GA-Z97M-D3H + i5-5675C = problems booting up

[qcjulle]

My combination of Z97M-D3H with the i5-5675C has problems booting up successfully. I am on the latest F8 BIOS version, no overclocks or any special settings. RAM is 2x4GB Kingston HyperX Savage 2400 MHz running at 1600 MHz and 1.5V. Apart from that just a 120 GB Samsung SSD attached.

The CPU fan will spin for about five seconds at quite high RPM and then the system just resets, the fan spins down and it tries again. This can occur 3-15 times before a successful bootup. I cannot even enter BIOS. When the system boots up it works just fine. In a successful boot the fans spin at lower RPM (I don't have a PC speaker so can't hear the Post beep).

I also have a Celeron G1830 CPU I used to update the BIOS to support Broadwell and with that the system boots up successfully every time. So is there still some incompatibility with the MB and the Broadwell CPU?

[autotech]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that board does not support that CPU according to gigabytes list.

Intel Core i5-4690 3.50GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1300 MHz Haswell Refresh 22nm C0 84W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1300 MHz Haswell Refresh 22nm C0 88W 100 F5
Intel Core i5-4690S 3.20GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1300 MHz Haswell Refresh 22nm C0 65W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4690T 2.50GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1300 MHz Haswell Refresh 22nm C0 45W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4670 3.40GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1300 MHz Haswell 22nm C0 84W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1300 MHz Haswell 22nm C0 84W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4670S 3.10GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1300 MHz Haswell 22nm C0 65W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4670T 2.30GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1300 MHz Haswell 22nm C0 45W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4590 3.30GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1250 MHz Haswell Refresh 22nm C0 84W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4590S 3.00GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1250 MHz Haswell Refresh 22nm C0 65W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4590T 2.00GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1250 MHz Haswell Refresh 22nm C0 35W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4570 3.20GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1250 MHz Haswell 22nm C0 84W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4570S 2.90GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1250 MHz Haswell 22nm C0 65W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4570T 2.90GHz 4MB 350 MHz / 1100 MHz Haswell 22nm C0 35W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4460 3.20GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1200 MHz Haswell Refresh 22nm C0 84W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4460S 2.90GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1200 MHz Haswell Refresh 22nm C0 65W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4460T 1.90GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1200 MHz Haswell Refresh 22nm C0 35W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4440 3.10GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1200 MHz Haswell 22nm C0 84W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4440S 2.80GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1200 MHz Haswell 22nm C0 65W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4430 3.00GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1200 MHz Haswell 22nm C0 84W 100 F2
Intel Core i5-4430S 2.70GHz 6MB 350 MHz / 1200 MHz Haswell 22nm C0 65W 100 F2

Both revisions are the same as far as supporting that chip. Unless I am missing something which is possible but not likely.

[qcjulle]

According to the Gigabyte US site (http://www.gigabyte.us/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4970) it should. Anyway I returned the motherboard back to the seller, they said they will check.

[dmdilks]

That CPU only supports DDR3L-1333/1600 memory. There might not be any thing wrong with the board.

[autotech]

I had to make a typo looking up motherboard then my bad. OH I see they mixed that I5 with the I7 lineup.

[qcjulle]

That CPU only supports DDR3L-1333/1600 memory. There might not be any thing wrong with the board.

The CPU spec sheet page 97 says 1.5V DDR3 is supported for desktop processors: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/desktop-5th-gen-core-family-datasheet-vol-1.html.

[dmdilks]

I'm sorry I'm going to say this, but not just you, but most people don't read the fine print. Like any thing new most people just buy and only go by want the Bold print is telling them.

It has happen to me too. I have learn always do a lot of research before you buy any thing new. Plus I understand what you put for a link but these two say different.

From Intel:

http://ark.intel.com/products/88095/Intel-Core-i5-5675C-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz

From Newegg.com:

Details
# of Cores - Quad-Core
# of Threads - 4
Operating Frequency - 3.1 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency - 3.6GHz
L2 Cache - 4MB
Memory Types - DDR3L 1600

[qcjulle]

I'm not sure who is not reading the fine print. Even that page states that 1.5V is supported and there are a multitude of processor reviews where the Broadwell chips have been run with 1.5V and even 1.65V RAM even though 1.65V is of course not advised.

