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Keeps shutting down

Keeps shutting down
« on: August 28, 2012, 10:26:56 pm »
Please help me

AMD FX-4100 3.6GHz Quad-Core CPU
Gigabyte M68MT-S2 Motherboard
8GB DDR3 1333
1 TB SATA HD
NVIDIA GeForce GT 520
500 Watts PS

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/cyberpowerpc-cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-computer-featuring-amd-fx-4100-processor-gua250-english-gua250/10182891.aspx?path=79fcf5316c1c0fa1e6355ae3f3044a7den02

I dont know why it keeps shuting down randomly, i tried to installed a new and higher powersupply but still shutting down also re-install the window or reforma, still.
I dont think its over heating cuz  its not hot when it shutting down (but im not sure) or something wrong with the motherboard? please help me

Re: Keeps shutting down
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2012, 02:23:45 am »
Please help me

AMD FX-4100 3.6GHz Quad-Core CPU
Gigabyte M68MT-S2 Motherboard
8GB DDR3 1333
1 TB SATA HD
NVIDIA GeForce GT 520
500 Watts PS

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/cyberpowerpc-cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-computer-featuring-amd-fx-4100-processor-gua250-english-gua250/10182891.aspx?path=79fcf5316c1c0fa1e6355ae3f3044a7den02

I dont know why it keeps shuting down randomly, i tried to installed a new and higher powersupply but still shutting down also re-install the window or reforma, still.
I dont think its over heating cuz  its not hot when it shutting down (but im not sure) or something wrong with the motherboard? please help me


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Re: Keeps shutting down
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2012, 09:47:44 am »
It can be either some protection kicking in on the mobo either the PSU .

The PSU needs to be a quality one , a no-name can have on the label a "10000 W" specification ,it s just a label.

You will need to test with a quality power supply ,some PSU featuring 35 Amps+ on the 12V rails should be enough.

Temperatures seem to be ok , but it may be that the VRM protection kicks in due to an inability to power the FX4100 properly so maybe testing with another motherboard may be a good thing to do.
Only the AMD 9xx chipsets manage Bulldozer power consumption properly ,the nforce chipset is quite outdated and is not suited for Bulldozer even if the chips fits into the socket.

In your place i would buy a new motherboard and a new proper PSU with  35 Ampers on the 12V rail (Corsair ,High Power ,Chieftec ,OCZ ,Seasonic ,etc.)
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Re: Keeps shutting down
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2012, 03:04:19 pm »
That mobo is based on a very old AM2 chipset and not really meant for AM3 or AM3+ cpus. The max HT is 1000mhz btw.

500 watts is overkill for that config. If the air blowing out the back of the psu is cool/warm, I doubt it has anything to do with it.

Is the bios up to date ?

Re: Keeps shutting down
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 04:59:40 pm »
i bought an OCZ 700 and still shutting down.
now im planing to buy a new mobo and idk if my bios is up to date..

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Re: Keeps shutting down
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 09:39:46 pm »
i bought an OCZ 700 and still shutting down.
now im planing to buy a new mobo and idk if my bios is up to date..

That PSU is a little to big or overkill ,you may hear clicking noises from the PSU due to very low load.
Some OCZ of 500 would have been better on your configuration ,unless you will add in the future a killer video card or SLI/Crossfire .

If you have money available i advise you to change the motherboard ASAP ,let alone the BIOS.Sell the mobo to someone that uses an older CPU .That nvidia chipset is from 2007 ,if i am not mistaking  ,it lacks a lot of features like SATA 3 speeds ,USB 3 speeds ,HT speeds etc.
Get something new so that FX chip to perform properly.
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Re: Keeps shutting down
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2012, 04:57:07 am »
which mobo should i get
ASRock N68-VS3 FX Socket AM3+
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Socket AM3+
Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Socket AM3+


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Re: Keeps shutting down
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2012, 01:02:37 pm »
From your list i would get
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Socket AM3+  ,the latest revision 5.0 , if i am not mistaking.

