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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2011, 04:09:48 pm »
Here is the CPU listing for your motherboard so you can see for yourself what CPUs are supported. It would appear as if the 960T is not put on the list yet.

http://uk.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3621

I think I made it quite clear that it is not on the list!
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2011, 04:38:50 pm »
Ok my mistake, it wasnt you, it was absic. But I answered to your post-->

Well this cpu is new, so I guess its normal this board not incude it.
Whats the official answer from the Gibayte's site, anyway?

The second question is if 960T is (much)better than 720.
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2011, 04:43:10 pm »

The second question is if 960T is (much)better than 720.

To be honest I really don't know but I would assume it is as it is a new updated supposedly optimised chip. There again we all know what happened to BullDozer don't we. :-\
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2011, 04:46:53 pm »
But it is 4 cores against 3, cache 8MB against 6MB, 3GHz against 2.80...Same TDP 95W.
And only 117€  :)
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2011, 04:49:38 pm »
I know the numbers but are you trying to convince me or yourself ? I would hope that it is better but only benchmarks will prove it and you are the man with the chip. ;)
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2011, 04:53:51 pm »
No ofcourse, I dont try to convince you. I just want take out the truth.
Is it ever possible 3 cores be better than 4? Or, could smaller cache be better?

So you say that my old x3 720 2.80GHz maybe is better than this 760T ???
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2011, 05:04:59 pm »
No ofcourse, I dont try to convince you. I just want take out the truth.
Is it ever possible 3 cores be better than 4? Or, could smaller cache be better?

So you say that my old x3 720 2.80GHz maybe is better than this 760T ???

No I wasn't suggesting that seriously just that you shouldn't make assumtions on face value. I am sure it is better but by how much is another story. You do the tests and let us know the results. I am sure there are plenty of people who would be interested.
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2011, 05:48:54 pm »
Yes I will but before that i need to know if it will suit with gama770t-ud3...
Can you communicate with gigabyte's people and ask them?
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2011, 06:03:03 pm »
I am afraid I have no more access to Gigabyte personell or data than you do. This was what I was trying to explain to you earlier. You can ask GGTS as that is what I would have to do.

Just enter your email address and click on the language of choice.
GGTS   http://ggts.gigabyte.com/

Please expect several days for a reply.
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2011, 07:29:57 am »
Yes I heard what you said earlier, but I hoped you could help.
You know, I wonder why this forum call itself "official gigabyte forum"... Whats the difference between official and unofficial then?

If I need several days to receive answer then its like you tell me cancel my order.

On the other hand, is possible an AM3 cpu doesnt fit on an AM3 motherborad??
Has ever happened before in any platform?
« Last Edit: October 27, 2011, 07:31:45 am by agros »
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2011, 02:50:21 pm »
Yes I heard what you said earlier, but I hoped you could help.
You know, I wonder why this forum call itself "official gigabyte forum"... Whats the difference between official and unofficial then?

If I need several days to receive answer then its like you tell me cancel my order.

On the other hand, is possible an AM3 cpu doesnt fit on an AM3 motherborad??
Has ever happened before in any platform?

I have made a system with a 770T-UD3 rev 1.5 for a friend 2 months ago.
He wanted a PII X4 980 BE as CPU.
After i asambled the system it would not boot.
Although in the supported CPU list the 980 BE is not present the board booted just fine after i ve flashed the BIOS to the latest version ,the only one available on the site.
Also in the past i was able to boot a K9A2 Platinum with a X3 720 ,with a BIOS intended for Phenom 1.

It s about luck ,but i think you have more than  65% chances to work.
So flash with the 720 BE to the latest BIOS and try your luck.
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2011, 03:19:51 pm »
Hi,

Why don't you do what has already been suggested by absic and DM and of course you can do what  Vezina has suggested. But, if you contact Gigabyte Technical Support ,as has already been suggested, they will able to confirm what has already been said.

You could also contact the computer stores where you purchased your hardware with regards to your question about which is the best CPU the 720 or the 960T. Where are you going to buy the CPU from? Surely they will be able to give you some information about the CPU you have now and the one you intend to buy.....would they not agros?

Have a look on the CPU compatibility list provided by Gigabyte before you purchase and this will point you in the right direction and save you time and money. I remember you stating that you was thinking of buying a 1090T, if this is too expensive then choose another CPU from the Gigabyte CPU compatibility list for your motherboard. When you have chosen a CPU ask again at your local computer store/s and or research on the internet regarding its capability etc.

