X58A UD3R REV 1.0 VS REV 2.0

[Tritono9]

Hey!

Im J.P.

I need your wise opinion. I bought the X58A-UD3R REV 1.0 ten days ago. I have it new in his package because I still missing some pieces to assemble the pc. I bought it because the stock was critical and I was afraid of not achieving to buy one.

Well, the thing is that this week arrived unexpectedly the REV 2.0 of the same board and I dont know if is a good idea to change and pay the difference to get the 2.0

What are the differences between REV 1.0 and REV 2.0? it worths paying more to have the revision 2.0?

I will not overclock. Please tell me your thoughts. Thank you!

P.S. = How I can know from what Batch is my actual Mobo? I readed that some batch make some noises and I  need to know from what batch is mine!

Thank you in advance.

[onemilimeter]

REV. 2.0 has better on-board power conversion circuit. But so far it has been reported to make noise also. So far I think there is no specific batch reported by forumer that does not make the noise. What type of PSU that you're using?

[Tritono9]

hey man, thank you!

So the Rev 2.0 has better onboard power conversion, it is a plus if  I dont want to overclock? you do think is a good idea to pay the difference and get the Rev 2.0?

I will use a CM Silent Pro 700w. For now, I dont have my system running because I need to buy some parts. They next week I will buy the things that I need and I will build my system.

It will be:

i7 930
X58A-UD3R Rev 1.0 (if you do not convince me otherwise)
3x2 Corsair 1333 c9
CM Silent Pro 700w
Video card I dont know yet, Im thinking about it

I want to know the batch of my Mobo, how I can see it?

Thank you!

[Dark Mantis]

The problem seems to be with the motherboard, PSU combination on the UD3R. It hasn't been fixed with the rev2 board but the power circuit is better. This is good for stability whether you o/c or not. I didn't think there was a price premium for rev 2 boards though. I would say your choice of PSU is as good as any, it has plenty of power for normal use and isa decent build. You can look on your motherboard box for all the details of your board. It will be on a sticker on the side.

[onemilimeter]

hey man, thank you!

So the Rev 2.0 has better onboard power conversion, it is a plus if  I dont want to overclock? you do think is a good idea to pay the difference and get the Rev 2.0?

I will use a CM Silent Pro 700w. For now, I dont have my system running because I need to buy some parts. They next week I will buy the things that I need and I will build my system.

It will be:

i7 930
X58A-UD3R Rev 1.0 (if you do not convince me otherwise)
3x2 Corsair 1333 c9
CM Silent Pro 700w
Video card I dont know yet, Im thinking about it

I want to know the batch of my Mobo, how I can see it?

Thank you!

I thought Rev. 1.0 and Rev. 2.0 should cost the same. Please correct me if I'm wrong. If they cost the same, I will go for Rev. 2.0. If you have not purchased any PSU yet you may wish to consider Gigabyte PSU (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/list.aspx?s=51&ck=41). Gigabyte UK said when UD3R was powered by Gigabyte PSU, they did not hear the noise. You can PM the moderator of this forum and ask which Gigabyte model that they use. So, once you have the UD3R and the Gigabyte PSU and if you still have the noise issue, then it will easier for you to deal with the technical support.

[Dark Mantis]

That's a good thought onemilimeter, a bit of insurance never hurts

[Tritono9]

Thank you for help me.

My situation is limited because I live in South America :\. I have bought the PSU CM Silent Pro 700w and here I cant buy Gigabyte PSU because I dont have where to buy. In my country the stock of all products is limited to a few options only. And because I live here in Chile, everything is like a scam. For example, I think too that the rev 1.0 and rev 2.0 should cost the same, but here are some difference in money, like $40 us.

I saw the box and I found this numbers in a white sticker (the only numbers that I can found):

EAN 4 719331 852092
SN101700022265
Check Number 1500 (maybe this is my batch?)

I readed a thread here and I can see that rev 2.0 has problems too like you said. I think maybe I will try with my rev 1.0 and if I have problems of noise (I work with audio and I need good conditions of silent in my work room) or something I will apply warranty and will pay the difference and get the 2.0.

Do you know if I need to pay attention in others aspects? if there are other bugs?

All opinions are welcome! thank for your time.

J.P.

[Dark Mantis]

I think that on the whole it is a good board. As long as you don't fall foul of the "coil whine noise" which seems to happen on some boards(usually only when paired with certain PSUs) I am sure you would be happy with it. I don't know of any other bugs to do with this motherboard except maybe the Marvell chip which provides the SATA3 doesn't perform as per specifications. The SATA3 ports are actually slower than the SATA2 ports when it comes to running a RAID array.

[Tritono9]

Well, Im thinking seriously in change my board for an 2.0 and pay the difference. Rev 1.0 has like 5 update bios when Rev 2.0 only has the deffault, I dont know but maybe is a intelligent option to change my Mobo? I want stability and good perfomance. Maybe it worth to pay the $40 us?

What you would do in my place? is not a huge difference in money but for first time Rev 2.0 arrive in my country. The only thing that worries me is maybe I will get more errors with 2.0 than with 1.0? is it possible in some way?

