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Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« on: August 26, 2011, 05:40:23 pm »
My motherboard is a Ga-790xta-ud4 bios version f4a.

The ability to disable USB power save has vanished from the usb section in device manager. Why is this? How can I change this.

On first install, the option is there when selecting a usb hub or host controller (unsure which one) with in the device manager. When I update drivers using the disc supplied the tab with the power save option with init totaly disapears. I've also update the drivers from gigabyte, the nec 3 update etc. This update gives me a power save option for the usb 3.0 via a usb host controller app in the start menu. This power save option is not available on the standard Nec drivers/app that come on the motherboard disc.

I'm running the board with 4 2gb ram stick at 1600 (took some googling) and 2 raided 500GB through the marvel chip, still not achieving the 12g 4x faster, lol.


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Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2011, 08:35:50 am »
Hi and welcome.

If I can deal with your last point first, you are lucky that your RAID is actually running right still and hasn't dropped any of your drives. The Marvell chip just doesn't work as it should do and so it is advisable to use those ports purely for single disks or optical drives etc. Otherwise you stand the chance of losing your data at the least.

The driver and application disk  that is supplied is usually out of date because they are made in huge batches and hence the reason why we always advise downloading the drivers rather than using the supplied disk.

You might want to read this regarding your memory speeds and it might save you a lot of heartache.

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2515.0.html

« Last Edit: August 30, 2011, 07:45:07 am by Dark Mantis »
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Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save & added raid discussion
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2011, 07:48:51 pm »
Thank you for the link. looks like I will be reverting back to 1333. Will be comenting in that thread regarding the situation.

I've installed all the updated drivers from gigabyte, it's these drivers that seem to have made the power save option disapear.

Another question could be, does the disable power save option in the nec 3.0 host controller application, the 1 found in the start menu, disable power saving for all usb ports?

As for raid, up until a few months back I had no idea about all this 1.5/3/6 gbs. I already have sata 2 drives but rushed out for some sata 3's after reading in my manual that I could raid them for 4x the speed. I didn't have a problem setting raid up on the marvel chip but after not achieving what I expected I stubled across this forum. I did try it on the normal sata's after reading it didn't work on the marvel but I hit a wall when attempting that. I've reverted back to the marvel chip but not run my system long enough to notice it have a problem.

The PC is used for a project music production studio so needs to be very stable. The mix downs run on another pc, with this one controlling hardware, vst's and running large audio files etc so it needs the speed and power.

My first raid attemp actualy got good results when compared to others I've seen. These results have drasticly fallen with my recent raid attempts. Not sure what has changed. Crystal Disk Mark 100MB Seq Read 255 MB/s Write 211 MB/s. Now i'm getting around Read 210 MB/s write 170MB/s guessed avg.


By mitchiemasha at 2011-08-29

Nothing compared to those results, oh yeah. One of the crew had to try it while the computer was in bits.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2011, 07:53:04 pm by Mitchiemasha »

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Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 07:52:42 am »
You need a REVOx2 or x3 if you are after real speed. I have the x2 and am getting around Read 740MB/s Write 690MB/s 100k IOPS but the x3 will double those at least. Literally boots within seconds. The SATA bus is a bottleneck and can only push through a maximum data regardless of the speed of the drive.
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Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2011, 05:59:34 pm »
Thanks, I'll have a read up on them. Any pointers on the USB power save???

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Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 06:55:53 pm »
Hi there,

What OS are you running? I have just checked with my son who is running this board with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit and it is still there on his system.

As DM has already stated, running a RAID array on the Marvell ports is not a good idea. The Marvell 9172 chipset that this board uses never lived up to the hype and the promised speeds were never really obtainable, whatever drives you used on it.

I did do a lot of testing, when I first got this board (before I upgraded and gave it to my son) and I had no end of trouble with dropped drives and system crashes when trying to run a RAID on the Marvell ports and actually got better performance running a RAID on the  SATA 3Gb/s AMD ports.
Remember, when all else fails a cup of tea and a good swear will often help! It won't solve the problem but it will make you feel better.

Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 09:58:36 pm »
I'm running windows 7 64 bit. Strange how it's not there on mine.

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Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 08:40:50 am »
What are your full system specs?
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Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2011, 09:04:24 am »
I'm running windows 7 64 bit. Strange how it's not there on mine.

Have you made sure that you have installed all the chipset drivers up to date ?
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
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6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
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Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2011, 11:17:42 pm »
Motherboard Ga790xta-ud4 Bios f4a
Chip Phenom II 3.4mhz 965 Black Edition Quadcore
Ram  OCZ 2GB PC31280 x4
Graphics Gforce 8600 GT (Soon to be upgraded as the fan on these are to noisey. Not looked into it ultraquite graphic options yet).
PSU Coolermaster 850w Silent Pro
LG Blueray, Carillon Ac-1 rack style housing with front loaded transport controls (usb versions).

Running windows 7 64Bit service pack 1. All drivers installed from gigabyte webpage for the board. Including the NEC USB Driver. Not sure if I'm currently running the latest sata drivers and ahci drivers from the webage what are used for raid etc.

The powermanagement tab what usualy apears in the drvice manager, USB root hub properties is not there. I should get a new install done tonight and see what driver install makes the tab disapear. I'm 100% confident that it was there on fresh install but disapeared when installing drivers from the supplied disc or updates from gigabyte.

I need to turn off the powersave as I'm using an aceess virus TI keyboard via usb.

Thanks again for your help.

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Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2011, 07:23:31 am »
I have just checked on my board and although it is an Intel the option tab is still there. Looking at the tab the only thing I can think would cause it to disappear would be power saving settings in the BIOS. I would suggest checking all your power saving setting in the BIOS and sleep setup options. Also worth checking would be the same thing in Windows as it could be that if you disable it in Windows the option  might not show in Device Manager.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
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Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
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3 x 27" Iiy

Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2011, 11:37:16 pm »
I've done a fresh install and only added the drivers that I downloaded, avoiding using the bundled drivers on the disc. Previously I was using the disc then upgrading to the latest downloads, not sure why I did it that way. The powersave option hasn't disappeared this time.  Although messing about in windows may have disabled it.

Thank you.

I may be buying a new board for the improved marvel chip and amd raid, will be back to square 1. I enjoyed reading http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,5704.0.html absics living review.

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Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 01:32:47 pm »
Glad to hear that it is now sorted and yes I woiuld think that it was down to a Windows Power Saving setting that was why it dissappeared.

Anyway you know where we are if you need any further help with this or the new board when you get it. ;)
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: Ga-790xta-ud4 USB Power Save
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2011, 04:37:41 pm »
wicked, thanks loads.