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Overclocking, Benching, Events, Tweaking & Modding => Overclocking motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: kaborka on July 28, 2010, 08:20:01 pm
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Hello -- First post here. I just purchased my GA-880GA-UD3H and PhII as a package deal. The v2.0 board came with the F1 BIOS which was missing the "CPU Core Control" BIOS option. I updated to F4a, which added the option. However, the only available option when set to manual control is to disable Core 1. I tried this, and the system booted with one CPU!
My understanding was the board is capable of unlocking up to four cores on the PhII 555. Is this correct? If so, how?
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CPU Unlock needs to be changed to Enabled.
Exclusive Auto Unlock technology provides hardware-based solution for unleash CPU performance
Advanced BIOS Features
CPU Unlock (Note)
Allows you to determine whether unlock hidden CPU cores. (Default: Disabled)
CPU core Control
Allows you to determine whether to manually enable/disable CPU Core 2 and Core 3. Manual allows the two items below to be configurable.
>>>Auto Lets the BIOS to enable all CPU cores (number of cores available depends on the CPU being used). (Default)
>>>Manual Allows you to individually enable/disable CPU Core 2 and Core 3.
CPU core 2 (Note)
Enables or disables CPU Core 2. (Default: Enabled)
CPU core 3 (Note)
Enables or disables CPU Core 3. (Default: Enabled)
(Note) This item is present only if you install a CPU that supports this feature.
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Thanks, Tiger, I missed that setting. The board booted nicely with all 4 enabled. Memtext86+ now reports it as a PhII X4 B55. Once I get my drives set up, I'll see how it does in Windows.
Thanks again.
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Hi,
I also have a 880G board, ga-880gma-ud2h, but am having difficulties getting to unlock with a 555be. I can manage 4ghz, but no extra cores :(
What settings have you enabled to get 4 cores? Presumably enabled the CPU unlock and then either manual or auto? Any other options you have changed?
update:
Although when I originally started using the machine the cpu unlock options where for core 2 and core 3, now it just lists core 0 and core 1 :( Also on boot the cpuid and patch number are displayed, is this normal or perhaps is the proper microcode not in place to recognise this core?
Cheers
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I would just like to point out, in case of relevancy to other users that not all AMD CPU with extra locked cores can be unlocked. It used to be the case more that you could buy a cheaper model CPU and then unlock extra cores but often now with better binning this is not the case. :(
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Yes, I am aware the chances of core unlock aint so great these days, but just trying all the options.
On the flip side 4ghz does come at 1.4v vcore :)
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What settings have you enabled to get 4 cores? Presumably enabled the CPU unlock and then either manual or auto? Any other options you have changed?
No other options changed. If you're only seeing 2 cores with CPU Unlock enabled, something is wrong.
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If you are still having problems unlocking the cores see this other thread I found: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2476.0.html ;)
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What settings have you enabled to get 4 cores? Presumably enabled the CPU unlock and then either manual or auto? Any other options you have changed?
No other options changed. If you're only seeing 2 cores with CPU Unlock enabled, something is wrong.
Well ye see this is what I though, motherboard options for unlocking now read
Cpu unlock
Cpu core control
Cpu core 0
Cpu core 1
as opposed to cpu core 2/3 as in the manual and as people describe on the internet. I've tried reflashing the bios a few times but it seems locked to this mode :/ Im sure when I first installed the board it would read core 2/3 as it should.
Also, on boot, where i'd expect the processor speed to be displayed it shows id numbers for the processor instead. I have a theory I may have to wait for a bios update before this chip is fully recognised, the board also has issues correctly getting the spd settings from my ram.
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Maybe there is a fault on the board or chip?
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Yes, perhaps.
I have submitted a querry to technical support regarding this issue suggesting a new bios with new microcode. Will update as and when I hear anything.
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I have the same issue showing up on this same board. Have you had any response from technical support sideburns? Anyone have an update on this issue?
Any information on this would be appreciated =).
Note: If I have broken protocol by posting here instead of creating a new thread I apologize and let me know; I just thought consolidating this on one thread would be preferable.
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
No problem posting here as you say just as well continue the same thread. I am afraid I don't know the outcome of this particular problem.
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Thanks for the heads up DM. I've read around a number of forums and threads and it seems like this is a common problem with the Gigabyte 8XX series boards. Apparently they can't unlock extra cores reliably, and I've yet to see successful unlocks with any of them.
It's a shame since this was an excellent feature of the 7XX series boards. Hopefully Gigabyte will get this resolved in a future BIOS update. Oh well, I'm still happy with build, but if I'd had prior knowledge of this I might have opted for a Asus 8XX series board, although I still largely prefer Gigabyte. 3 of my 4 builds this year have been with Gigabyte boards (Intel not AMD ones though) :)
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In reply I would say that one reason why the 8xx boards are having more trouble with unlocking the extra cores over the 7xx boards is the the binning by AMD has become tighter and ther are not so many CPUs with the extra core that is stable enough to be unlocked and run stably.
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I'm currently e-mailing with the technical staff of Gigabyte.
I also have exactly the similar problem with unlocking the X2 555 on a 880GMA-UD2H
I've tested the same CPU on a MSI 785GM-E51 board and it unlocks without any troubles and problems (and running really stable exactly).
On the latest reply to me, the Gigabyte staff was talking about a F5 version of the BIOS.
I can't find it, but maybe they were confused with the 880GM (without the "A")??
To be really honest, I'm a bit disappointed.
I had the choice to buy this board a a little cheaper board.
I chose the more expensive 880GMA-UD2H board because of the simple and better unlock function (according to the Gigabyte website).