[Dark Mantis]

Well if you believe the manufacturer's hype the rev2 board is supposed to be better. The power phases are less on the rev2 which I would have thought was a retrograde step but according to Gigabyte's Australian Marketing Manager it's an upgrade. I suppose it depends who puts the spin on it. Here's what he said about the new rev2 board:

The new PWM design is more advanced than the old design and is an upgrade not a downgrade lol. Number of phases do not automatically mean better power design. It depends on the component used and how it's implemented. We've moved onto a new driver MOS system which is very advanced and each mosfet can take more punishment. This new PWM will outperform the older style 24phase when you stick a Core i7 980X give it -190C and 1.95vcore and run vantage past 6GHz. That was the major consideration for moving to the new design!

We have also managed to integrate a new VRM redundancy system so it switches between two sets of 8 phases to increase the life span of phases and also if one of the phases dies the board will still work and use the second set seamlessly without the end user ever noticing. This new VRM allows us to control the way we use phases so for example when you drive an 8 cylinder car around and stop on traffic lights you dont need 8 cylinders to idle the car but only 1 hence reducing the fuel consumption. Same goes for this new VRM. It will can be controlled better than the old VRM so we can switch off sets of 2 phases and give the CPU enough power to operate in any instance but also not using all the phases to reduce power waste

I hope this puts it all in perspective for you

[Tritono9]

Dark mantis,

Thank you. I need a Mobo that fits in the future because money will be an issue, I dont want to change mobo if I want to upgrade my CPU. In this moment, I take your advice and I want to change my rev 1.0 for the rev 2.0

Do you know if there are some users happy with his rev 2.0 Mobos? I readed some threads of the rev 2.0 with some problems. The 2.0 dont have bios updates and the rev 1.0 have. I dont know what to do at all, if someone are using the rev 2.0 and dont have problems please share with us. My main concern is that I will use pro tools, a very picky software for this Im worried about every detail.

Thank you 

[onemilimeter]

Dark mantis,

Thank you. I need a Mobo that fits in the future because money will be an issue, I dont want to change mobo if I want to upgrade my CPU. In this moment, I take your advice and I want to change my rev 1.0 for the rev 2.0

Do you know if there are some users happy with his rev 2.0 Mobos? I readed some threads of the rev 2.0 with some problems. The 2.0 dont have bios updates and the rev 1.0 have. I dont know what to do at all, if someone are using the rev 2.0 and dont have problems please share with us. My main concern is that I will use pro tools, a very picky software for this Im worried about every detail.

Thank you 

What do you think about AMD platform?

[absic]

What do you think about AMD platform?

I use the AND Platform and although it is not as quick as Intel and it has some of it's own problems, these pale somewhat when compared to the amount of problem the Intel platform seems to have.

There are advantages with AMD:
The way they handle upgrades. AM2 & AM2+ CPU's will fit into AM3 boards, although they do need BIOS updates. and, from what I am already reading about the next range of CPU's they will be continuing this kind of thing for AM3 into the AM3+ boards
The lower cost involved in putting together a reasonably powerful PC.
Overclocking on AMD is actually quite simple and, if you have a Black Edition CPU is really easy and, unless you want to be really silly, quite stable. (eg my 1090T is clocked at 3.2Ghz but I can get it to 4Ghz with just a couple of alterations in BIOS)
AMD CPU's seem to be cooler when running at stock than Intel.

Not a definitive guide to AMD but some of the things that I have noticed and experienced.

[Dark Mantis]

Dark mantis,
Thank you. I need a Mobo that fits in the future because money will be an issue, I dont want to change mobo if I want to upgrade my CPU. In this moment, I take your advice and I want to change my rev 1.0 for the rev 2.0
Do you know if there are some users happy with his rev 2.0 Mobos? I readed some threads of the rev 2.0 with some problems. The 2.0 dont have bios updates and the rev 1.0 have. I dont know what to do at all, if someone are using the rev 2.0 and dont have problems please share with us. My main concern is that I will use pro tools, a very picky software for this Im worried about every detail.

Firstly I would like to say that absic makes a very good case for using the AMD solution. He does much the same things with his PC and so knows what he is talking about.
Regarding the Intel platform the rev2 boards are new out and so there won't be so much feedback from them yet and that is also why they are still on F1 BIOS. The rev2 boards have not cured the noise problem as has been documented on this forum. I would think that the rev2 board will have a longer update path than the rev1 boards which is obviously a bonus.

[Tritono9]

Thank you. The bad part is I have bought the componentes except the video card. I bought an i7 930. I bought Intel and not AMD because Pro Tools works better with Intel, is a very picky software in the windows side. But Im decided, I will change my Rev 1.0 for the Rev 2.0 and I will try. I readed that the Seasonic and Corsair PSU makes the noise, but I have a Cooler Master and maybe I have luck. What I understand, is that the growl, squeals thing is not something general but something particular then? I only wish I have luck. I will let you know how it goes. Thank you for your time.