Need help re-assembling/testing a RMA'd Gigabyte 890XA-UD3 v.1

[soarwitheagles]

Hi Soar,

Thank you for your kind words and feelings for the forum, Absic and I (well MOST of them)!

I totally agree with your sentiment that when you buy something new it should just work stragiht out of the box. THe trouble is as these computer get faster and more complex they bring with them a plethora of problems that we wouldn't have had  on the older ones. The memory is a good case in point. Years ago any old RAM would work in just about any motherboard and you didn't have to research whether it was compatible with this particular chipset on your mobo.

I think you have a slightly bias view of Gigabyte boards as you have been using them recently and spending a lot of time on the forum where you see all the problems come to the surface. It can give you an jaundiced view. Try spending some time on the Asus forum and you will find the same. I will say that Gigabyte are much better than Asus when it comes to Technical support (well apart from the time it takes to answer) and for RMAs.
Obviously I can't speak for all the other manufacturers but I am sure they are all fairly much the same in general.

As they say "You pays your money and takes your choice"!

DM,

Thank you much for giving me a new perspective on the MB industry.  Ok, I'll stay with Gigabyte since you say they are the very best [but are you sure your nose isn't growing when you say Gigabyte is better]?

BTW, I keep trying to do multiple posts here but still do not know how...can you help me please?

Thanks,

Soar

[soarwitheagles]

DM quote

THe trouble is as these computer get faster and more complex they bring with them a plethora of problems that we wouldn't have had  on the older ones. The memory is a good case in point. Years ago any old RAM would work in just about any motherboard and you didn't have to research whether it was compatible with this particular chipset on your mobo.

I could not agree more ..This is my very first GB MoBo and I came from the A's..They also have their problems..I have yet to find any forum that is more helpful than this one..Both moderators as well as users like us..

The entire industry is rushing to bring out the" NEWEST and BEST" from chip Manufacturers to board makers..Unfortunately  the
consumers have to "pick up the pieces"..To be fair though,the advances in home computers has been phenomenal..
I am in awe in my lifetime, how the electronics industry has advanced..I find that rather exciting..
Take care,
jolphil

Jolphil,

You are absolutely right!  I grew up in Silicon Valley and you can actually feel the "go faster" pressure there.  Apple headquarters was a half mile from our house.  Intel's headquarters was 10 miles away and AMD' HQ was 15 miles away.  You can actually feel the pressure of the computer industry there.  The computer industry has had a profound effect upon real estate as well there.  My parents house that cost only $70,000 some years ago is now worth $2 million.

You say DM and Absic are the best moderators in the world...ok, how much did they pay you to say that and are they giving you any fringe benefits?

BTW are you from Texas or the East Coast?

Soar

[Dark Mantis]

Hi Soar

Gigabyte are certainly as good as any other manufacturer out there and iin some ways better (I mean none of the others have absic and I to help them sort out their problems ).

When you ask about multiple posts, I take it that what you really mean is multiple quotes in a single post?  If that is right send me an email so I have your address again as I misplaced it.

[jolphil]

BTW are you from Texas or the East Coast?

Soar

Soar
I grew up from South New Jersey but later in life  lived  in Calif.(LA Area) for a very short time..Then back to the East Coast..
About 21 years ago I retired and moved to Central Florida..(21 years? Has it been that long?)
Old dude,
jolphil

[soarwitheagles]

BTW are you from Texas or the East Coast?

Soar

Soar
I grew up from South New Jersey but later in life  lived  in Calif.(LA Area) for a very short time..Then back to the East Coast..
About 21 years ago I retired and moved to Central Florida..(21 years? Has it been that long?)
Old dude,
jolphil

Jolphil,

Wow!  Jersey and Florida!  I remember Florida for the warmth and citrus.  Nice place to live.  I do not know much about New Jersey but I remember it as close to New York.  It must have been a nice place to live.

So now you have an excellent hobby of computer building and you must enjoy it a lot!  What do you like most about it?  I enjoy searching for components, the build process, and best of all, when I turn it on and it works well!  I noticed I feel very satisfied after building a new system and it works well.  It is fun.

Enjoy the good weather there Jolphil!  Enjoy your new build too!  BTW, what exactly have you built there for your computer?  Mine are listed in my signature.  I am presently wanting to put together Intel's 2500K and Gigabyte's GA P67-UD3 both of which are sitting on my desk, calling my name, and looking at me everyday!

Soar

[soarwitheagles]

Hey everyone!

I just found another problem as I was preparing to put the bare essentials together tonight...I was shocked at what I found...the Corsair H70 was leaking water profusely at the attachment point where the intake hose meets the motor...fortunate for me I noticed it just as I was about to attach the H70 to the processor and motherboard...what gave it away in an obvious manner is the smell...it smells exactly like anti-freeze from my truck  and van.

I think this is a computer builder's worst nightmare!