What makes you think that the official processor spec sheet I linked is incorrect?

[autotech]

Every where I look it says DDRAM3L except on Gigabytes site.  Seeing how I don't have that exact motherboard I cant test it but I know Intels site is wrong on my Z97X-SOC FORCE as I  run 2400 MGHTZ in it with the i5 4690k.

[dmdilks]

You stated that

I also have a Celeron G1830 CPU I used to update the BIOS to support Broadwell and with that the system boots up successfully every time. So is there still some incompatibility with the MB and the Broadwell CPU?

The only difference between the two CPU's is one supports DDR3 and the other supports DDR3L One boots and the other one doesn't. I would be looking at the DDR3L memory.

This from Tom's Hardware Review:

Although MSI touts the overclockability of its memory subsystem (claiming DDR3 data rates of up to 3200 MT/s), we’re more interested in the board’s ability to support lower-voltage DDR3L modules. G.Skill sent over its F3-12800CL9D-8GBXM kit. A 1600 MT/s data rate at CAS9 is ideal if you’re looking to match Broadwell’s specifications. A 1.35V rating also plays an important role in keeping these CPUs’ memory controller in-spec.

Autotech:

Every where I look it says DDRAM3L except on Gigabytes site.

Anyway I returned the motherboard back to the seller, they said they will check.

Talk to them and have them test it DDR3L memory.

[qcjulle]

As I suspected the issue was with the motherboard. Exchanged it to a Asus Z97M-Plus and everything works smooth as silk.

[jjweinheimer]

I am encountering almost the exact same problem with the socket 1150 i5 5675C Plus GA-Z97M-DS3H motherboard.
CPU fan spins for about 3s, then stops and repeats, but no post.
Tried everything that is usually recommended:
Minimum components: CPU, Memory, PS
Tried the power supply from my other computer.
MB out of the case
Removed CMOS battery
Eventually guessed that the BIOS was not up do date (how can you know before you post?).
Put my i7 4770 chip into the motherboard (requires lower BIOS number) and booted with no problems
Found I was on Bios F5, when the 5675C requires F7
Since there was no way to update the BIOS without windows or DOS (who has a floppy drive anymore?), I installed windows, downloaded the BIOS utility and updated the BIOS to F7.
I Put the i5 chip back in but it still has the same problem.
The Gigabyte website states that the MB is compatible.
If it is not the MB then it suggests the processor is bad, but this very rarely the case.

From what I am reading I am not getting warm fuzzies about the motherboard support for this new chip.

I put a ticket in and we will see...


 

[qcjulle]

You will probably get a response that the motherboard needs a component change to support the Broadwell chips. Despite advertising many Gigabyte motherboards do not actually support Broadwell on a hardware level. Probably someone decided to save 10 cents by choosing lower quality components. The Asus board I exchanged my Gigabyte to has worked flawlessly from the start.

[dmdilks]

You will probably get a response that the motherboard needs a component change to support the Broadwell chips. Despite advertising many Gigabyte motherboards do not actually support Broadwell on a hardware level. Probably someone decided to save 10 cents by choosing lower quality components. The Asus board I exchanged my Gigabyte to has worked flawlessly from the start.

That is about right. I have see this many times on all boards no matter who makes them too. Here is another example the Z68 board that wasn't made for the UEFI bios. But they came out with a update to keep the people happy. Plus it was Nightmare city too. 

I myself think it is a waste of time and money on those CPU's. It can't run DDR4 memory and it isn't make your computer run any better.

[qcjulle]

The Broadwell chips are actually quite good in a few use cases. The first is gaming, even though the clock speeds are lower the L4 cache is very beneficial in some games. The other is thermally limited builds, I have a passively cooled rig which cannot fit a (good) discrete GPU, so the 65W Broadwell chips are the best available. The boost I got compared to my old AMD A10 5700 APU is substantial.