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Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?

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Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« on: October 10, 2010, 09:58:23 am »
I am posting this problem that has been causing me lots of grief and frustration. 

I have been playing Kane and Lynch on an ATI RAdeon 9700 pro on the lowest settings and decided to buy the Gigabyte GV-R465D2-1Gi to improve the looks and framerate of the game hower everytime I load a game it crashes everytime it finishes loading, I hear the background music/ambience but the opening scenes do not play and the only way out is by pressins Ctr-Alt-Del. 

How can the game work ok with the Radeon 9700 Pro AGP card that is 8 years old and not work on my new Gigabyte Ati Radeon HD 4650 AGP 1GB?

does anyone have any answers?

PS this card is very good with other games like Hitman 2, Counter Strike Source and Flightsim X

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2010, 11:26:34 am »
Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
The first thing I would suggest, as you say it is working fine with other games, is to look at the games website and see if there are any patches or if it is a known problem. You are probably not the first to encounter it.
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cball885

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2010, 12:19:40 pm »
i have checked the Eidos site, the IO Interactive site, the AMD/ATI site and Steam support site and there is no patch available.  I have read forums and other people have similar problem with this gamebut I cannot understand how it worked with the Radeon 9700 but not HD4650?

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2010, 12:55:09 pm »
If other people have had similar problems with the game, how have they fixed it? If they haven't then I am sure there will be a patch released when it is ready.
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cball885

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2010, 01:04:08 pm »
i looks like there are a lot of people annoyed at Eidos for not bringing out a patch for this problem.. do you know if gigabyte are bringing out an up to date driver for this card? the one on the gigabyte website is quiet old

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2010, 01:40:15 pm »
I really can't say as we are not privy to that kind of information. However I would think that unless there is a reason (ie problem or expected increase in performance) then an updated driver will not be issued.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
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HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
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cball885

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2010, 04:02:14 pm »
alright thank you Dark Mantis, i hope something gets done, i might put the old card back in just to play this game

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2010, 04:09:15 pm »
Wellthe first thing you should do rather than just hoping something gets done and leaving it to someone else is to inform GGTS of the problem and ask them to resolve it. At least that way you know there are aware that there is a problem. ;)
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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2010, 09:48:15 pm »
I have ATI HD4670 AGP and cant play Kane and Lynch. The game is too slow on HD4670 AGP.

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2010, 10:14:12 pm »
No a 4670 would be asking a bit much. It would play OK on one of the high end 4xxx series though.
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HCP1200W
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cball885

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2010, 08:47:15 pm »
i logged my problem with gigabyte the other day and I am still waiting for a responce, Eidos said I should contact Square Enix who deal with their customer service

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2010, 08:52:42 pm »
GGTS can take anythng from a few days to about ten days depending on how busy they are. ;)
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6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
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cball885

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2010, 08:30:52 pm »
this is what i got from Eidos...

Date  13 October 2010
Further to your correspondence of 11 October 2010

Dear Sir or Madam

Thank you for contacting EIDOS Interactive Limited customer support.
Your customer number is  400574965

According to your msinfo file, the graphics driver which is currently in use is one from 2007. Also, as you have changed graphics cards, even though they are of the same manufacturer, you would need to reinstall the drivers to ensure it works correctly.

Uninstall the current Catalyst display drivers from within Add or Remove Programs in the Control Panel and reboot your PC. Once back to the desktop, download and install the latest drivers from : http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon-xp-32.aspx - then reboot once more.

If problems persist, please send us updated dxdiag and msinfo files.

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I did a driver cleaner pro and hot fix AGP driver update and still having the same problem

AMD/ATI have admitted its a driver problem and are investigating it further
« Last Edit: October 13, 2010, 10:11:57 pm by cball885 »

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2010, 10:25:49 am »
Thanks for the update. I expect there are others out there that will benefit from the info. ;)
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cball885

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Re: Kane and Lynch: Dead Men with HD 4650 AGP?
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2010, 10:27:27 pm »
AMD now say

After analyzing them, the first thing we notices is that you have one of the newest graphics cards and
that your BIOS version is still from 2002!

Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. A7V8X REV 1.xx
Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
BIOS: Award Software, Inc. ASUS A7V8X ACPI BIOS Revision 1007 10/04/2002


Also your chipset controller is from 2002 too.

Name: VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_B168&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&08
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\VIAAGP1.SYS, 5.00.0000.3430 (English), 7/24/2002 05:30:00, 32128 bytes

Please go to the following website

http://asus.co.uk/support/

check for all available updates for your motherboard model

 A7V8X REV 1.xx

Please let us know if this action has brought any improvement. If not, please send us a new problem report - I would like to see your system configuration after new updates have been installed .


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i am now peed off because I have no floppy drive to update my BIOS and how come I can play Kane and Lynch 2: Dog days demo?? is it not the same gfx engine? i dunno whats going on now