Unfortunately, it isn't working at all >:(
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Dark Mantis, you're absolutely right about better binning, and luck of the draw, however, the issue here isn't so much unstable unlocked cores as it is inability to detect and unlock cores at all on 8xx boards. The BIOS incorrectly shows the unlock options as only Core 0 and Core 1, instead of Core 2 and Core 3 and does not unlock them, whereas other motherboards do.
b_force I'd be very interested in the dialog between yourself and Gigabyte Support, so please keep us updated. I have tried the F4 and the F5 (latest version as of this post) BIOS on the 880GA-UD3H with no luck so far. I have faith in Gigabyte though, and they have a solid reputation for a reason. I'm sure they'll find a solution to this issue :).
I'm likely going to grab an Asus M4A88TD-V for this build so I can deliver it on time for the user and hang onto the 880GA-UD3H for now. It really is a terrific board and I'd hate to have to return it, beside restocking fees hurt a bit :D.
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Unfortunately the technical staff isn't replying that fast, so hopefully I've a reply tomorrow.
I can not blame them, but it seems that they tell the same story over and over again (but in other words).
Here you see a document that they send.
Nothing more than the basic steps for unlocking.
BTW. Can I use the GA-880GA-UD3H BIOS for the 880GMA motherboard?
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BTW. Can I use the GA-880GA-UD3H BIOS for the 880GMA motherboard?
Simple answer, no. If you download a different Mobo's BIOS for your motherboard, when you try to install it you should get a checksum error and the update will fail.
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I wonder if you guys can replicate this result on 880 chipsets.
I have an ASUS board, contacted them, they contacted their test beds. Problem is, when core unlocker is enabled, I can't even run as a dual core or single core on my 555. When unabled, I can. Stable, 4GHz, excellent temp and voltage monitoring. Awesome board.
They weren't able to replicate the problem, nor did they really have a clue. For those who are unable to unlock cores on the 880 chipsets, are you able to replicate this issue? Try running with the core unlocker enabled and run it as you would normally run as (dual core for a x2 555).
Wonder if this could bring insight to the problem.
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Ok, I've again reply from Gigabyte staff.
They uploaded the F5 BIOS and I updated my motherboard BIOS.
Result?
........nothing >:( :'(
I've told them that there are more people with exactly the same problem.
I'm wondering if maybe the different revisions are an issue?
@ domino
I can disable one core of the two, so in other words, running a X2 555 with only one core.
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Yeah I've been following the thread over at http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/535501-official-amd-k10-5-core-cache.html (http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/535501-official-amd-k10-5-core-cache.html). I'm waiting for BIOS version F6 beta myself ;D hopefully if and when that comes out it'll resolve the issues.
And yes, I did see that Test555.doc as well, doing the steps there just allows you to run a single core processor ::)
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A reply from Dark Mantis (or any Gigabyte member) would be appreciated ;)
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Hi,
sorry that I haven't replied earlier but I have been trying, without success, to find out a bit more about this problem before posting.
As my old mum always says, "If you haven't got something useful to say, don't say anything."
I am trying to get an answer so please bear with me as it might take a bit of time.
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A reply from Dark Mantis (or any Gigabyte member) would be appreciated ;)
I will leave this to absic as this is his jurisdiction and he knows a lot more about the AMD platform than I do. ;)
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A reply from Dark Mantis (or any other Gigabyte member) would be appreciated ;)
I will leave this to absic as this is his jurisdiction and he knows a lot more about the AMD platform than I do. ;)
HAha, it's all right.
I just want to be sure that some people actually reading my posts :D
@absic
I think it's strange/odd that the Gigabyte staff successfully unlocked the cores.
Maybe they lie (I don't believe that) or maybe it has something to do with different revisions.
Unfortunately I can't find what the differences are between Rev 1.0 and Rev 2.x.
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I am sure absic will be able to sort it out for you if anyone can. He will just keep digging at it until he finds the fault.
I would say one thing and that is did you clear the DMI when you did the BIOS update to F5? If not you might want to try that while you are waiting for absic.
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Yes, we're reading them, just don't have an answer yet. :-[
This is proving to be a little trickier than just a bad driver or power lead not plugged in properly.
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Those were to quick replies :D
See my edit in my post please 8)
I use @BIOS with the DMI clear function on.
absic, if you have any questions or if I can help you with any tests, please ask.
(I've knowledge about electronics, so maybe there is something to measure or so)
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Just for the record I wouldn't advise using the @BIOS program it is much more dangerous than the QFlash utility that we recommend.
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Hi B_Force,
I'm not really sure what tests you can try. If the core unlocking option isn't working properly through BIOS I'm not sure what else you can do.
I have to agree that it seems strange that Gigabyte are saying that the cores can be unlocked but that you are struggling so much. As you say, it could be due to the different revisions but like you, I'm not sure of the differences between them and Gigabyte are always reluctant to specify what they might be.
I will speak to AMD tomorrow and see if they are aware of any problems with unlocking the 555 CPU on the 8 Series motherboards.
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To be honest I would have thought that Gigabyte would have tested with the exact same board. They must keep a library of the different boards for testing purposes.
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To be honest I would have thought that Gigabyte would have tested with the exact same board. They must keep a library of the different boards for testing purposes.
From one test I'm sure they had the rev.1 board.
According to the information they give off-course.
Speaking of BIOS updating.
Does the board have backup system. So when you BIOS updating goes wrong, the board will go to the old BIOS?
(most modern motherboard have that option). Can't find it on the manual/website, but I never tested it ;)
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Yes it does. It is supposed to kick in automatically if the main BIOS gets corrupted but it doesn't always work as it should and needs a little nudge.
Please also confirm for me your BIOS chips have matching BIOS versions in them, if not this can sometimes cause problems.
To check, go into the BIOS and on the MAIN page press F9 for system info. You should see both BIOS versions listed, if they do not match please update the backup BIOS to match the current.
To do that, reboot and where you would normally press DEL to enter the BIOS, instead press Alt + F12, this will flash the Backup BIOS with the MAIN BIOS contents. Do not worry when you see a recovery comment, that is normal and means it is flashing the backup BIOS.