If you really need on-board video and you are on low budget you could go for GIGABYTE GA-880GM-D2H (REV. 4) which features a better fitted NB for FX CPU-s ,very close price wise to the 780 based one ,but with recent BIOS updates.It would be a better choice ,but still 3+1 CPU VRM.
 
As i see you have a dedicated video card already  i would go for a GA-970A-D3/ UD3 ,they are a little more expensive ,but it would be what you should have.

I wouldn t recommend the other brand in this price range.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2012, 01:03:24 pm by Vezina »
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3.Gigabyte F2A75-D3H + A4 5300
4.ASUS AM1M-A + Athlon 5150

Re: Keeps shutting down
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2012, 02:34:59 am »
i just bought the Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Socket AM3+
this morning, tried in on but it wont power up  >:(
i went back to store to replace it then tried it again still the same :(
now idk wats wrong... :'(

Re: Keeps shutting down
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2012, 03:09:36 am »
Check for bent cpu pins, that the mobo is mounted properly and see if the case's ground wire has come loose.

Why do you keep buying old chipsets for that new cpu ? lol For not much more $$$ you could have a 900 series board.

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Re: Keeps shutting down
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2012, 09:25:53 am »
i just bought the Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Socket AM3+
this morning, tried in on but it wont power up  >:(
i went back to store to replace it then tried it again still the same :(
now idk wats wrong... :'(

What is the version of the motherboard , i ve told you to look for version 5.0 of it.
If the store doesn t have what we advice you make them order one.

It s a step forward as the PC is not shutting down anymore :)

Build the system  on a wooden surface ,maybe you are doing something wrong ,the case has no standoffs or something.
Make a picture of your CPU installment and show us.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 09:26:27 am by Vezina »
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Re: Keeps shutting down
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2012, 01:11:39 pm »
What is the version of the motherboard , i ve told you to look for version 5.0 of it.
If you look at the biox, you can clearly see that it states its a Rev 5.0 version.

Are the fans spinning? Do you have a PC speaker attached? If so how many beeps is it giving out?

To me it could just be that the processor is not supported in the current version of BIOS thats on that board: try to update it using an older processor
Nothing to see here, move along....

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Re: Keeps shutting down
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2012, 04:43:30 pm »
What is the version of the motherboard , i ve told you to look for version 5.0 of it.
If you look at the biox, you can clearly see that it states its a Rev 5.0 version.


You re right ,it s revision 5.0 , for some strange reason  i was able to see only the  left half of the picture at the posting moment (java might have been off).

Maybe it s a simple power connector issue.
Let s see his pictures regarding installment.

With version 5.0 of the board that FX CPU is supported since F1(default)  BIOS  ,it's not CPU incompatibility.  

AMD   FX-8100   2800MHz   1MBx8   8MB   Bulldozer   32nm   B2   95W   5200   F1
AMD   FX-6120   3500MHz   1MBx6   8MB   Bulldozer   32nm   B2   95W   5200   F1
AMD   FX-6100   3300MHz   1MBx6   8MB   Bulldozer   32nm   B2   95W   5200   F1
AMD   FX-4150   3900MHz   1MBx4   8MB   Bulldozer   32nm   B2   95W   5200   F1
AMD   FX-4100   3600MHz   1MBx4   8MB   Bulldozer   32nm   B2   95W   5200   F1

LE: But still ,seeing the motherboard and it s revision printed on it would be good to know ,even if the box says something he installs the CPU in the mobo and not on the box :).
The CPU may be damaged if issue persists
He should check that the CPU power connector is in ,CPU cooler is installed  and pins are not bent .
Let s hope the cooler is installed as i ve seen someone forgetting to install it on a forum and asking why his PC was turning off  :)
« Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 04:54:50 pm by Vezina »
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AMD FX (APU-s included) users should install - KB2645594 & KB2646060 under Windows 7

1.ASUS Sabertooth 990FX 2.0 + FX 6300 + H60
2.MSI A88X-G41 PC Mate + A8 5600K + Hyper TX 2
3.Gigabyte F2A75-D3H + A4 5300
4.ASUS AM1M-A + Athlon 5150