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X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3

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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2010, 04:54:51 pm »
Have you tried flashing back to an older BIOS version?

The only other version is the original FA BIOS, which had the same problem.

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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2010, 04:56:14 pm »
I agree that is the most logical answer (but not everything is logical) ;) That's why I asked about using an older BIOS version. Have you looked on TweakTown forum as they often get newer beta versions than us?

http://forums.tweaktown.com/
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Gary123

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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2010, 05:05:59 pm »
I agree that is the most logical answer (but not everything is logical) ;) That's why I asked about using an older BIOS version. Have you looked on TweakTown forum as they often get newer beta versions than us?

http://forums.tweaktown.com/

Yup, I appreciate your suggestions. :)

TweakTown lists an FC1, but I'm reluctant to try an unofficial Beta BIOS to investigate this problem when everything else is working so smoothly. FB is the current download on the Gigabyte site.

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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2010, 05:09:53 pm »
TweakTown is the official site in hte US for Gigabyte and if they are using it I would doubt that there are any real problems with it. Ask Lsdmeasap on there he will know if it is good.
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Gary123

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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2010, 06:42:56 pm »
TweakTown is hte official site in hte US for Gigabyte

Thanks, I didn't realize that. Still, I think I'll wait until the next BIOS is no longer in beta.

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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2010, 07:46:28 pm »
OK well keep a look out there because as I say they will probably get it before us. ;)
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Gary123

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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2010, 03:18:42 am »
I've used "View performance details in Event Log". It does show a Critical diagnostic for Standby Performance (Resume Duration is 27131ms), but there are no items providing information as to the cause.

Looking closer, it specifies StandbyResumeS3BiosInitTime=26450ms, which is almost all of the 27131ms total Resume Duration. (There's also StandbyResumeResumeDevices=618ms, less than one second.)

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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2010, 09:29:37 am »
I would guesss from those figures that it would be possible to shorten the "wait" duration and make the startup faster.
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Gary123

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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2010, 12:05:19 pm »
I would guesss from those figures that it would be possible to shorten the "wait" duration and make the startup faster.

Yes, I hope the next BIOS release will do that!

Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2010, 01:49:42 pm »
Question, why are you running in IDE mode? AHCI mode is needed for Windows 7 SSD TRIM to function. I doubt it is related to your S3 problem but it could be. Info on changing to AHCI mode after windows install. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/61869-ahci-enable-windows-7-vista.html?ltr=A
If you are going to give this a try image your boot drive before hand or at least backup your data. I have enabled AHCI mode after install on two PC's without any problems but it pays to be safe.

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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2010, 02:08:39 pm »
No that is not correct. TRIM will work as well in IDE as AHCI mode. The only thing that benfits from running in AHCI apart from a  slight speed improvement is the ability to Hot Swap the drives.
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Gary123

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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2010, 02:53:54 pm »
No that is not correct. TRIM will work as well in IDE as AHCI mode.

Yup. I just verified:

C:\Windows\system32>fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify
DisableDeleteNotify = 0

Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2010, 03:51:25 pm »
No that is not correct. TRIM will work as well in IDE as AHCI mode. The only thing that benfits from running in AHCI apart from a  slight speed improvement is the ability to Hot Swap the drives.

I revisited this and I may or may not have been wrong. I found no reliable source of info on this subject. I was always under the assumption that it was required because Win7 requires the MSAHCI driver to allow passing of the TRIM commands. Intel's 9.6 driver also allows passing the TRIM command. This can be found everywhere on the net. I may have interpreted this wrong. It may only mean if you are running in AHCI mode trim will not function if your not using the MSAHCI driver not that IDE mode lacks support for TRIM. If trim does work in IDE mode why is there no info on the net saying you must use the IDE driver included in windows 7. IDE drivers from the chipset manufacturer would surely need to support passing the trim command same as AHCI drivers. As far as the C:\Windows\system32>fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify outputting 0. It does not prove trim is working it just proves it may be working.

Lets say TRIM works in either mode. Why cripple SSD performance by running in IDE mode. AHCI mode makes a big difference in performance in the testing I have done. See screen shots.





If anyone can come up with reliable info on this subject please post links! Reliable meaning from MS, Intel, AMD or a SSD manufacturer. BTW I'm talking native Windows 7 TRIM not a manual Trim tool.

Bill
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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2010, 04:21:05 pm »
Hi Bill, I just knew you were going to make me prove it ;) I almost didn't bother posting but that wouldn't be fair to others who might need the info.
I  had this discussion with Lsdmeasap from TweakTown Forums a little while ago and he has now adjusted his posts on the forum to comply.

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C:\Windows\system32>fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify outputting 0
I agree with you on this point all it shows is that TRIM is enabled not necessarily passed on.

TBH I really didn't feel the drive speed was that much more impressive on the whole.

You can read about it here.
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=505&Itemid=38&limit=1&limitstart=12
« Last Edit: October 08, 2010, 05:47:01 pm by Dark Mantis »
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
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HCP1200W
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Gary123

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Re: X58A-UD3R takes 30sec to wake from S3
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2010, 05:15:59 pm »
Thanks! I'll try enabling AHCI when I have some time.