If it doesn't happen first time just redo it.
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I only see the "boot from" menu :-\
(and yes, i've the ALT pressed)
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That is because you are only pressing F12 you must press ALT + F12
I can't understand why you are not getting the ALT function.
Check you haven't got Caps Lock on.
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That is because you are only pressing F12 you must press ALT + F12
I can't understand why you are not getting the ALT function.
Check you haven't got Caps Lock on.
Read my post better, ;) I was pressing ALT.
But after a few retries, it worked.
Nevertheless, not able to see 4 cores.
...wondering what hidden short-cuts there are
I also saw something with "patch amd tlb erratum" in the BIOS file some time ago ;)
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Whilst in the BIOS main menu you can press CTRL + F1 for more options.
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Whilst in the BIOS main menu you can press CTRL + F1 for more options.
Yes, That's a really old trick
But I think we go a little bit offtopic? :D
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@ domino
I can disable one core of the two, so in other words, running a X2 555 with only one core.
I don't know how similar the core unlocking feature is for the ASUS and GIGABYTE boards, but did you try it with the core unlocker enabled? Put core unlocker to enabled and then disable the extra cores to 1/2 cores?
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OK,
I have spoken to the Tech guys at AMD and they are not aware of any specific problems with unlocking cores on the 8 series chipsets and according to them, if the CPU can be unlocked it is probably a BIOS issue.
With that in mind and also the fact that GTS have said they can do it using BIOS F5 would it be possible for you to upload some screen shots of your BIOS? Unfortunately I do not actually have access to this board so can't do any hands on testing, but there might be something that you are missing when attempting to unlock your CPU and the only way of knowing that is looking at the options available from within BIOS that you are running.
I have also asked runn3R, the Forum moderator who works for Gigabyte, to look in on this thread as he might be able to offer another insight to the issues being faced.
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Unfortunately I do not actually have access to this board so can't do any hands on testing, but there might be something that you are missing when attempting to unlock your CPU and the only way of knowing that is looking at the options available from within BIOS that you are running.
Yes, it is always much more difficult to fault find remotely when you don't have access to the same hardware that the OP is using. It instead all comes down to theory.
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I've big news from the technical Gigabyte staff.
They actually called with gigabyte HQ about this problem and they were shocked.
In conclusion, they asked me to send my CPU + motherboard combination for testing. (great deal, but the problem is that I need it every day for my study Bachelor of Engineering Physics, so we are looking for a solution)
When the staff can confirm the problem, they will investigate the issue and they also asked me to send the other motherboard where unlocking is working.
Seems that Gigabyte is damn serious about this problem! 8)
big bonus points for gigabyte from me!! 8)
@ mods
If I tell to much inside information, please don't hesitate to delete it (than also send me a PB please)
@ absic
Maybe you can refer to my issue and this thread if you contact the technical staff?
I will send a PB with the issue number if you like.
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You can never post too much information. It's how you use that knowledge that might cause a problem. ;)
I'm pleased to see that Gigabyte are taking the problem seriously but it seems strange that they want your Mobo, CPU and the MSI board too so they can do the testing. Hopefully they will offer a good solution to help you out.
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Ah you know what it is, they want to copy the BIOS on the MSI board and save themselves a lot of time and trouble ;D
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Maybe you can refer to my issue and this thread if you contact the technical staff?
I will send a PM with the issue number if you like.
Thanks for the offer b-force but I'm a bit like you insofar as I don't have direct contact with Gigabyte except through the standard e-mail system or this Forum, so I don't think I can do too much more than you.
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Ah you know what it is, they want to copy the BIOS on the MSI board and save themselves a lot of time and trouble ;D
I also can make a copy of it :D ;D
Thinking of which.
I really don't know how good other Gigabyte motherboards are with unlocking. (eg the 785 for comparison)
I find another forum board (don't know the link at this moment) were it is clear that MSI boards are very good at unlocking I believe.
But maybe that's because MSI is a little cheaper so people buy more MSI boards and post more results?? (I really don't know)
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Not sure if it down to the motherboards or the actual CPU.
I have managed to unlock the cores on the CPU's I have tried, on all of the Gigabyte Boards I have used that offered the core unlock feature. Even on my current board, the GA-790XTA-UD4 the unlock core feature works perfectly.
But, I haven't tried on an 8 Series board so have no first hand experience to qualify that statement.
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I leave my desk for one day and a whole thread happens :o.
I'm a bit amazed at how responsive Gigabyte has been. I have a very similar issue to b_force, except with the 880GA-UD3H, and I'm eagerly awaiting a resolution myself. Thanks for the updates b_force, absic, Dark Mantis et al, and please do keep it up ;D
For the record I used QFlash for the BIOS updates, and have 'synced' the backup and main chip BIOS.
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I leave my desk for one day and a whole thread happens :o.
That'll teach you to take time off! :D
I'm a bit amazed at how responsive Gigabyte has been.
This is one of Gigabyte's strong points. Once an issue has been found they do try their best to resolve it as quickly as possible.
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Maybe you can refer to my issue and this thread if you contact the technical staff?
I will send a PM with the issue number if you like.
Thanks for the offer b-force but I'm a bit like you insofar as I don't have direct contact with Gigabyte except through the standard e-mail system or this Forum, so I don't think I can do too much more than you.
Hi b_force
Please send me GGTS email ID no. by PM for checking what's going on between our NL branch and you. Thanks
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It's actually Germany :D
(weird, I'm from the Netherlands and the first request was via the Dutch website)
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Well the countries are sort of neighbors I suppose. Cordial ones at that, except for that whole uninvited visit thing in the early to mid 1940s. So it kind of makes sense about the Dutch/Germans crosses?
Wait, what was originally German?
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According to American standards the Netherlands are only just less than one state :D
But one with a hack of knowledge ;D 8) 8)
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Holland has the highest density of people in Europe, and is one of the most densely populated countries in the world, so I think that makes up for it :D. You guys also have the tallest average population in Europe as well, clocking in around 6'2" or something.
