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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #270 on: December 01, 2010, 03:22:46 am »
Time for the " Trial by fire test !!! " literally

Lighter fluid to hand, jyst need time to get to the retailers for a new board first


I'm tempted to switch motherboard myself, if i do i guess gigabyte will never see me as a customer anymore >:(

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #271 on: December 01, 2010, 10:47:47 am »
Trust me all manufacturers have their problems and it really doesn't matter which board you buy there is a chance of troubles with it. I had always sworn by Asus boards before this one but now I am quite happy with the switch and I am not swearing at Asus boards any more.
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #272 on: December 01, 2010, 04:12:11 pm »
bubbl3 - your RAM 6GB GSkill F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ is not on the QVL, whereas F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ is. I would seriously suggest you switch or buy some new RAM. See earlier postings on page 17 for list of known good and bad memory. Note the TR3X3G1600C8D has had mixed success - works for Hello People but not for fatbobuk.

fatbobuk - sorry to hear that your issues persist. Are you still using the TR3X3G1600C8D?

I am now running bios FC without any issues - well that is not totally true... any memory issues that is! I very occasionally get one of my two graphics cards go blank and then resume after a few seconds. I suspect it is the C1E power saving issue - have not yet disabled this in the bios. Dark Mantis - do you have any suggestions for this? It happens so intermittently (once or twice as weel) I would not know how to verify any changes I make are actually working.
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #273 on: December 01, 2010, 04:19:48 pm »
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I very occasionally get one of my two graphics cards go blank and then resume after a few seconds. I suspect it is the C1E power saving issue - have not yet disabled this in the bios. Dark Mantis - do you have any suggestions for this? It happens so intermittently (once or twice as weel) I would not know how to verify any changes I make are actually working.

Intermittent faults or issues are always the worst to pin down as you can never really test for them. It could quite possibly be due to the power saving settings as they are often the root cause of this type of thing but proving it is another matter. I would suggest disabling them and see how it goes for a week and if the system behaves then you have a fairly good idea. A BIOS update would probably cure it if that is the case so it would only be a temporary fix anyway.
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #274 on: December 01, 2010, 11:40:28 pm »
Just spoken to them and they used the same memory that I've been testing with :(

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/6gb-%283x2gb%29-corsair-xms3-classic-ddr3-pc3-10666-%281333%29-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-7-7-7-20-165v

Balls.

Back to the drawing board I guess.

So finally got a chance to retest the board using the same RAM (see link above) they had used (which I had previously tried on another BIOS I think) and it booted from cold and showed all the RAM.

Now I not jumping for joy yet, but I don't think I have actually tested this combo of RAM and BIOS, plus I had spun the system up a couple of times as I'd been having a short somewhere, so the system might have been 'warm'.

I'll test again in the morning and see what happens. Fingers crossed...
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #275 on: December 02, 2010, 10:56:57 am »
Hey, fingers crossed this time. ;)
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #276 on: December 02, 2010, 11:06:36 am »
Well it worked first thing this morning. Will check again tonight and run some burn tests.
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FunkyErn

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #277 on: December 02, 2010, 02:32:14 pm »
Hi theboyfold!

That sounds promising but you are right not to celebrate too early. When the same company RMA'ed my existing board with the replacement RAM it tested fine with them and also when I initially rebuilt the system. It was only after an overnight cold boot did the errors reappear. One morning out of ten it actually cold booted without any errors. I suggest you test it first thing every morning - cold boot and run MemTest86 straight away. You should only need to run for 5-10 mins as my errors would always popup before test#5 ran. If after a week you have no cold boot errors then it is safe to crack open the champagne  8)

I am not aware of anyone else using TR3X6G1333C7 - so you might be fine with this model (or batch) of memory. Didn't you have TR3X6G1600C9 memory before (same as mine)? That model definitely has "issues" with the mobo and bios FA/FB/FC.

After two sets of TR3X6G1600C9 I finally resolved the issue by switching to Kingston 1066 RAM. Good luck with the TR3X6G1333C7 and keep us posted of your progress... how it works fine!
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #278 on: December 03, 2010, 09:44:26 am »
I'm clearly getting my numbers confused!

Before RMAing the board I was running TR3X6G1333C7 and it wouldn't boot from cold.

I'm now running TR3X6G1333C9 and it will boot from cold but it's wildly unstable. I get constant BSODs and programmes like Windows Explorer and Windows Desktop Manager are always crashing. Also seeing a lot of errors on my main HDD.

When I could get the C7 to boot, the system would be pretty much rock solid.

So I'll swap out the RAM again and see where I get to this time, I'm also going to update to the latest BIOS and see where that gets me...

The Champagne is back on ice (or in the garden as it's ruddy freezing here today!)
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #279 on: December 03, 2010, 09:57:17 am »
Have you tried running Memtest 86+ on the new memory modules to make sure they are not faulty before you start swapping them out again. Never take anything for granted!
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #280 on: December 03, 2010, 10:14:27 am »
Just trying now, but my Linux Multiboot drive doesn't want to work this morning.

Ever get the feeling it's going to be one of those days...
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #281 on: December 03, 2010, 10:30:21 am »
Yes... I had trouble with my system this morning and it tried to tell me I had a failed overeclock which was nonsense. I think that maybe computers are getting just like us ....don't like working in the cold mornings.
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Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #282 on: December 03, 2010, 11:23:29 am »
Fixed Memtest, ran it, no errors.

Put in the other RAM (TR3X6G1333C7) and same old BSOD.

Now trying to run the FC BIOS
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #283 on: December 03, 2010, 11:55:18 am »
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a BSOD :)

I'm going to head to a local friendly PC store and get them to test with some other types of RAM before I burn the MoBo to keep warm
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #284 on: December 03, 2010, 01:59:44 pm »
Sorry to hear that  :(

So I gather you have tried:
TR3X6G1333C7 (old) - would not cold boot without errors
TR3X6G1333C9 (new) - no cold boot errors, but wildly unstable with BSODs

I recommend you try a completely different make of memory other than Corsair. I can recommend the Kingston KVR1066D3N7K3/6G - but this is running at stock 1066 as I have no desire to OC. I have no errors or BSODs with this for over three weeks now. You could try KVR1333D3N9K3/6G if you want 1333.
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