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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2011, 05:27:44 pm »
Aussie, Thanks again for all your help just wanted to start off saying that. 

Any suggestions on how best to pry off that blue cover?  I am reading elsewhere online that just removing that cap will significantly drop the temperature, so we may have our problem solved by doing so.  I just want to know how to do it correctly, so can you help me with instructions on how best to do it?

When it cold boots it starts around 38 then gradually rises to 50-51, and thats while idle, Im not even doing anything with it. 

I am getting the same temp readings using Easy Tune 6 AND Speedfan.   

Im not sure if they had the heat pipe off.  This was a 2nd RMA.  I originally had a rev 1.0 and sent it back twice.  This is a 2.0 replacement they sent me.  I rebuilt, installed windows and started getting high temps.  Havent even done anything with it yet. 
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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2011, 10:44:09 pm »
Aussie, Thanks again for all your help just wanted to start off saying that. 

Any suggestions on how best to pry off that blue cover?  I am reading elsewhere online that just removing that cap will significantly drop the temperature, so we may have our problem solved by doing so.  I just want to know how to do it correctly, so can you help me with instructions on how best to do it?

When it cold boots it starts around 38 then gradually rises to 50-51, and thats while idle, Im not even doing anything with it. 

I am getting the same temp readings using Easy Tune 6 AND Speedfan.   

Im not sure if they had the heat pipe off.  This was a 2nd RMA.  I originally had a rev 1.0 and sent it back twice.  This is a 2.0 replacement they sent me.  I rebuilt, installed windows and started getting high temps.  Havent even done anything with it yet. 

  Let me dig the one I removed out of the spares and shares box in the morning for a definitive answer.....from memory it's only .8/.9mm soft Aluminum held in place with low density polymer adhesive........you just have to remember you have a chip underneath it......so a hammer and chisel is out of the question :D

  Speak to you tomorrow.......Aussie Allan
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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2011, 08:28:47 am »
Hi

Firstly let me just make sure that you are aware  that if you remove the Northbridge cooler or part of it you will lose your warranty.

Next I would advoise you to uninstal all your free software that came with the motherboard as that can cause problems on it's own.

You say you have enough fans but don't mention how they are configured or what sizes they are. Please list.

Normally you should be looking at roughly 40C for the Northbridge as over that can cause issues.

What is your ambient temperature ?
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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2011, 03:18:31 pm »
Mantis, thanks for chiming in.  I think you helped out on my first posts when I RMA'd the first board.  

At this point I am not concerned with "the warranty".    The only way this board is leaving the house is in the trash!  This is the third time I have had to rebuild because of RMA, and I don't even overclock.  I wont send it out again.  

 I use my machines for video transcoding.    I have RMA'd twice now and what they sent me back has caused me just as many issues.  This is my backup PC.  In the middle of the RMA's I bought a different brand MOBO and that computer is running great.  

I removed the plates.  Temps are not any lower.  They even got to 53C.  I have 4, 120 mm fans, two blowing out surrounding the cpu, and two blowing in One on front bezel, and one on the side blowing right on the northbridge.  Using a thermaltake V3 black case.  Ambient temp is 70F/21C  Oh...and I have the Fans set to Auto in the bios. 
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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2011, 03:53:45 pm »


  Right ....found it......Double sided foam tape so you won't have a problem with warranty as well...........wedge a fine blade scew driver under the high edge and exert 1 or2 LBs of pressure.....no more......it will start moving......just keep a constant , light pressure up to it and it will pop off in good time.........if no change.........Because of the heat pipe.........not cost effective to remove as then you have the Mosfet area to contend with as well.

  Beside opening a ticket with Giga for clarification as to the highish temp...........(What I would do)    buy a high performance chip cooler and fan, good double sided thermal tape...... and put it directly ontop of the problem chip cooler..........might not look pretty, but probably the best option for you before water cooling........Hope this helps.

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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2011, 04:02:24 pm »
I agree as long as the warranty isn't a concern for you now. I would remove the cover and add a dedicated fan blowing directly down on the heatsink.
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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2011, 05:39:30 pm »
I am unsure how to mount a dedicated fan there?  How would I mount it and where would I mount it too?  Something has to hold it there? 