Oddly enough I work with about 20 'Dutchies', "...wooden shoes, wooden head, wouldn't listen." as they say ;D.
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You guys also have the tallest average population in Europe as well, clocking in around 6'2" or something.
They have to be taller to be able to carry on breathing when the dykes break ;D
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Nice off-topic talking', but are there any improvements? :D
To bad to live here, you pay a lot for an house, but the surface area you get is just pathetic. ::) :'(
I think I move to somewhere else :D ;)
(Even the poorest in USA have bigger houses then people here with a well-earned income)
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runn3R is looking into it fore you and I am sure as soon as he has an answer he will post again. Trouble is he is a busy man and if he is relying on GGTS for the info it can take some time. :-\
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DM, that's just too funny. Looked into it and apparently they're the tallest in the world...after having historically being among the shortest in Europe. I suspect doping myself =).
Depending on where you live in Canada b_force, it's pretty pricey. In the city I live in, a small condo costs 200K, and a tiny bungalow will run you 400-500K. I think I'll be able to afford my own place in about 10-15 more years :-[.
Now for the Gigabyte staff, I certainly appreciate your diligence greatly. Keep up the good fight and please do let us know as soon as you can what you find :)
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My update from the staff is that they are backing out a little bit.
In my personal opinion, sending your CPU and MSI board is very complicate for both you and me. Would it be ok for you, if just keeping your current issue aside for a while?
Let's just simply wait until someone else complains again in somewhere else with the similar issue. Till then, our HQ colleagues might be trying to get a possible solution for it.
On the other hand, they are trying to arrange something via the Dutch Technical staff (why did I get the German??? ???)
(I also having troubles with booting from USB )
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Where/who did the reply come from? ???
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My update from the staff is that they are backing out a little bit.
In my personal opinion, sending your CPU and MSI board is very complicate for both you and me. Would it be ok for you, if just keeping your current issue aside for a while?
Let's just simply wait until someone else complains again in somewhere else with the similar issue. Till then, our HQ colleagues might be trying to get a possible solution for it.
On the other hand, they are trying to arrange something via the Dutch Technical staff (why did I get the German??? ???)
(I also having troubles with booting from USB )
So you're saying I should open a support ticket with Gigabyte and complain about the same issue?
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Yes I think that the more weight that is brought to bare the more chances of getting something sorted out.
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My update from the staff is that they are backing out a little bit.
In my personal opinion, sending your CPU and MSI board is very complicate for both you and me. Would it be ok for you, if just keeping your current issue aside for a while?
Let's just simply wait until someone else complains again in somewhere else with the similar issue. Till then, our HQ colleagues might be trying to get a possible solution for it.
On the other hand, they are trying to arrange something via the Dutch Technical staff (why did I get the German??? ???)
(I also having troubles with booting from USB )
So you're saying I should open a support ticket with Gigabyte and complain about the same issue?
A very BIG YES!!
@ Dark Mantis
I'm quoting the reply from the technical staff ;)
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@ Dark Mantis
I'm quoting the reply from the technical staff ;)
Personally I think it is a very poor show to send an answer like that to a customer with a problem ::) Very unprofessional.
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@ Dark Mantis
I'm quoting the reply from the technical staff ;)
Personally I think it is a very poor show to send an answer like that to a customer with a problem ::) Very unprofessional.
Yes, but I just don't understand the reaction from that guy.
First he told me I can send my motherboard for investigation and after that he told me this.
Maybe he was to quick in answering and his manager told him that it was not an option or so??
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Alright, I've been very busy at work the last few days, but I'll create a Gigabyte support ticket this weekend. If that was the official response from Gigabyte then I'm severely disappointed after what seemed to be a very positive start on finding a resolution to this problem.
I've much preferred using Gigabyte boards for builds over the last 2 years and would hate to have to switch over; I'm not a fan of AMI BIOS either :-\.
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Gigabyte Support has responded to the ticket I created earlier:
Dear customer,
Not every processor can be unlocked. 555 BE black edition processor has not validated on this board, please test with non black edition processor.
Refer to this web for processors which are validated on mother board.
http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3425
Best regards,
Gigabyte technical support team.
So if I understand the stance Gigabyte has taken on this issue, it's that in their list of supported CPUs the 555 Black Edition is not supported by the board officially, so there will be no forthcoming assistance or solution. There should be no fundamental difference in a BE and non BE processor, other than an unlocked multiplier. If you look at the Gigabyte list none of the processors listed have a BE tag, even processors like the 955 that only comes in Black Edition. So at best they are referring to compatibility list that has errors, or at worst they are using this stance that black editions aren't mentioned as an easy out to shrug this issue off.
Here is the ticket response I sent:
Hello,
Thank you for your timely response. I understand that not every processor can unlock stably, as there was likely a reason additional cores were disabled by AMD. The issue here isn't stability, but a complete inability to recognize disabled cores that are there for a fact. Actually the Core Unlock feature in the BIOS does not work at all on the CPU and only allows for disabling of one of the two AMD enabled cores.
I understand that the supported processor list for the motherobard doesn't explicitly state the Black Edition [BE] of the x2 555. I would like to know what the fundamental differences in architecture is between a regular x2 555 and a x2 555 BE, since both CPUs are exactly the same, except the BEs have unlocked multipliers. I would also point out that strictly Black Edition processors are found on the same list with out Black Edition being explicitly stated to denote them as special or this difference as significant, e.g. 3 models of the x4 955 are listed at the top of the list that are only available as Black Editions, i.e. there is no such thing as a non-Black Edition x4 955.
I was initially very enthusiastic about the responsiveness of Gigabyte after posting on the Gigabyte Support forums, but from the subsequent responses, and the response to this support ticket, I must say I am now quite disapointed.
