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Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2015, 01:29:31 pm »
I just order one of these boards GA-Z170X-Gaming 3. If I want to help people I should Have for a little bit. I think it has a lot to do with Drive more then the board.
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Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2015, 08:00:46 pm »
I just setup my board and had no problems at all. The drive doesn't show up in boot option, but it does in the list of sata drive. I have mine set to raid too. I have the Z170x gaming 3.

Boot from the UEFI DVD, Set it windows 8/10, didn't touch the CSM, set the storage to UEFI, & set the Sata controller to Raid. I'm still say it has to do with the NVMe dirve. I'm using a Crucial MX200 M.2 Type 2280SS (Single Sided) 250GB SATA.
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Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2015, 08:43:47 pm »
Thank you !! Be careful, you can not install the samsung' driver. Even the magician software ver. 4.9 does not see the hard disk.

You mean in Windows? Why not? Just the Intel RST driver?
What exactly happens when you install the samsung driver?
I thought best performance is only possible with Samsung's NVMe driver?

Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2015, 08:51:04 pm »
I just setup my board and had no problems at all. The drive doesn't show up in boot option, but it does in the list of sata drive. I have mine set to raid too. I have the Z170x gaming 3.

Boot from the UEFI DVD, Set it windows 8/10, didn't touch the CSM, set the storage to UEFI, & set the Sata controller to Raid. I'm still say it has to do with the NVMe dirve. I'm using a Crucial MX200 M.2 Type 2280SS (Single Sided) 250GB SATA.

Interesting...
Mine didn't show up anywhere...until I loaded Intel RST drivers in Windows Setup...
After installing Windows, it showed "Windows Boot Manager - Samsung 950Pro" in UEFI as Boot Option...
(basically it showed the UEFI Boot Header)
Still, CSM had to be deactivated for mine to work...
So, you're right with "different drive, different problems/settings"...

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Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2015, 11:00:07 pm »
This is good news.  So you disabled Legacy boot support (CSM), but had to provide the iRST driver (Formerly F6 option) for set up to see the NVMe, using UEFI.  Good work gentleman! Friggin' star for each of you...  you earned it :)
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Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2015, 07:08:38 am »
Thank you !! Be careful, you can not install the samsung' driver. Even the magician software ver. 4.9 does not see the hard disk.

You mean in Windows? Why not? Just the Intel RST driver?
What exactly happens when you install the samsung driver?
I thought best performance is only possible with Samsung's NVMe driver?

The Samsung NVMe Driver Installer http://ssd.samsungsemi.com/ecomobile/ssd/update15.do?fname=/Samsung_NVMExpress_Driver_rev10.zip say: "Samsung NVM Express Device is not connected. Connect the Device and try again."

Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2015, 07:41:06 am »
This is good news.  So you disabled Legacy boot support (CSM), but had to provide the iRST driver (Formerly F6 option) for set up to see the NVMe, using UEFI.  Good work gentleman! Friggin' star for each of you...  you earned it :)
Exactly...For me, this is the way to get it working in RAID-mode.

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The Samsung NVMe Driver Installer http://ssd.samsungsemi.com/ecomobile/ssd/update15.do?fname=/Samsung_NVMExpress_Driver_rev10.zip say: "Samsung NVM Express Device is not connected. Connect the Device and try again."
Interesting, will try that this weekend, maybe that's because of the Intel Rapid Storage RAID controller which is managing the Samsung 950pro... How is your performance without the dedicated Samsung driver?


Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2015, 09:50:54 am »
This is good news.  So you disabled Legacy boot support (CSM), but had to provide the iRST driver (Formerly F6 option) for set up to see the NVMe, using UEFI.  Good work gentleman! Friggin' star for each of you...  you earned it :)
Exactly...For me, this is the way to get it working in RAID-mode.

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The Samsung NVMe Driver Installer http://ssd.samsungsemi.com/ecomobile/ssd/update15.do?fname=/Samsung_NVMExpress_Driver_rev10.zip say: "Samsung NVM Express Device is not connected. Connect the Device and try again."
Interesting, will try that this weekend, maybe that's because of the Intel Rapid Storage RAID controller which is managing the Samsung 950pro... How is your performance without the dedicated Samsung driver?

CristalDiskInfo and Samsung Magician 4.9 not detect the hard disk...




Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2015, 12:15:39 pm »
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CristalDiskInfo and Samsung Magician 4.9 not detect the hard disk...



Thx a lot, looks to me that performance is normal, even without the Samsung drivers...
Any other "restrictions"?

Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2015, 12:37:19 pm »
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CristalDiskInfo and Samsung Magician 4.9 not detect the hard disk...



Thx a lot, looks to me that performance is normal, even without the Samsung drivers...
Any other "restrictions"?

If the samsung's software does not work you can not set the space for over-provisioning (or you must do it manually) but most important you can't apply a new firmware !
« Last Edit: December 17, 2015, 12:38:38 pm by Effetredici »

Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2015, 12:49:30 pm »
I'm thinking if keep the system in RAID mode or go back to AHCI and buy a controller raid PCI-E  :o
« Last Edit: December 17, 2015, 01:22:16 pm by Effetredici »

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Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2015, 01:52:28 pm »
This is the bench marking tool I use. AS SSD Benchmark http://www.techspot.com/downloads/6014-as-ssd-benchmark.html

There other tools on the site too. http://www.techspot.com/downloads/
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Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2015, 02:38:39 pm »
This is the bench marking tool I use. AS SSD Benchmark http://www.techspot.com/downloads/6014-as-ssd-benchmark.html

There other tools on the site too. http://www.techspot.com/downloads/

something wrong...



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Re: SSD plus RAID1 Gigabyte Z170XP Help please
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2015, 02:59:37 pm »
I'm thinking if keep the system in RAID mode or go back to AHCI and buy a controller raid PCI-E  :o

Why you really not going to see much of a performance boost. AHCI & Raid are about the same. Like I have said in the past that it is all in what a person wants to do.

But if you do it benchmark both of them, before you put the card in and after. Then post what you come up with. That way people have a choose on another option.
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