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Re: help with new build please
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2010, 08:30:37 pm »
I will mabe need help to connect but ...Yes I know your there to help
Well I can only say thanx a million and thanks for the time you spent searching
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Dave

No worries. When you're ready to put your new PC together you might want to check out the How to guide here: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,1497.0.html and if you have any questions, or problems just ask.

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Re: help with new build please
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2010, 08:33:03 pm »
I will mabe need help to connect but ...Yes I know your there to help
Well I can only say thanx a million and thanks for the time you spent searching
I have to say what a friendly website, So glad I joined
Dave

No worries. When you're ready to put your new PC together you might want to check out the How to guide here: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,1497.0.html and if you have any questions, or problems just ask.

ATB
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Re: help with new build please
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2010, 10:31:45 am »
Hi All, As I have ordered the new parts for my first build, I think I should go the full road and get a new case, I want a full tower and was looking at the Coolermaster HAF 932 Black, High Air Flow ...Any thoughts out there
2x Cooler Master HAF X full tower
Gigabyte GA-890XA-UD3 AMD 790X AM3 Motherboard
AMD CPU Phenom II 1090Tx6
Corsair Memory XMS3 Classic 8GB DDR3 PC3-10666 (1333)
Corsair HX 850 W  (PSU)
Noctua NH-U12P-SE2 CPU Cooler
1GB Gigabyte NVIDIA GTX 460 OC Graphic

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Re: help with new build please
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2010, 10:55:12 am »
That is what I am using and for the price it is brilliant. I liquid cool my machine so I need extra things that you don't need for air cooling but even so it is ideal for both. It has a lot of nice features and is big. I like big but do make sure you have enough room on your desk for it. I have some pictures of it on my website accessible from under my avatar. There are some other good cases out there as well depending on whether you prefer steel or aluminium.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2010, 11:38:04 am by Dark Mantis »
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
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HX850
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i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
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Re: help with new build please
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2010, 11:14:38 am »
Well I use the NZXT Tempest Evo (  http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/45651 ). It has plenty of room and as I am Air Cooling it also comes with lots of fans which is good. If you want to go down the water cooling route in the future this case also has that in mind so any upgrades shouldn't be to difficult.

Another thing to consider would be a decent CPU cooler rather than the stock AMD issue as they can be rather noisy.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2010, 11:19:45 am by absic115 »
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Re: help with new build please
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2010, 11:21:56 am »
That's it I always think that cases especially are very much a personal choice, what appeals to one person another will find ugly. There are plenty of good quality cases on the market though. It's just a case(pun intended) of going through them. Gigabyte make a nice case with plenty of options. Personally I preferred the style of their older case but they are well thought out. The Corsair Obsidian is another excellent case, again very large but with all the options and very well designed.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2010, 11:25:12 am by Dark Mantis »
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: help with new build please
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2010, 02:32:07 pm »
Memory: Corsair TW3X4G1333C9A ( http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4GB-(2x2GB)-Corsair-XMS3-Classic-DDR3-PC3-10666-(1333)-Non-ECC-Unbuffered-CAS-9-9-9-24-150V ) It's not on the QVL but I have used it on several AMD builds without issue.

Well, if you read my thread on the GA-770TA-UD3 I'd becareful with using memory that isn't QA'd.   Especially as it may seem to work in the beginning !!

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2273.0.html

Becareful.


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Re: help with new build please
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2010, 02:51:12 pm »
IceColdBeer, your right in general and that is what I always stick to but I think that if absic has used this particular combination on several builds and found it to be stable then we can take his word for it. After all that is all the manufactures do "suck it and see" except they don't call it that!
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
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HX850
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Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: help with new build please
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2010, 03:14:02 pm »
IceColdBeer, your right in general and that is what I always stick to but I think that if absic has used this particular combination on several builds and found it to be stable then we can take his word for it. After all that is all the manufactures do "suck it and see" except they don't call it that!

Well, if there are any memory diffculties later then there is no comeback for the buyer.

I had a GA-770TA-UD3 working with my Corsair memory for about 2 weeks, then when the weather got warmer my memory problems occurred.     If the PC was in an air conditioned room, it may have been a different story.      This stuff is high speed and can be operating near timing thresholds.    I also think the voltage of the memory can be an issue.

I think it this case it would be better to be safe than sorry, but if the buyer wants to take that risk then its up to them.   

But why take the risk, the QA'd memory does the same thing for the same price.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2010, 03:19:02 pm by IceColdBeer »

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Re: help with new build please
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2010, 03:24:28 pm »
As I said you would get no argument from me. Personally I would always go with the recommended modules just to be safe.
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Re: help with new build please
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2010, 03:56:54 pm »
Hi,

The memory that I have recommended here is in fact 1333Mhz running at 1.5V and this is pretty standard.

The big problem comes when using memory at 1600Mhz which is why, if you check most of the current advertising, it isn't even stated in the sales pitch. Another thing to bear in mind is that I haven't suggested that this memory be used on the GA-770TA-UD3 but on the GA-880GA-UD3H.

Remember, when all else fails a cup of tea and a good swear will often help! It won't solve the problem but it will make you feel better.

Re: help with new build please
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2010, 10:41:08 pm »
I think my point was this, that there is a small possibility the memory you recommended won't work on the GA-880GA-UD3H in another environment.    

Considering the problems I've had with the GA-770TA-UD3 and the time it is wasted, I thought I write something here.  

I couldn't see the point in taking the risk in not using QA'd memory unless there was something to gain (i.e. money saving, speed etc).

The memory you recommend should be OK, but if it isn't the buyer will be back on these threads cursing "absic115" ;)











« Last Edit: July 18, 2010, 10:42:15 pm by IceColdBeer »

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Re: help with new build please
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2010, 07:09:39 am »
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I think my point was this, that there is a small possibility the memory you recommended won't work on the GA-880GA-UD3H in another environment.
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I couldn't see the point in taking the risk in not using QA'd memory unless there was something to gain (i.e. money saving, speed etc).
True, but if we all took the safety first, view then we would never move forward. I have used this memory on many occasions and not encountered any problems. Although it doesn't appear on the Gigabyte QVL, Corsair say it is compatible with the Phenom ii CPU's which I think is more important especially as the memory controller is built into the CPU and not the motherboard.

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Considering the problems I've had with the GA-770TA-UD3 and the time it is wasted, I thought I write something here.   
It is appreciated and your experience and views help create the basis for a well structured and hopefully, informed debate.

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The memory you recommend should be OK, but if it isn't the buyer will be back on these threads cursing "absic115"
This is true, but I think I would sooner be cursed for suggesting the use of  what I believe to be good solid components, from my previous build experience, rather than follow Gigabyte's or any other companies shopping list.
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Re: help with new build please
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2010, 07:15:34 am »
Whilst I usually do use the recommended memory, I also say thet there is nothing like experience and in your case I would be more than happy to take it onboard. 8)
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: help with new build please
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2010, 08:56:31 am »

True, but if we all took the safety first, view then we would never move forward.


That is the point, the QA'd memory is as good as the memory you're recommending....     Not using the QA'd memory isn't moving forward.