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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2010, 08:58:30 pm »
Hello all, I'm nero's son. I am using this account now as my mother does not want it she only joined for me anyway, so it'll be me from now on :)

Seasonic are a good brand of PSU no doubt, but on the cards box it recommends a 450w psu.

17amps per rail is pretty low these days, for example my PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135514
Has about 52A, which compared to 17 is slightly more.

In my opinion, I really wouldn't want to take the risk, but it's up to you.
I'm sure someone with any more knowledge on psu's will jump in and correct me if I'm wrong, but this is my opinion.

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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2010, 09:30:59 pm »
Hi nero jnr and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.

Actually it's always a good idea to read the prior posts before posting ;) but as you're new we will let you off. I had just commented on the PSU power being inadequate, but certainly one more like yours would be more suitable. I have the HX850 and they are very good PSUs.
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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2010, 11:37:46 pm »
Hi nero jnr and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.

Actually it's always a good idea to read the prior posts before posting ;) but as you're new we will let you off. I had just commented on the PSU power being inadequate, but certainly one more like yours would be more suitable. I have the HX850 and they are very good PSUs.

Thank you :)

I always read prior posts and like many like minded individual's some member's seek more information and the more heads the better :)
I like to try to help out too,  don't mean to tread on your toe's   ;D

I like the Corsair PSU's, they are good and solidly built. I did want the HX850 for future proofing just in case I wanted to add another card and use crossfire, but couldnt afford a second card or that psu at the time (that was the HD 4850 at that time, hence crossfire).

Lele81

If you find that you do need a different PSU your welcome to report it back and either Dark Mantis or myself I'd imagine would be more than happy to help you find one :)
Though I'd lean on a PSU by corsair for their stability and 5 year warrenty, I presume thats standard with all corsair PSU's.

tris

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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2010, 08:28:37 am »
Hi tris
No problem with you adding to the post to be sure. As you say the more info the better in a lot of cases. I just thought you had missed reading what had been said before ;)
Regarding the guarantee on the Corsair PSUs the HX 850 and the new Gold Range of AX PSUs have a seven year warranty. Just shows how happy the manufacturer is with the product!
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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2010, 12:21:22 pm »
Hello to everyone!
Thanks for all your info....!

I was thinking, after read you, to upgrade my 380W PSU then....well, If you would like to help me out, I found 4 PSUs that I could like and afford (I am choosing from a shop with good prices near my home, so I have not all the models to choose from).
I found those:

OCZ ModXStream Pro 600 W @ 80€   (42A and 504W combined on the +12V, 80 Plus)
SEASONIC S12-II 520W        @ 80€  (40A and 480W combined on the +12V, 80 Plus Bronze)
SEASONIC S12-II 620W        @ 90€  (48A and 576W combined on the +12V, 80 Plus Bronze)
ZALMAN ZM600-ST - 600 W   @ 85€  (42A and 500W combined on the +12V, 80 Plus)

€=euro :-)

I would go with the Seasonic 520...what do you think?



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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2010, 12:50:31 pm »
I would say your best bet would be the SEASONIC S12-II 620W @ 90€  (48A and 576W combined on the +12V, 80 Plus Bronze)
It is the best of the bunch there and is a decent output with a 12 single rail which is the best for modern equiptment. The 5 - 10 Euros difference would be money well spent in the long term.
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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2010, 05:19:52 pm »
I would say your best bet would be the SEASONIC S12-II 620W @ 90€  (48A and 576W combined on the +12V, 80 Plus Bronze)
It is the best of the bunch there and is a decent output with a 12 single rail which is the best for modern equiptment. The 5 - 10 Euros difference would be money well spent in the long term.
Yes, my only doubt was that if the PSU is to powerful, maybe I'll not let it work at the best load for the best efficiency? In other words, wouldn't the 520W on MY pc work with best efficiency than the 620w?

And If you know, another question :-) There are also the modular versions of those PSUs (s12II and M12II)...do you know if there are differences in noise or other between the two?

Thanks

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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2010, 05:38:21 pm »
The two versions of the PSUs will be the same as far as efficiency goes. Most power supplies are at their peak efficiency at around 50-60% output. The more modern ones extend that band to nearer 90%. Another thing to remember is that PSUs deteriorate with age and use so you need to build in at least a 10% wear factor when purchasing.

Your question regarding the two types of PSU modular and normal, there shouldn';t be any difference sound wise just that fact that you have the extra option to only use the cables you require. Just makes for a neater build.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2010, 09:12:08 pm by Dark Mantis »
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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2010, 09:10:33 pm »
From the officla Seasonic Website:
The S12II Bronze Series achieves the 80 PLUS® Bronze standard of at least 82%, 85% & 82% power usage efficiency at 20%, 50% & 100% operating loads respectively

So...considering this, you think that the 620W will worth it? Surely I will use it at a low load percentage:)
To bel clear: the 10€ more is not a problem of course, I'm just trying to choose the best for my system:)

Ok about the modular thing ;-)

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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2010, 09:17:09 pm »
Personally I would still go for the slightly larger unit.
1) Little difference in price
2) Most efficiency at 50% load ( which is roughly where you expect to be)
3) A bit of spare power for age deterioration
4) Futureproofing in case of more hardware later.
5) Just coz its better.
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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2010, 11:32:00 am »
Well ok, you convinced me:-)

I'll go with the Seasonic 620W then!!!
For 100€ there is also the modular one, but I don't know if it will worth the price:)

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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2010, 11:38:52 am »
The advantage of using a modular PSU is that you only need to connect the cables you actually need for Graphics Card(s) Hard-drive(s) etc. It makes keeping the wiring inside your PC case much easier which helps with improving airflow and hence cooling.
Remember, when all else fails a cup of tea and a good swear will often help! It won't solve the problem but it will make you feel better.

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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2010, 11:56:42 am »
The advantage of using a modular PSU is that you only need to connect the cables you actually need for Graphics Card(s) Hard-drive(s) etc. It makes keeping the wiring inside your PC case much easier which helps with improving airflow and hence cooling.
I know that, but also I read somewere (googling :-) that not modular PSUs have some advantages too, because all the cables start from the same point (came out from the same hole), instead in the modulars the cables are spread all way long the side......for some people this is considered more caothic :)
So, I really don't know if it worth the price, but I think to take the NOT modular one and I'll try to assemble it with care and precision :-)
« Last Edit: November 07, 2010, 11:57:35 am by Lele81 »

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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2010, 01:49:07 pm »
A lot depends on what case you are going to be using and whether the PSU will be top or bottom mounted etc. Often it is easier as absic says to use only the cables that you require with the modular type so that can be a benefit but obviously it must be your own personal choice.
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Vengeance 1600 16GB
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Re: Who have a GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI) can tell me the card size (HxLxW)
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2010, 03:39:18 pm »
A lot depends on what case you are going to be using and whether the PSU will be top or bottom mounted etc. Often it is easier as absic says to use only the cables that you require with the modular type so that can be a benefit but obviously it must be your own personal choice.
Well, My case have the PSU on the top, in the end I think I'll go with the NON modular model, because the modular is 2cm longer (I have a small case, as you could have understood from my GTX 460 possible issues ;D ), and I noticed that all the cables that I don't use with the Non modular....I can hang them on the top of the case (as they are now, even if with the 620W they will be more), where there's a free space with nothing around :)
« Last Edit: November 08, 2010, 03:40:37 pm by Lele81 »

 

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