....."Incorrect command" is the result every time.

 One other small worry in the back of my mind is ....does it make any difference if I have drives (4) connected to the raid card and configured for raid 0 when trying to flash...... or should I be breaking the raid, strip out the drives (disconnect all sata cables) and set to IDE or ACHI to attempt the preconfigured flash...........sorry for all the questions but still a lot of variables to go through with trial and error

 Any help from any party more then welcome DM or world wide for that matter.

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: F5BJR on May 22, 2011, 10:10:31 pm
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For the HighPoint you have a possibility with HPTFlash and WINDOWS ( exactly as with DOS but with load.exe )

Pierre

 
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 22, 2011, 10:47:34 pm

 Thanks Pierre for getting back so quick, ... got to here some times back (Your images), controller field window remained blank but it let me into the config side..........I set time to 2 seconds, Reallocate EBDA to disabled, ... INT 13 Support to disabled and max array to 4, ...but with nothing in the controller window, flash is not an option.........on reboot setting reverted to the original defaults, Can't even get to windows now without a option ROM errorand then a BSOD ....... the error code disappears in a blink and reboots to recovery option screen..........not being able to get into windows was why I was going the DOS route..........Any suggestions

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: F5BJR on May 22, 2011, 10:57:19 pm
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You can also use load.exe but in DOS mode as with an USB Stick Boatable

I have before no problems with my 2 * RR622 or one clone MaxPower cards

Pierre



Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on May 22, 2011, 11:36:42 pm

  Pierre

 Thanks mate........Will hit it with a big stick tomorrow night and see how it goes, ... will keep you posted and again many , many thanks

 AA
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on June 12, 2011, 11:54:56 am


 Well ... 20 odd days later and to be honest, although I've been intermittent in working on the integration of the Highpoint rocketraid 640 into my system, I'm honestly about to give up on Marvell........Although this card comes ready to run if you want to boot off it........configuring as a slave PCI card has proven to be a living nightmare.

 to jump to the end.....the only way to flash this card is in pure DOS (Boot disc) with the RocketRaid flash utility on the same partition on the disc, it has stonewalled every other attempt I have made to date......I got almost  to the very end of the re config procedure,......... when I hit the execute button, I get an error of  "PCI card not recognised in the system"..........do I need the driver/s on the partition as well ??

  It's all hearsay now anyway, as now no matter what PCI slot I use, the PC locks up at the first few seconds of post, can't even get into Motherboard BIOS or Dos boot disc, pop the card and every thing's fine, reinsert and it's bricked again.

 With all the trouble I've had in the past with Marvells 9128 chip, Maybe it wasn't such a smart idea trusting the reviews as this card carries not one but two 9128 controller chips..........It could be a RMA as I'm starting to think this card is toast........any help gladly excepted.

 Aussie Allan

 

 
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: F5BJR on June 12, 2011, 04:38:58 pm
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I have no ptoblem with my 3 * GighPoint RR622 cards !!

Possible conflict with your motherBoard and RevoDrive card

For testing use your motherboard with minimum port ( requiert only floppy or USB )

or

Place the RR640 in another computer , remove all RAID ports ( only IDE mode  ) or no port

Boot with DOS / USB or Floppy bootable WIN98 with the 4 files downloaded

HighPoint Load.exe detect the card automaticly ( you have also an option for flash new loader version 108 )

http://www.highpoint-tech.com/usa_new/rr600_download.htm

Pierre

*  If card is always not detected contact HighPoint for RMA




Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on June 12, 2011, 05:12:58 pm


  Thanks for coming back Pierre

 There's a couple of things there that I haven't tried and worth a shot

 Already tried stripping it down to the very basics but did not know about the new 108 loader, thanks,  still has me stumped as to why the card now bricks the machine when I turn it on.

 Will try another machine........Pierre.......All the pins on top of the card, what purpose do they perform, I was wondering if I could short some to return the card to a factory profile .... I'll put in a bit more effort but I smell an RMA, no piece of kit should give this much trouble if it's a goody.

 Again thanks..........Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: F5BJR on June 12, 2011, 05:26:38 pm
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Possible card bricked , why ?

I have absolutly no find problems with all my HighPoint cards , old or new

Pierre

Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on June 12, 2011, 05:44:53 pm


 Thanks Pierre......Had to ask, Having to RMA would explain why I've been having so many problems.

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: Aussie Allan on June 13, 2011, 03:04:11 pm


 Have just finished testing the HighPoint RocketRaid 640-PCI card in a Second Bench rig and can finally confirm the card is B***dy Toast..... Locks-up the boot phase on intel raid chip and will not go further, Can't even get near the Delete option for Motherboard BIOS..........RMA started so I can start the fun and games AGAIN!

 Should have looked at this as a possible outcome about 2 weeks ago........not having to RMA an item in over 3 years, just got spoilt I guess.....Hind sight can be very bitter medicine...DOOH, ... DOOH, ... DOOH,....

  Always trying to look on the bright side......there's not much I don't know about this card now including ALL Flashing Procedures and software required and how to generate Pure DOS boot disc with drivers and flash tools on the correct partition........................................................Me eds still spinen...hahahahahahahahah!

 Hope this thread is helping other people out there!............To be continued, same bat time ,same bat chan...........

 Aussie Allan

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: F5BJR on June 13, 2011, 03:46:21 pm
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For me if that is not an hardware problem i have :

SPI Flash or GQProgrammer + Adapter 3 M

http://www.ekitszone.com/Products/5-usb-20-spi-flash-programmer.aspx

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4312

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4234

Pierre
Title: Re: RevoDrive x2 on a GA-X58A-UD3R
Post by: F5BJR on June 13, 2011, 03:50:11 pm
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Adapter

Pierre