Am I to understand that Gigabyte has chosen to use the lack of explicit BE tags on their supported list, although there clearly are BE processors on there that are not explicitly denoted as such, as the basis for refusing any support on this issue? Can I expect any further investigation on this issue, or is there no point in following up with requests for a solution?
Regards,
Richard
I've already delivered the system to the user as is, I mean it's fine as is. If you buy a dual core you get a dual core. If the Core Unlock functionality worked and I couldn't unlock any additional cores fine. But having the Core Unlock feature itself not work is a different matter, and a bit annoying. I understand that Gigabyte does its best for its customers, and they can't take time to handle every little issue and complaint. However, the responses from them to date on this issue have been subpar.
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I must admit that the reply is sadly lacking in substance and really just a "pass the buck" stance. An easy get out. As you say technically what difference does it make whether a CPU is classed as Black Edition or not. I do feel that the least they could have done was give a good, rational explantion of why it wouldn't work. :-\
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Well, what can I say? My own understanding is also that the X2 555 BE only differs from the X2 555 by having the multiplier unlocked.
A quick Google search throws up a lot of links of these BE X2 555 CPU's having their cores unlocked, here are just 3 of them:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2927
http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/processors/AMD_Phenom_II_X2_555_Athlon_II_X4_635_14.html
http://www.pureoverclock.com/article905.html
So it can be done.
Come on Gigabyte, what are you playing at?
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I think in your place I would send a folow up question along the lines of "Please pass this to someone who can understand the question before answering!"
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I think in your place I would send a folow up question along the lines of "Please pass this to someone who can understand the question before answering!"
:D I just might have to do that, although I think I'll hold off until I get a response. Not quite at that snarky a stage yet ;). Gigabyte Support response time is 1 day or so judging by my experience so far, and they've been polite enough albeit not very helpful, so we'll see.
Like you said, a clearer answer was expected.
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Looks like we have an answer:
Dear customer,
Architecture between a regular x2 555 and a x2 555 BE may the same but the boot stepping the core code not the same, Since AMD release massive type processor, we need to validate each one on mother board and provide the cpu support list on web. X2 555BE is not on the supported list, thus it's hidden core may not be recognize and unlock by bios. Please using cpu which was validated on mother board. Thanks for your understanding.
Best regards,
Gigabyte technical support team.
For now colour me soured on Gigabyte. Heck even MSI worked their tail ends off to get their 890GX board up to snuff, and that was back in April. I'm too busy with work to have a proper bout with support. I'll have to compose a response later, feel free to leave suggestions ;).
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So basically Gigabyte are now blaming AMD for releasing too many different processors.
Well, at least we now know what the problem is...... Gigabyte needs to employ a few more people to develop and write BIOS code.
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I am sure they would if they could have them on the same terms and conditions as us..............FREE for long hours ;)
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Not looking for a day and it's full of replies ??? :-\ :D
Sending response to Gigabyte is always a good thing.
But I'm losing my patient about the standard "for the noob" messages, they always send.
Always finding a way out and not admitting.
Off course there is no really difference for the BE cores, that's really b*ll sh*t.
You know it, I know it and they certainly know it!!
Maybe you just can reply with a question back why MSI does know the trick (on al relative "old", "simple" and cheap board) and Gigabyte struggle with it?
I'm studying physics, not computer science, but I think it wouldn't hard for a well graduated CS to find a solution?
I really don't get it, but it smells like priorities and money ;)
I also have more and more doubts about the unlocked 555 BE system they showed me.
Besides, that absolutely doesn't match with the reply to proxy.
One says that the X2 555BE isn't really validated, the other is showing a working system????? ???
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You are really not supposed to use common sense and logic with them! It really confuses them ::)
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What annoys me is the BE is not supported line they're taking, when the 955 is on that list. So we're to believe the 955 isn't BE, when all they make is BE 955s?
I've been holding off on responding, there's no need to be snappy or snarky with someone trying his or her best (hopefully) to do his or her job within the abilities. I've been very very busy with work, and I have 4 RMAs currently open with Hitachi, Corsair, OCZ, and EagleTech, so I'll follow up with Gigabyte Support on the weekend. ::)
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You do wonder though if they even understand the question in the first place to give an answer like that. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence ::)
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Greetings gents (and ladies, if present)
Just checking in to report a similar problem as the OP. Twice now I have paired an 880GMA-UD2H and 555BE with the same results. The BIOS only shows 2 cores whether in auto or manual mode. One attempt was with F4 the other with F5.
My ticket to GB was replied with:
Dear Customer
Those are overclocking feature and we are unable to guarantee any results off from overclocking when trying to enable the other cores
I will watch this thread with much interest.
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Dear Customer
Those are overclocking feature and we are unable to guarantee any results off from overclocking when trying to enable the other cores
This is one of those annoying replies and the usual "get out of jail" card employed by Mobo and other hardware manufacturer's. They sell their products on the promise of Overclockability & Tweaking and then say that they don't support it. The reality is, that other motherboard maker's have written the BIOS code to allow these cores to be unlocked and Gigabyte haven't.
When I ask AMD about core unlocking they said "We know it goes on but we don't condone or support it. However, the cores can be unlocked if the BIOS allows it. If you do unlock cores on a processor that has had them unlocked you void the warranty and we will not replace the processor if it fails." So, AMD have made their stance pretty clear on this. Unlock the cores at your own risk.
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That they "don't support" the 555 BE is not the point.
The point is that they make statements on the website that are misleading.
Or you can better say, very doubtful.
Especially considering the replies to me from the tech. staff.
As a matter of fact, the argument/text that the 555 is official support and the 555 BE not because it may be a different processor isn't really valid (not a hard evidence).
I also think that "unlocking is at your own risk" is very doubtful because it has absolutely nothing to do with the two working (official supported) cores.
(technically and physical(ly))
I think it's a bad thing that Gigabyte is hiding behind an argument that covers the point if there is a change to unlock cores and a change to run a computer stable with it (which is understandable) That has nothing to do with this problems.
