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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2011, 08:06:27 pm »
Noctua's current range of CPU coolers are compatible with the AM3+ socket if air cooling is your preference and they have a X79 mounting bracket which may be released in the future for Intel fans.

http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=produkte&lng=en

And here:

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-16898-view-Noctua-computx-2011.html

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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2011, 08:13:19 pm »

  As long as you're really, really careful ......wouldn't that be absolutely lovely............ I lost 2 Athlon 2400s in one after-noon with a chip off the edge .

  When you think about it , .... I tried for two years to find-out what thermal compound Intel use under there heat spreaders .... Anyone?

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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2011, 09:04:51 pm »
I reckon the 1366 coolers should be compatible in mounting brackets with the 2011
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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2011, 09:21:36 pm »

  Don't know ..... performance they'll be fine-ish ... but the four fixing points ..... Don't know ..... remember there adding another 645 pins to the grid which doesn't handle prime numbers very well ..... so odds on it will be a rectangular format and not square for the nest

  Photo's can be deceiving ..... but surly not from Giga!..... look at the size of this puppy in pic 2! :o

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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2011, 09:55:51 pm »

  And to be fair to the thread ..... I'm not biased ::)... at all ... ::) Really  ... ::) ....well maybe a little bit ... :P

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   Anyone want to hazard a guess as to the Photo ?
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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2011, 10:44:04 pm »
Let's just hope they also sell the chips bare, no coolers for us with liquid cooling altready!
  If you get right into it DM .... there's not really that much in it .... Till now AMD still use TIM under there spreaders ...so with a Gillette Blade and patience .... it's a no brainer to remove it....... and you will see from 5 to 10C better performance .... even more if you cut a high quality thermal pad as a PCB protector to go around the Die! ;) ;)

  Intel now use a low temp solder (70-80C) which make it a real bitch to remove ..... you have about a 75% chance of turning it into a Christmas decoration.

  Also because it's soldered ..... there's only about 2-3C in it with it off ..... now if I could just work out a way to get the thermal pad in there without taking off the spreader  ::)

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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2011, 11:57:52 pm »
Currently, a disappointing 8150 for the bulldozer!! ???
 We did not wait for the moment I gave up taking. :-\

 Video test.Tr. http://www.donanimhaber.com/islemci/haberleri/AMDnin-8-cekirdekli-FX8150-islemcisi-video-inceleme.htm

Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2011, 12:29:58 am »
There is talk that the Bulldozer CPU may be packaged with a liquid cooling unit for the CPU. See here:
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/69-cpu-chipset/43865-amd-considers-shipping-bulldozer-with-water-cooling.html

There is another article here also:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/coolers/display/20110811072448_AMD_Considers_Equipping_FX_Chips_with_Liquid_Cooling_Solution.html
Oh, I know that I am being so offensively off-topic, but I hope that it is not such an abhorrent transgression, as some people have gone so astray as to post pictures of ugly Intel sockets...

Actually, it would be awesome if there were less competition and more cooperation... Honestly, I do not understand what the problem is... and why a ready-made water-cooling systems are either so expensive, or suck so much!

What if AMD put in place some kind of voucher system? The vouchers could be used for obtaining a water-block (certified by AMD, of course), thus the processors could be supplied without those useless air coolers. (Or one could also get an AMD certified air cooler, perhaps only one kind, like today, to make matters less complicated and not divert them from my point.)

Now I understand that the water-blocks would have to be obtainable "free of charge", only for the voucher, simply for legal reasons (at least here in the EU—note that I am not a lawyer), as anything else could be considered (prohibited) "product bundling". But still, if AMD chose decent water-blocks, then the price difference would not be great—and the difference between them being only in the inlet and outlet diameters... and perhaps there could be only one ("AMD standard", or at least "AMD sanctioned") diameter which would ensure acceptable flow resistance even in more complicated setups (more water-blocks and longer tubing). (Or the most hardcore setups could use another water pump—it would be no big deal in such setups.)

This way ATI (my shorthand for the graphics division of AMD) in cooperation with its graphics card makers could launch a similar program for full-cover water-blocks. Well, I understand that things would not be so clear here, as a decent full-cover block costs at least 100 € or so, but I believe that those monstrous heat-pipe coolers are pretty expensive, too. Perhaps if things were so nicely standardized, there could be something like product lines featuring factory-installed full-cover water-blocks?

Thus enthusiasts would be spared the sorrowful looks on their piles of useless dismounted air coolers of no utility to them (or anyone else, for that matter).

It could even be a huge advantage for AMD (+ATI), because now they could push for a whole water cooled platform, as they produce all its key components. And such a move (and certification program and cooperation with other producers in this field) could even create further incentives for users to choose an ATI graphics card, I mean a Radeon, if they have decided on an AMD processor. Not a full-blown vendor lock-in, but still a mild tie-in...

So... why not?

Oh, I know why not... a lot of morons would then start playing with those components, knowing that they cannot burn them... No, they cannot, but that probably means that they could damage them all the more easily, simply by setting insane voltages... often until a breakdown point, when an avalanche current damages their chip... but even when they are raised below their immediate breakdown point, but still very high, the higher fluctuations may wear it out much sooner. And operating some parts at much higher frequencies may also contribute to their earlier demise...
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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2011, 07:16:01 am »
Yes, you make some good points there but I suspect that like a lot of useful information and ideas that come from the forums like ours it will be totally ignored. It is our place to come up with helpful suggestions just to be ignored by everyone.
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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2011, 11:46:38 am »
Some early sightings of the new Bulldozer FX CPU are being reported. Here are a few links:

http://www.overclock.net/amd-general/1137265-new-fx-8120-bulldozer-pics-benches.html

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/11636/

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=352045

The third link has some benchmarks of the FX-8150 versus Intel's I7 2600K which seems to show the new AMD processor still lagging behind in most tests. It does win one section easily though..... Power consumption!  :D
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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2011, 12:21:09 pm »
In a word I would say "disappointing". I wasn't planning on purchasing certainly not in the near future anyway but I was still expecting better figures than that and more of a challenge to Intel's domination of the market. If nothing else but to drive down prices across the board. Can't see that happening now. :-\
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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2011, 01:13:35 pm »
Well it is still early days, perhaps it's best to wait and see if anymore reviews from the likes of Toms Hardware underline these stats or otherwise. If they are correct how many AM3+ MB's will sell.......I still wouldn't go to Intel!! :)
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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2011, 01:23:10 pm »
Generally I go wherever I get the best value, not just now but for longevity too. At the moment that is Intel but I used to run AMD platforms for a long time. It's the same with the GPUs, my last few have all been Radeons because they are just a better all round card but I would switch without hesitation if I thought that Nvidia were a better buy.
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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2011, 01:42:25 pm »
Yes, that is surely the way to view the situation are you therefore staying with your your current MB DM and not going with the X79? AMD are more affordable for the system builder who has a tight buget. I think the AMD 1090T BE represents good value, thats my opinion, but as the saying goes " you pays your money, and you takes your choice"!!! :)
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Re: AMD Bulldozer FX Series Launch Date
« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2011, 05:04:04 pm »
I think you are probably right as for value for money but the i5 2500K is a very good powerhouse that overclocks well too.

I am not sure regarding the X79 board yet. I would like to jump onboard as I reckon it's going to be a powerful setup and I would like to use it to replace my X58 gear. I think it might be just too expensive for me though so I haven't made any decision yet.
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