Thanks to both of you for your help.  I really appreciate being able to come to these forums and receive help. 
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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2011, 06:22:38 pm »
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For the Chipset temperature 60 °C that is normal -> Tcase_max 100 °C

http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/designguide/320840.pdf

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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2011, 08:43:16 pm »
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For the Chipset temperature 60 °C that is normal -> Tcase_max 100 °C

http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/designguide/320840.pdf

Pierre



Hiya Pierre

   Intel might say 60C is a normal OT (operational temp) ...... Doesn't make it right though! ...... just like 80C is a fine OT for modern GPUs....

  This is a point I will put my left knacker on again!..........The higher the temp of any component........the lower the MTBF ( Mean Time Before Failure)

 This is well documented across the net........reducing temps even 10% can substantially increase product life..........why do you think so many high end player ultimately end up water cooling........I'd say half do it for the clock, but the other half do it to protect there expensive toys.

  It's no mistake that most memory manufactures give life time warranty's now that heat sinks have become almost bog standard......

  Now for you nfwego .... How's the boy enjoying all the attention and traffic?

  The reason I suggested putting on a "Heat-sink and fan combo" is it makes it easy........the fan is already professionally matched and mounted on the sink.........adding the heat-sink to the one already installed will increase the cooling Mass/volume substantially increasing the air cooling area.........And three..........the top (new) heat-sink will be cooler then the one underneath .......... this will draw BTUs (heat) out of the lower sink more efficiently then a fan alone.........and the DIY gem is all you need is a good, high quality double sided thermal Tape........Hell, if you don't trust tape.......use thermal Epoxy

  If you're a hand at PC-DIY , ....by all means, try the fan only first......you have nothing to loose except a little time ;)  Hope this helps!

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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2011, 09:05:28 pm »
Agreed Alan.  I have never had this high of temps on a board...and again...thats while idling and NOT overclocked. 

Attention?  As I said, I really appreciate the input. 

OK...I went to my local computer store and found very limited selection.  Am looking online also.  Does that heat pipe attach the north bridge heat sink?  Or does the heat sink sit on top of it?  Seems everything I find doesnt have any sort of attachment for the heat pipe assembly.   
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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2011, 09:12:24 pm »
Yes the heatpipe is attached to the Northbridge heatsink. I am not sure if it can be removed but that is getting a bit more dangerous.
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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2011, 09:28:58 pm »


  As DM stated.....Yes! it's Epoxied in (pipe in the extrusion).......I know, could not help myself pulling it apart ;D .... should see me with a thermo-nuclear device ::)

  It ties the Nothbridge cooler with the Mosfet cooler via a single Alcohol wicked heat-pipe.......if you loose one you'll have to loose both.....you don't want to go their.

  Online will give you better choice......as an after thought you could use some Enzotech MOS-C10 Passive Copper Ram Chipset Coolers........come in a pack of ten for a fiver....... in conjunction with the fan you already have in place ......just might do the trick.... ;)

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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2011, 10:55:00 pm »
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I have add a 10 centimeters fan to 45 degrees on the graphics card above and facing down the motherboard.

It sends air between the graphics card and the memory sticks .

The temperature of the chipset has reduced from 7 to 8 degrees

For a fan there should be more powerful but in this case the noise of the machine increases sharply

I have some good servers fan's but too much noise

Panaflow FBA12G12H ( 12 volts 06.A )

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=477

With two on the dust cover of the box all the temperatures drop 10 degrees but the sound is terrible !!

Just at this time my chipset is a 56 degrees but the temperature in the shack is 35 degrees ( it's a little heat wave right now )

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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2011, 11:20:53 pm »
FSBJR, Thanks for adding to the discussion. 

Mantis and Allan...Just to make sure Im getting this right...the heat pipe is attached to the heatsink......soooooooo, how can I put a heatsink on there without taking them apart?  Am I making sense?  Wouldnt I have to find an almost identical heatsink that allows for the heatpipe to be attached?  If I used the ones you reccommended  (MOS-C10), what would I do with the heatpipe? 

 
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Re: System Temps GA-X58A-UD3R
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2011, 11:53:23 pm »
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That  is as my GA-X58A-UD5 for air flow only solution is to add a fan 
 
I think that exist a special waterblock for ICH + MOSFET for your motherboard but with many money !!

Pierre



 
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