So, Agros.....contact Gigabyte Technical Support, if they say it's compatible...GREAT.....if they say no then choose another from the CPU compatibility list.

I hope this helps.

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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2011, 03:39:45 pm »
I have made a system with a 770T-UD3 rev 1.5 for a friend 2 months ago.
He wanted a PII X4 980 BE as CPU.
After i asambled the system it would not boot.
Although in the supported CPU list the 980 BE is not present the board booted just fine after i ve flashed the BIOS to the latest version ,the only one available on the site.
Also in the past i was able to boot a K9A2 Platinum with a X3 720 ,with a BIOS intended for Phenom 1.

It s about luck ,but i think you have more than  65% chances to work.
So flash with the 720 BE to the latest BIOS and try your luck.

I have latest bios too(F10, with no cores unlock present)... I guess its normal for 980 to suit on this mobo, an AM3 cpu use to suit on an AM3 motherboard, right?  Has ever happened something different, in any platform?
So, why only 65%?  I think its 95% :)
Why don't you do what has already been suggested by absic and DM and of course you can do what  Vezina has suggested. But, if you contact Gigabyte Technical Support ,as has already been suggested, they will able to confirm what has already been said.You could also contact the computer stores where you purchased your hardware with regards to your question about which is the best CPU the 720 or the 960T. Where are you going to buy the CPU from? Surely they will be able to give you some information about the CPU you have now and the one you intend to buy.....would they not agros?Have a look on the CPU compatibility list provided by Gigabyte before you purchase and this will point you in the right direction and save you time and money. I remember you stating that you was thinking of buying a 1090T, if this is too expensive then choose another CPU from the Gigabyte CPU compatibility list for your motherboard. When you have chosen a CPU ask again at your local computer store/s and or research on the internet regarding its capability etc.So, Agros.....contact Gigabyte Technical Support, if they say it's compatible...GREAT.....if they say no then choose another from the CPU compatibility list.
Absic didnt suggest me something. As I said, sending msg to gigabyte and wait several days for answer is like you tell me to cancel my order. Computer stores employees dont know more than us. I m not going for 1090 anymore because 1090 has 125W(you see my psu? only 450W) and I think its better to buy 4 cores in this new 960T.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2011, 04:00:36 pm by agros »
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2011, 04:03:15 pm »
I have made a system with a 770T-UD3 rev 1.5 for a friend 2 months ago.
He wanted a PII X4 980 BE as CPU.
After i asambled the system it would not boot.
Although in the supported CPU list the 980 BE is not present the board booted just fine after i ve flashed the BIOS to the latest version ,the only one available on the site.
Also in the past i was able to boot a K9A2 Platinum with a X3 720 ,with a BIOS intended for Phenom 1.

It s about luck ,but i think you have more than  65% chances to work.
So flash with the 720 BE to the latest BIOS and try your luck.

I have latest bios too(F10, with no cores unlock present)... I guess its normal for 980 to suit on this mobo, an AM3 cpu use to suit on an AM3 motherboard, right?  Has ever happened something different, in any platform?
So, why only 65%?  I think its 95% :)

I said more than 65 % :)

I would get a 975/980 BE instead of that CPU as the unlocking to 6 core  is  based on luck,either due to the motherboard or due ti the CPU.
If you really want a six core get one from the supported list.
If a X 4 suffice for what you are doing get one of the ones i proposed as they are good performers and they work with that mobo.

An AM3 CPU will work in a AM3 mobo of course ,but proper BIOS is needed as well as proper hardware TDP support.
Ask Gigabyte for a custom BIOS if needed ,they should be able to do it for you in case it is needed.

Anyway buy the CPU and if it doesnt work return it to the store ,as this should be allowed having in mind you live in a UE country.

Edit: If that PSU is 450 real Watt it will work even with a 125 W TDP CPU .TDP specified is only a theoretical limit ,the CPU -s having usually lower TDP -s in usage than the one specified and thus sucking less power.Easy Saver software from Gigabyte shows the power consumption of the CPU in real time if you need to check out.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2011, 04:09:40 pm by Vezina »
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Re: AMD Phenom II x4 960T BE
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2011, 06:10:08 pm »
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As I said, sending msg to gigabyte and wait several days for answer is like you tell me to cancel my order.
  ??? ???

No it is not, that is how long it takes for them to reply. If you have ordered a CPU without looking on the compatibility list......then good luck.

absic, if you read the comment, has told you to look on the CPU Support List.

Why haven't you asked the store/s where you order from first?

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