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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #60 on: September 15, 2011, 07:22:54 am »
You should definitely try removing two of the modules as if you have four they will require setting by hand as auto won't usually hack it. So just put two modules in DDR3_1 and DDR3_3. See how you go from there. If everything works ok then it is probably just the BIOS settings. If not then the RAM needs changing.
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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #61 on: September 15, 2011, 07:42:02 am »
okey ill try that and see if the motherboard reconize the rams and copy the Bios setting if they do and insert all four and but same settings then ?
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« Reply #62 on: September 15, 2011, 07:46:00 am »
The thing is when you fill all the banks with memory modules you are putting a higher loading on the memory controller so usually you will need to increase the voltage a touch to compensate. There are also other settings that also require some tweaking often too the QPI/Vtt etc.
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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #63 on: September 15, 2011, 07:56:09 am »
So what your saying is that if the rams aint compatible you have to do that all manual ? since the board to recognize the ram  ??? ???

or if its not campatible it dosent work at all ?

how do i know what settings i should use then if the m-board dont now how ?
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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #64 on: September 15, 2011, 08:07:19 am »
If the motherboard and memory just isn't compatible then there is little that you can do to change that.  If however it is just a case of running with a full compilment of memory modules then manually setting them up can often make all the difference.

The timings and voltages required are usually on the manufacturer's website and often printed on the side of the modules also.
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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #65 on: September 15, 2011, 10:34:37 am »
problem is that i cant even find the Rams on A-datas own webpage i think its a old model and to find specific info about the once i have seam impossible. thing is they are like only 3-4 months old so i would think that they should have soem info


this is what i found

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DDR3-1333G

XPG DDR3 Unbuffered-DIMM Non ECC Memory

In order to provide the growing PC gaming market with the best memory hardware designed for multiple online gamers, DDR3-1333G is available as single channel kits up to 2GB and also as 2GBx2/1GBx2 dual-channel configurations with latency settings at 8-8-8-24. Furthermore, since the next generation Intel Core™ i7 platform using the latest DDR3 technologies has proven that i7's internal controller gives a notable performance increase while using DDR3 triple channel modules. A-DATA is also ready for production of G Series DDR3 triple channel kits providing computer enthusiasts memory modules they need. Also, these new modules are available in 3GB and 6GB configurations. With high capacity up to 6GB, these memories can unleash the true power of 64-bit operating system, Windows Vista® platform.

The whole Gaming Series memory line is customized to fulfill gamers' need of performance and stability. A-DATA G Series modules are guaranteed to satisfy the needs of the most demanding multiple online gamers as well as professional graphic designers and multimedia auditors.

Suitable for: Desktop PCs
Module Type: 240Pin Unbuffered-DIMM Non-ECC
Capacity Available: 4GB Dual Channel Kit (2GBx2)、2GB Dual Channel Kit (1GBx2)、2GB Kit (2GBx1)、1GB Kit (1GBx1)
IC Configuration: 128M x8
Transmission Bandwidth: 10666MB/Sec(PC3-10666)
Cas Latency Timing: 8-8-8-24
Working Voltage: 1.65V~1.85V
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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #66 on: September 15, 2011, 12:52:36 pm »

 I may have something for you If you have not tried this as yet

  your memory is rated 8-8-8-24 at 1.65 to 1.75v..........is your memory voltage at 1.5 ...9.9.9.24...?

  Also try to have just one Monitor running while you trouble shoot......4 monitors just adds to the confusion as more voltage may even be required on the PCI-E voltage....(It is just one GPU you're running)

           TRY THIS!

  Set your memory manually to begin with to the following settings......9.9.9.24 timings .... speed at 1333.....not 1033....not 1600    but 1333..........set your memory voltage from 1.5v to 1.66 manually as well.........if stability is still a problem but a little better.....increase QPI/VTT .125  of a volt..........(Very Very important ...Memory voltage MUST be within .5 of a volt of PQI/VTT or damage to the controller on the CPU may result)  so if your default QPI/VTT is 1.135v.....The max you can have your memory is 1.635v to keep the .5v ratio .....this is why I sujested raising your QPI/VTT a tad.......this is also , probably required as you're filling all the slots.......I have 24GB in my system and had to do a fair bit of little changes to get them 99.999% stable......I also went through 2 brands and 3 sets before finding what works for me!....

  if your memory is not compatible with your system.....there's not a lot we can do about it......it's just one of those things you have to deal with!

