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Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4

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Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2011, 09:40:44 pm »
Well I flashed my backup bios aswell (took me a while, apparently you need to have your keyboard ps/2 connected) . But the problem is still there  :-[
Any other tips or am I just screwed?

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Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2011, 09:49:51 pm »
Can you just confirm that the BIOS synchronisation took by going into the BIOS homepage and press F9 for system info. It will tell you what versions both of your BIOSes are.
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Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2011, 12:18:05 am »
Had similar problems...startup ones.  :-[ Blame it on the overclocking first, but after read your post regarding the Bios syncronisation done it...now waitin`for the bastard to do it again 8). No need for PS/2 in ma case, just a basic corded USB keyboard  fit the bill nicelly.
The overclocking was OK until 4.5. Using a H50 cooler, temps stayed well into the safe zone 40 degrees idle, 55 under full load. If i play with Intel Extreme Utility it reaches 70 degrees. Once that i`m rampin`up the speed goin`4.6 and above things have a tendency to get dicey... still lookin for the best solution, want to keep all the energy saving features activated ;D.
Any advice regarding unexplored paths (overclocking wise)? Thinking that maybe is worth a shot to upgrade the mobo when i`ll change it (B3 revision) to a different model. Any Gigabyte models P67 that have more than 4 DIMM slots, still have some extra DDR3 ram from previous rig.

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Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2011, 08:26:43 am »
Glad the advice helped you anyway.

For more than four DDR3 slots you are going to have to go for the Z68 chipset. I am not sure how many memory slots it will come with yet but I am expecting more than four.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
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HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
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Per.C6

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Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2011, 08:38:45 am »
@Mantis

When I press F9 in the BIOS it does show version F7, but this is just one line of text, it does not specify precisely which BIOS contains what version.

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Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2011, 09:01:22 am »
My bad I forgot that there was a glitch in the BIOS of these boards that still needs fixing as far as the reporting of the system info goes.

It shouldn't stop you from synchronising the two BIOSes though.

To do that, reboot and where you would normally press DEL to enter the BIOS, instead press Alt + F12, this will flash the Backup BIOS with the MAIN BIOS contents.   Do not worry when you see a recovery comment, that is normal and means it is flashing the backup BIOS.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2011, 09:06:07 am by Dark Mantis »
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Per.C6

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Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2011, 09:26:00 am »
Thats ok, I did that and I got the message that it worked and I was asked to hit the reset button.
So both BIOS' are updated but the problem is still there.

Maybe it is good to explain that the startup problem is really in the very beginning of hitting the ON switch (so not when trying to start windows).
So it tries to give everything power and you hear all fans go, the lights turn on and then a soft 'click' and it dies. And then by its self tries again. As long as it takes to finally keep power and stays on.

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Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2011, 10:34:58 am »
It certainly sounds like a power problem to me. Can you try a more powerful PSU ?
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Per.C6

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Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2011, 11:14:39 am »
600Watts not enough?? Then I would have trouble running windows aswell, wouldn't I
I ran 3DMark06 and 11 and the system worked fine.

I don't have another (stronger) PSU at hand to test. I guess I have to go to my supplier and ask them to test it.

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Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2011, 12:03:22 pm »
I understand you being dubious and quite rightly so but sometimes these things do work like that and it wouldn't be the first system that has worked fine once booted but has problems starting initially.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2011, 12:04:15 pm by Dark Mantis »
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Per.C6

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Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2011, 01:21:01 pm »
You are right, It could of course be so that the system draws more power on startup than it will actually need to run after that.
I asked that store if it would be enough and the guy was quite confident. But I'll ask them to have a look at my system.
Thanks, I'll let you know how that turns out.

Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2011, 11:28:07 pm »
I understand you being dubious and quite rightly so but sometimes these things do work like that and it wouldn't be the first system that has worked fine once booted but has problems starting initially.

Sorry to give you the bad news but i can confirm that i have the same flippin`problem with ma rig. Extremely pissed off now, but suppose that this is the price that you need to pay for goin after cutting edge technology. My PSU is 850W and a very decent one Silverstone Strider Plus. Worked mighty fine with a i7 920 D0 and a Gigabyte Ex58 UD4P.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2011, 11:30:19 pm by hiperboreus »

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Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2011, 07:48:36 am »
Sorry to hear that hiperboreus. As you say I wouldn't expect the same trouble in your system although anything is possible.

Have you tried firstly putting everything back to stock settings as that is just complicating the issue. Then synchronising the two BIOSes so they are both using the latest version ?

(sorry if you have already done this but some threads get a bit complicated)
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2011, 01:23:18 pm »
Sorry to hear that hiperboreus. As you say I wouldn't expect the same trouble in your system although anything is possible.

Have you tried firstly putting everything back to stock settings as that is just complicating the issue. Then synchronising the two BIOSes so they are both using the latest version ?

(sorry if you have already done this but some threads get a bit complicated)

Done already...

Re: Startup trouble with GA-P67A-UD4
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2011, 01:55:37 pm »
Sorry to hear that hiperboreus. As you say I wouldn't expect the same trouble in your system although anything is possible.

Have you tried firstly putting everything back to stock settings as that is just complicating the issue. Then synchronising the two BIOSes so they are both using the latest version ?

(sorry if you have already done this but some threads get a bit complicated)

Done already...

I will wait for B3, is not worth it to take it out from the system and replace it with another one. For the moment i`m trying to disable all the bells and whistles in BIOS and put it on one by one. Because my RAM is certified 1.6 i`m putting the voltage manually on this one and let`s see what it has in store for me next. The thing is at some point it gives me all sort of funny messages (BSOD) that have one thing in common, storage. Error in storport.sys or ataport.sys or ntfs.sys. Changed the port on motherboard from the famous faulty ones (first two) on the third s-ata. BIOS has AHCI enabled. Kaspersky is reporting from time to time that its update database is corrupted. Scandisk it started last time to correct errors on harddrive... Never had this kind of problems on X58. Never seen scandisk running on X58 even that sometimes not everything was closed up properly. I have a little server in a cupboard with some Opterons humming along for backup and filesharing with a dedicated Raid controller. Maybe i`ll use that controller on the motherboard, disable the s-ata onboard, reinstall windows on that thingie and see if it gives me this kind of problems. If it`s stable with the dedicated controller then is the famous storage bug which it hits me earlier than Intel predicted... If it gives me the same problems oh well...back to square one i guess.  ::)