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Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB

FunkyErn

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #210 on: November 08, 2010, 05:32:53 pm »
Yup - just got it and replied already.
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notshy

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #211 on: November 08, 2010, 06:01:34 pm »
I agree that it must be a compatibility issue thing - the board is only supposed to run RAM at 1066 so any speeds higher than that are an overclock - but you offset that with RAM that's designed to be overclocked and you are going to get some funny issues.

If you look at any board that has been around a bit - they are usually on BIOS v8, v9 or v10 - so I think it's just the fact that we are all on official BIOS v2 (FB) and there are things to iron out. It just so happens that some make/models work better on the current BIOS version? Or maybe it's my individual batch? The other issue is that it's hard to replicate cold boots to test !

I went for them as they were on the supported list, I'd heard good things and Corsair guaranteed that exact model to work with the motherboard - http://www.corsair.com/configurator/product_results.aspx?id=1362102

The thing with that list is that I have tried the TR3X6G1333C9 in my motherboard, and it didn't work!

Is it in the Gigabyte QVL for the board also? If so then I stand corrected.


Thanks for the info notshy!

I tried the QPI at 1.2 v which was within 0.5v of the DRAM 1.64v, so I do not think it is that. The thing that gets me is I am just trying to run at stock not OC speeds and this should not be so difficult.

It might be worth a last ditch try at 1.355v and 1.66v ? I went for that based off the testing conditions that Corsair put the RAM under.
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #212 on: November 08, 2010, 06:05:42 pm »

I went for them as they were on the supported list, I'd heard good things and Corsair guaranteed that exact model to work with the motherboard - http://www.corsair.com/configurator/product_results.aspx?id=1362102

The thing with that list is that I have tried the TR3X6G1333C9 in my motherboard, and it didn't work!

Is it in the Gigabyte QVL for the board also? If so then I stand corrected.


Just checked and no, they aren't on the QVL http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-x58a-ud3r_v2.0.pdf

However, they are mentioned in the link that you sent, they are suggested for the 'enthusiast' user! So it's a little confusing really...
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notshy

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #213 on: November 08, 2010, 06:12:53 pm »
Just checked and no, they aren't on the QVL http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-x58a-ud3r_v2.0.pdf

However, they are mentioned in the link that you sent, they are suggested for the 'enthusiast' user! So it's a little confusing really...

I did notice that there used to be 3 models of RAM in that Corsair link and now there are 2, as we've all said before - I think it's just a case of either trialling different RAM makes until we find ones that work - or waiting 1-6 months for the BIOS to be updated to work with more RAM makes/models
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #214 on: November 08, 2010, 06:23:28 pm »
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they are suggested for the 'enthusiast' user! So it's a little confusing really...

Not really confusing. They are just emphasising that you must be very enthusiastic to get them to work ;D

Simples.
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #215 on: November 08, 2010, 06:24:40 pm »
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they are suggested for the 'enthusiast' user! So it's a little confusing really...

Not really confusing. They are just emphasising that you must be very enthusiastic to get them to work ;D

Simples.

LOL! Maybe my cursing and swearing at them wasn't the right sort of enthusiasm...
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fatbobuk

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #216 on: November 08, 2010, 08:03:37 pm »
Getting them to work is easy

Getting them to work as they should is IMPOSSIBLE !!!!

Waiting for a revisied BIOS or option besides RMA is @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

FunkyErn

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #217 on: November 11, 2010, 09:46:50 am »
Right on fatbobuk!!

I am still waiting for the new Kingston RAM to arrive (from a different supplier as the original does not stock Kingston). The system with the Corsair RAM still has the cold boot memory failures. Bizarrely enough for the first time ever it cold booted fine this morning - which shocked me. Could it have miracolously fixed itself??? NO! I switched it off, had breakfast and tried it again and the old familiar combo of blue Memtest screen with bright red flashed back into life again... This is interesting - it would explain how it passed the supplier's testing - it can very rarely start up correctly. If this was purely a thermal issue on the RAM I would not expect to see this variance.

The saga continues... will let you know how the new memory works.

If that does not resolve it - will RMA the motherboard, Corsair RAM and processor back to supplier.
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #218 on: November 11, 2010, 09:56:35 am »
I am not sure how it is done in Gigabyte's factories but in most manufacturing plants  the product is only batch tested which basically means that a given percentage of the output is pulled for testing. This is normally done as randomly as possible and will be a few % of the total. If a sample fails then a more thorough testing is done to ascertain if there is a bad batch or just a faulty component or such.
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fatbobuk

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #219 on: November 11, 2010, 01:01:16 pm »
Yesterday a Fc5 Bios was posted and now this morning a FC Bios has been posted

AM trying The FC one but will have to wait for cold boot results but Hot boot is OK except for still having to have Flash Drive in USB port

Will post results

notshy

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #220 on: November 11, 2010, 03:56:23 pm »
I saw that bios FC doesn't say anything about improving RAM compatibility ! I'll update to it tonight!
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #221 on: November 11, 2010, 03:57:51 pm »
Forgive my French but b****ks!!! I've just spoken to 'Scam' and have been told that my board works fine and I have to now pay them £10 for testing and £10 for delivery plus VAT.

This wasn't explained to me when I sent it back and it certainly wasn't included in the emails they sent me. I'm tempted to just leave it with them and tell them to stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

However, in a moment of sanity I've asked them to tell me what components they have test it with so I can see what they have to say.
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notshy

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #222 on: November 11, 2010, 04:02:21 pm »
Sorry to hear that man - that's rubbish !!!!
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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #223 on: November 11, 2010, 04:10:42 pm »
Sorry to hear that man - that's rubbish !!!!

Did they charge you for sending your board back as well?
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notshy

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Re: Cold boot failures x58A-ud3r Rev2 bios FB
« Reply #224 on: November 11, 2010, 04:14:38 pm »
I didn't send mine back in the end - I forked out for my new Corsair Ram for £125 on top of the  £165 that I spent on that OCZ RAM. I'm now selling those OCZ old chips.

It wasn't so straight forward for me to send my board back as it was bought by someone else for me.
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