The good news is that I smelled and saw the drops of water dripping off the attachment point before attaching the H70.  I  am certain it would have caused a massive shortage.  The bad news is that I must now either wait until I purchase a new H70 or receive a new H70 RMA'd to my home.  Either way, this just put be back another couple of days....AAAAAUUUUGGGGHHHHH!

Well, best to have discovered droplets leaking off the H70 now rather than many more droplets coming out my eyes as I see my nice 890XA-UD3 go up in smoke!

At this very moment, the water keeps dripping out slowly but surely, one drop after another after I set it on my workbench. I have counted 3-4 drops in the last hour. I am totally new to water cooling so I have some questions:

1. Do H70's leak often?
2. What would cause my H70 to leak?
3. Why does the fluid smell so strongly like anti-freeze?
4. Why does it keep dripping [is the unit under pressure or something like that]?
5. What should I do now?

Someone please give me some help.
Soar

[Dark Mantis]

Hi Soar,

I haven't heard of any leaking before but of course the H70 is fairly new and they might have changes the spec a bit since the H50. One thing I did notice though is that there is no pipe clips on there. This is a big no no for watercoolers in general and I reckon with a couple of well placed clips your problem wouldn't have arisen in the first place.

Obviously what you doo about it now is up to you but the options are to place a couple of clips or even cable ties as ar often used around the pipes or wait and RMA it. Either way a couple of clips/ties to make sure it doesn't happen again would be prudent.

[absic]

Hi Soar,

As DM says a couple of cable ties or clips will solve the problem but I wouldn't try and do anything with your current H70. These are sold as sealed units and any coolant leakage can't be replaced. I would hold off on your rebuild until you can RMA it.

Of course, another option is to do what I did and avoid any water based cooling by getting a decent Air Cooler! 

[bytheway_r]

With how cool new CPUs and GPUs run I'm also more inclined towards air cooling. Much less troublesome and unless you want to push your machine to the limit there's not much point in WC. If you're not going to overclock much / at all then air may work better in terms of noise, too ( though here it depends on your GPU ). I mean, nothing can beat passive in terms of noise .

[Dark Mantis]

I would agree that watercooling isn't so important with these new chips at the moment but I expect they will start to warm up as the BIOS becomes more highly tweaked and the chips get overclocked more. Besides it isn't really the CPUs that make the noise it is the GPUs.

I have watercooled everything in my system and I bet in total it isn't more that 20dB of noise. Show me any aircooled system that can run that quietly when fully stressed!

[soarwitheagles]

Hi Soar,

I haven't heard of any leaking before but of course the H70 is fairly new and they might have changes the spec a bit since the H50. One thing I did notice though is that there is no pipe clips on there. This is a big no no for watercoolers in general and I reckon with a couple of well placed clips your problem wouldn't have arisen in the first place.

Obviously what you doo about it now is up to you but the options are to place a couple of clips or even cable ties as ar often used around the pipes or wait and RMA it. Either way a couple of clips/ties to make sure it doesn't happen again would be prudent.

Thanks DM for your reply.  Ok, I went to Corsair's Forum and I was surprised that there is not even one post that mentions a leaking H70!  I suppose that is great news for those trying to decide whether or not to purchase one.

Ok, I sent in the RMA request and will see how long it takes to receive a new one.

I did not want to wait weeks, so I went to Fry's today and picked up another new H70 [at full price].  I really want to get this AMD 1055T system back up and running.  I miss it.

Will let you know how the process goes.

Take good care!

Soar

[Dark Mantis]

Hi Soar,

Just don't forget the cable ties this time just to be safe.

You were asking about the liquid last time and I forgot to answer you so I will now. The anti-freeze in a car is not just to stop the coolant freezing in cold weather it also helps with heat transfer so that is another good reason for using it. Along with that it also helps prevent corrosion so that is also a bonus. Normally it is Ethyl Glycol or something similar and I expect they use the same sort of solution in the Corsair H50 and H70 coolers.

[soarwitheagles]

Hi Soar,

As DM says a couple of cable ties or clips will solve the problem but I wouldn't try and do anything with your current H70. These are sold as sealed units and any coolant leakage can't be replaced. I would hold off on your rebuild until you can RMA it.

Of course, another option is to do what I did and avoid any water based cooling by getting a decent Air Cooler! 

Thanks absic for your suggestions.  I did not want to wait any longer to reassemble this AMD system so I picked up a new H70 this morning.  After switching to water cooling I think I'd never go back to air-cooled again.  I am uncomfortable with small CPU air coolers as well as monster air-cooled CPU coolers.  The Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler weighs 1240 grams...and I am not comfortable with 1240 grams per square inch or so of pressure on my nice, sensitive, tender, delicate, moody motherboard.

I think the Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler is roughly 10 times the weight of the Corsair 70 motor that rests on the CPU and motherboard.

Soar

[jannie]

Heyy Absic who is this  Ethyl Glycol  does she know about your wrinkled prunes......

[Dark Mantis]

Hahahaha!