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Yeah, I'm a bit annoyed myself, but I'm not that upset yet. I still believe that Gigabyte is working on the issue and will release a BIOS in short order; at least I hope so. I've tried the newest F6 BIOS for the GA-880GA-UD3H, but that didn't affect this issue.
Here's the latest message I sent to Gigabyte Support. I sincerely hope it doesn't sound too aggressive, as I'm not really trying to be confrontational or critical with them:
Hello Gigabyte Support Team,
I apologize for the delay between my questions, I'm sure you can all appreciate sudden work volume increases putting constraints on time. Please understand that I do not bear any ill will towards the support department or anyone at Gigabyte. Typed text can lack subtley and nuance, which may otherwise make it seem what it is not, and though the tone of my message may seem harsh, I assure you that I am merely stating the situation in a firm manner, and the following is not meant to berate.
I understand what you are stating regarding not being able to unlock a 555 BE. The answer that it is not supported, and that I have no recourse but to use a 'supported CPU' though is unacceptable.
Gigabyte does not on their supported list anywhere ever state that there is a difference between support for the 'regular' version of a CPU and a Black Edition. From the mere fact that the AMD x4 955 is on the same list, in fact 3 different steppings are listed, shows that Gigabyte is not distinguishing between Black Edition and non-Black Edition CPUs on said list. As you well know the x4 955 only comes in the Black Edition, that is to say that AMD only makes Black Edition x4 955 processors. By not distinguishing Black Edition CPUs, and having never stated a difference between Black Edition processors anywhere on any compatibility list Gigabyte has clearly implicated to their consumers that there should be no distinction.
Gigabyte has made claims for the features of this particular product, the GA-880GA-UD3H. Based on these claims this product was purchased. Upon purchase said product does not meet the claims that were made. This situation is a case of false and ambiguous information being dissemianted to consumers, through what I can only hope is an oversight, and which has furthermore directly affected buying decisions and led to a purchases of this product that would otherwise have not occured.
Your competitors in Asus and MSI to name a few, have worked very industriously to provide the Core Unlock feature to their consumers on the 8xx chipsets. They have similar compatibility lists to Gigabyte's, and they do not make any distinction between Black Edition and non-Black Edition processors on their supported CPU lists...the exact same as Gigabyte. The only difference here is that they provide what they claim, the ability to unlock cores on the AMD x2 555, Black Edition or otherwise.
I have used Gigabyte boards in 3 of the 4 systems I have build this year (albeit those were all Intel systems), and I earnestly love the motherboards you create. I can understand and accept that there is an oversight with x2 555 CPU cores being recognized on the motherboard in question. What I actually find upsetting and disappointing in this situation is the responses I have received to date that appear to be more concerned with avoiding any responsibility or effort, instead of what a support department's goal should be, and that is assisting the consumer. I will not accept that nothing will be done about this, and that Gigabyte will not rectify this oversight in the near future.
I can only assume that the last communication I received on this support issue/ticket was merely informative, and that Gigabyte is working astudiously to update the BIOS on the GA-880GA-UD3H to support the Core Unlock feature with AMD x2 555 BE processors. I fervently hope that your next response will be confirmation of the aforementioned assumption.
Kind Regards,
Richard
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Nothing wrong with that Richard.
I just wonder how it will translate into Taiwanese and back again! :P
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Damn forgot they were Taiwanese! Should have made it less wordy and run it through Google Translate and back first :D
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Their answer should translate nicely I would think. Considering some of the answers we see to straightforward questions I can't wait to see what they make of this one :o
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Looks like it didn't matter, I don't think they even bothered to read the full message. Here's their latest response, if it seems familiar it's because they copied and pasted from their last response and changed one line.
Dear customer,
If current bios on board is F5, you can try update to latest F6 and test cpu again, but we are not guaranty F6 will work with the 555BE processor. Like we have mention before, due to massive type of processors were released from AMD, we need to validate processors which can be supported on mother board and post the list on web. Since 555BE was not on the list which could be not passed the validation or core not able to unlock. Please refer to our cpu support list to choose cpu work with mother board, we are sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your understanding.
Best regards,
Gigabyte technical support team.
Didn't bother to answer any of my questions. I think I'm beginning to become upset. Here's my latest response, although at this point I think I might be talking to a bot, or some similar biological automaton construct.
I tried the F6 BIOS already, it didn't help, the same problem persists.
Please answer my questions from the previous messages.
1. Why is the x4 955 which is listed on the supported list without any notation as being black edition when it clearly is a black edition only CPU? Why has Gigabyte not clearly made it known what black edition and non-black edition processors are compatible?
2. Is Gigabyte working towards compatibility? Can I expect an upcoming BIOS release that will resolve this issue?
3. If a solution is not forthcoming, what recompense will Gigabyte make for the false and ambiguous information regarding supported processors and the GA-880GA-UD3H Core Unlock feature which clearly does not work as stated on the Gigabyte website?
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As I said to you before you have to have a direct and straightforward approach. Your new question is much, much better. A list approach is more likely to get answers.
Hey I was shocked by the avatar....I thought VenGanZa was back :o
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Seems my direct approach wasn't much better, they still refuse to acknowledge that they have Black Edition processors on the list that are not marked as such, or to answer why they don't clearly state this. Their final word seems to be if you don't like it too bad:
Dear customer,
Like we have mention, not all processor are using the same vcore and boot stepping, We need to validate each processor on mother board before post the cpu support list on web, which processor was not listed, it could be not passed the validation or vcore/stepping is not compatible with mother board. Please refer web posted cpu support list to choose cpu work with mother board, we are not able to make a special bios for particular case only.
Please note that, we have not said all processors can be unlock on this board, and we do provided posted cpu support list on web for customer.
Customer can contact vendor if not satisfying with current mother board. every vendor has 30 days return or exchange policy.
we are sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your understanding.