  If the memory proves to be not compatible.......you have grounds to return them for a exchange to a brand that does work....I'm quoting off the info you posted bellow.....

                                                                         "QUOTE"

  The whole Gaming Series memory line is customized to fulfill gamers' need of performance and stability. A-DATA G Series modules are guaranteed to satisfy the needs of the most demanding multiple online gamers as well as professional graphic designers and multimedia auditors.

  I'm not saying this is the 100% problem/answer........just it is the most likely and with these manually configured settings.........you will have the best chance of getting this brand/type of memory to work with your system........having had to deal with a second problem that was the PSU has made this whole process extremely painful for you.....where all just doing the best we can to help you!

  PS....I should have been more specific with my English....."knock it back a peg".... should have been....Revert back to the previous BIOS"

  If you have any hair left.....report back your findings ;)

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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #67 on: September 15, 2011, 01:15:03 pm »
ill check the Bios when i get home and check what its sett to and post it here

since im not english i had a hard time to under stand this part

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increase QPI/VTT .125  of a volt..........(Very Very important ...Memory voltage MUST be within .5 of a volt of PQI/VTT or damage to the controller on the CPU may result)  so if your default QPI/VTT is 1.135v.....The max you can have your memory is 1.635v to keep the .5v ratio

you mean if i raise memory voltage to 1.660 i have to raise the QPI/VTT to 1.160 volt ? and i shouldent change the timing to 8-8-8-24 then ?

did i understand it right
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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #68 on: September 15, 2011, 01:51:34 pm »
 you mean if i raise memory voltage to 1.660 i have to raise the QPI/VTT to 1.160 volt ?............ Yes you are correct.....QPI/VTT must not drop below .5 of a volt of the Memory voltage regardlesss........... and i shouldent change the timing to 8-8-8-24 then ?.........You could try leaving them there......I just though temporarily you could loosen the timings to 9-9-9-24 which should be even more stable but you must raise the voltage to 1.66 at least to comply with the manufactures voltage recommendation at 1033 or what I recommended of 1333

  Just to be absolutely clear......running this memory at 8.8.8.24 at 1.50volts and 1033Mhz is the stock speed......anything faster is technically overclocking as far as JEDEC is concerned....(Yes it's complicated) even though it's marketed and sold as 8.8.8.24 1600

  When you get a bit more use to playing around in the BIOS with the memory.....I would not be surprised.....   if it ran quite happily at 1033 with 1.5v - 7.8.7.20


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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #69 on: September 15, 2011, 05:12:06 pm »
okey tryed dram voltage 1.660 and QPI/VTT 1.160

first of all the Dram voltage 1.660 is pink color instead of white like warning i guess

first time it freezes in windows loading screen mouse/keyboard dies on screen connected nothing ells

reboot and then this came up



and this is what Bios look like



with this setting and all 4 rams no changes to the problem =( still windows freeze on load up and mouse/keyboard die. Strang thing is when i lower the voltage to standard or auto i get further in to windows and can do stuff for a while before it freezes
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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #70 on: September 15, 2011, 07:11:31 pm »

 Did you get a BSOD and what was the code........was it 00000x124 ? ....  or 0x0A ?

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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #71 on: September 15, 2011, 07:56:52 pm »
this is what uselly happens

1. Computer freezez in windows logg in process and keyboard/mouse die

2 windows loads and i get in to windows and it load all autostart program etc and keyboard/mouse dies

i writing this with out a mouse since its dead and dont work i got lights on them and they are dead to on it it dosent matter if i switch usb it still dont run

Edit moved the mouse to 3.0/2.0 usb port and now everything seams to work strangely enough now is the question for how long
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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #72 on: September 15, 2011, 08:02:03 pm »

 ....1  Did you get a BSOD and what was the code........was it 00000x124 ? ....  or 0x0A ?

 ....2 do you have a PS2 keyboard (old fashion one) and a old/different mouse .... I know it's frustrating but you need to answer the questions as well as letting me know whats happening

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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #73 on: September 15, 2011, 08:04:53 pm »
dident get any BSOD at all yet

and now it seams to work but i dont now for how long and if it is stable  :-[ :-[

going to leave te comp runing for a while and see what happens i dont dare to restart it now :P
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Re: Gigabyte P67A-AD4-B3 (rev 1,1) ram problems =(
« Reply #74 on: September 15, 2011, 08:07:57 pm »

 So one of use is recording settings....what changes have you made in the BIOS as in what is the machine running on at the moment that is not AUTO......Memory, QPI/VTT Volts ?

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