Best regards,
Gigabyte technical support team.
I think I got someone riled up finally :o. I've dealt with a lot of support departments in a lot of companies, and this is the first time I've had a response like that. You usually the runaround on tier 1 for Dell, HP etc. before tier 2 and someone who understands and can answer more technical questions. The case with Gigabyte here is just willful refusal to answer questions, topped off with a 'screw you jerkstore'. I got this motherboard on sale, so I can only return it with a doubled re-stocking fee, 30% (15*2) and for store credit, not an ideal situation, especially since the user is using it already. :P
I don't know who this VenGanZa is, I'm just a fan of the original penguin ::).
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Not particularly customer friendly eh? Luckilly you didn't talk to the Complaints Department :o :o
VenGanZa is a member from Australia but we haven't seen him for some time but he had a Linux Penguin as his avatar too. ;)
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well now, what a disappointing turn of events.
There is at least 1 user report on Newegg that the UD2H unlocked his 555BE with the same lot number as mine, no idea how he did it.
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Hi... I have Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H BIOS F5 and Phenom II555BE C3 revision. How activate 2, 3 core? Cope it ? Thank... :)
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At the moment it seems you can't unlock the cores properly.
This thread is on-going so it would be a good idea to check back regularly as more information regarding this problem comes to light.
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proxy, maybe you can refer to my conversation with the tech. staff?
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I seem to have someone that either refuses to answer questions (even when put into direct numbered format) or is a bit slow on the uptake. You might have better luck than me if you reference my Gigabyte 'QA' session.
"Question - 989976" if that means anything.
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Since the core unlocking is supposedly on a discrete chip, could this be the difference between rev 2.0 and rev 2.1 motherboards?
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I don't know.
It seems that rec 2.1 only fixed some RAM issues.
I've another strange problem
Sometimes my CPU is very hot (out of nothing).
The CPU cooler is also very hot, so it isn't a temp probe failure.
The unlock option is disabled.
A few minutes ago my PC completely freezes :(
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Wasn't it on this board that they removed the chip for unlocking and said it could be done by software instead?
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I don't know what this will add to the topic if anyhthing but I've been following this thread for a while since I ordered my 880GA UD3H and Phenom II 555 BE so I thought I'd put it in here for info just in case.
I got Rev 2.1 MB, when I initially tried to unlock I changed the CPU Unlock option in Bios and only 2 cores were showing iin CPU Core Control. I F10 saved and tried a boot, it posted but hung at the Windows 7 startup screen.
Went back in Bios, at that point all 4 cores were showing under Core Control so I tried to boot again. Same results, hung at Windows Startup.
Then I moved CPU unlock back to default and everything booted. I figured I had an unlockable chip but I tried again. I realized from the first go round that I had to at least activate CPU Core Control and try to to boot to be able to go back in BIOS and see all 4 cores under Core Control otherwise it just showed 2.
So I enabled Unlock again, booted to no avail once again, went back in BIOS, disabled the last two cores manually and it booted, although with 2 cores as I expected. Then I begain workiing with the last 2 cores, one at a time and wound up with a tri core processor. I had to keep the last core disabled in Core Control. Seems the 4th core is bad on my CPU but I am able to unlock the first 3 cores using the manual Core Contol option.
Oh I did update to F6 before trying any of this, it shipped with F4.
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That's good to know jkwutvk, but it doesn't help. Used the rev2.0 myself and the issue here isn't finding unstable cores, it's not finding any additional cores at all. I've used F4 to F6. Enable the core unlock, only 2 cores shown. Reboot, 2 cores show. Core 0 and Core 1. Setting to manual and disabling a core and rebooting results in a single core processor.
I'd like the results you had myself. Also didn't you know? According to Gigabyte support the 555 BE isn't a supported processor! You shouldn't be able to use it! ::)
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Yeah, I read previously here it wasn't a supported processor "AFTER" I placed the order due to everywhere else saying it was. Gotta love tech support....or not, sheesh.
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That's good to know jkwutvk, but it doesn't help. Used the rev2.0 myself and the issue here isn't finding unstable cores, it's not finding any additional cores at all. I've used F4 to F6. Enable the core unlock, only 2 cores shown. Reboot, 2 cores show. Core 0 and Core 1. Setting to manual and disabling a core and rebooting results in a single core processor.
I'd like the results you had myself. Also didn't you know? According to Gigabyte support the 555 BE isn't a supported processor! You shouldn't be able to use it! ::)
Not support? Bad joke... What next?
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Hi guys. My old office machine was getting very unstable and desperate for improvement i bought a GA-880GA-UD3H and a Phenom II X2 555 BE. I had read about core unlocking but didn't really check what mobo to aim for.
After diging around just a bit in bios control i found the unlock feature and changed the settings. After that the post showed X4 and i get four graphs in the resources tab in task manager.
My old unstable XP installation would not boot (used to a E6600 system) but a newer win7 was not so picky.
So while it didn't solve the main problem I now have a cheap upgrade with lots of power.
I will post some CPU-Z scrennies when I get my new cabinet, hd and psu early next week.
If anyone know how to deal with a quite unstable XP installation, please let me know. I have a CRM system installed there that i need to maintain for now.
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Shenpen, I'm not sure you're on the right thread for this, and I'd suggest starting a new one if you can't find anything else online. This is about not being able to unlock cores, not unstable cores.
Just an FYI, but two things come immediately to the fore here.
1. If you're using a new motherboard and processor with an old installation on a hard drive, you first need to run a Windows repair installation, otherwise Windows will not have the correct drivers to run correctly with the new system. Even after a Windows repair installation your install might not work 100%.
2. If you've unlocked the extra cores, then there's no guarantee of stability. One or both of the extra cores could be defective.
Try disabling the core unlock then doing a Windows repair installation. If it's stable after that then try enabling each of the extra cores individually, booting into Windows and testing with Prime 95 for at least 24 hours, I like to go 72 hours myself. There are quite a few threads and guides on core unlocking and stability testing and I'd advise doing a quick search on Google. Best of luck.
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Well - the XP issues are just a side dish. I mostly just wanted to post the facts about seemingly unproblematic unlocking of the two extra cores. I will certainly google repair instalation and see what i can learn. I will try first to make it stable with the old hardware and then see if migration is an option. Opening a new thread might be a good idea also. :)
But to know what kind of beast this X4 thing really is I will have to make a fresh install of windows - hence the new hd - and that will take a few days to get ready for.
As I do need my unstable XP for now, I didnt have much time to put the system under stress and not the right tools available in win7 to really poke the CPU. That said, there were no signs that any cores were defunct in any way.
Also I have seen in this thread that i might be a good idea to raise the voltage as there are now two more mouths to feed.
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Hmm. Just because it boots up doesn't mean they're stable. Besides raising voltages you might want to try lowering the multiplier to put less strain on it as well. You can't migrate an old installation of Windows to a new motherboard, the drivers won't be correct. You need to do a repair installation.
Here's what you need:
1. Windows XP installation disc
2. SATA/RAID driver disc for the motherboard (might need this if the first go around Windows cannot find SATA drives)
3. Windows XP Product Key
4. Motherboard and other hardware drivers
Here's what you need to do:
1. Backup the hard drive; data loss is a possibility
2. Boot to the Windows XP CD *
3. At the options select a new installation (not a repair)
4. Press F8 to continue, Windows will find the existing installation, if it doesn't exit cause you're out of luck
5. You will be prompted to do a repair installation, select this option
6. The repair installation will happen, when prompted enter the product key
7. After it is done, everything will be as it was when XP was first installed, however, the old apps will still be installed
8. Install the motherboard and other hardware drivers
* While XP setup is loading press F6 if you need to use the SATA/RAID disk to detect SATA hard drives
Best of luck. Remember always backup first, prevention and all that.
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Wow - I have been impressed with the help and information that is available in online communities, but this is truly great service. Thank you!
I will start working on a solution as soon as I get my new HD.
Thanks again!
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I have the same issue showing up on this same board. Have you had any response from technical support sideburns? Anyone have an update on this issue?....
Proxy,
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, Im afraid I had abonded hope in obtaining a fix.
My responses from gigabyte tech support were equally disapointing.
Initially
Hi,
Our bios has unlock option but it does not mean we can unlock every cpu.
It depends on CPU itself.
Some are lucky to unlock it but some are not.
As for the cpu speed, you can go to BIOS setup to check it.
As for the stepping, you can use CPUZ to check.
similar to initial forum responses... and then
Hi,
After checking with our bios engineer, it is seldom to see the unlock successfully and then cannot unlock.
If X2 555 cannot unlock successfully, you will only see core 0/1. That is correct.
Suffice to say I felt pretty fobbed off and forgot about core unlocking as my machine is pretty fast anyways so I let it lie.
As you say shame as otherwise this is a pretty neat board, very stable.
I am hopefully going to get the chance to try the chip in a friends 790fx board which has proven itself unlocking other cpu's, however this will not be till early december. Will update with results when I can.
update:
Also, I beleive this was originally in AMD motherboards. Why has it been moved? this thread is clearly discussing a fault with the mainboard.
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Also, I beleive this was originally in AMD motherboards. Why has it been moved? this thread is clearly discussing a fault with the mainboard.
I think the moderator felt that it was more concerned with this subject and so moved it. Obviously we have to make decisions and sometimes the call won't always suit everyone. He just did what he thought was right. ;)
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Also, I beleive this was originally in AMD motherboards. Why has it been moved? this thread is clearly discussing a fault with the mainboard.
I think the moderator felt that it was more concerned with this subject and so moved it. Obviously we have to make decisions and sometimes the call won't always suit everyone. He just did what he thought was right. ;)
No need for winkies with me ;)
As implied by my first post I'd argue it was more apt in AMD motherboards where it began but meh.
Also gonna add in my instance of this issue the motherboard has difficulties booting with core unlock enabled and auto set. I am still F4a bios though.
Has anyone tried overvolting their processor slightly when trying to get this feature working?
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No need for winkies with me
As implied by my first post I'd argue it was more apt in AMD motherboards where it began but meh.
Actually it wasn't either of us moderators, runn3R did it but as he's on holiday this week I guess he gets away with it.
I will leave one of the AMD lads to answer your question as I am not at all sure.
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Bummer.
Looks like Asus gets the nod for future builds, I guess.
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I will post some CPU-Z scrennies when I get my new cabinet, hd and psu early next week.
Everything seems to run stable:
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/5741/testdxo.jpg)
Not able to run a lenghty test yet and at least its far more stable than the old XP installation.
GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H (rev. 2.0)
AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition
Succes: X4 @ 3214 MHz / 1.312 V.
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ok, news from my side.
My CPU died last week.
The temperature was rising very fast.
In the beginning it was sporadic, but in the end the CPU was more than 80 degrees in less than 10 minutes.
(without over-clocking and unlocking)
I tested it on the MSI 785 and I got the same results.
So the CPU is send back RMA now.
I think I'll buy the AMD Athlon II X4 645.
for a few extra bucks it is faster in almost every case/benchmark.
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Hmm. Just because it boots up doesn't mean they're stable. Besides raising voltages you might want to try lowering the multiplier to put less strain on it as well. You can't migrate an old installation of Windows to a new motherboard, the drivers won't be correct. You need to do a repair installation.
Here's what you need:
1. Windows XP installation disc
2. SATA/RAID driver disc for the motherboard (might need this if the first go around Windows cannot find SATA drives)
3. Windows XP Product Key
4. Motherboard and other hardware drivers
Here's what you need to do:
1. Backup the hard drive; data loss is a possibility
2. Boot to the Windows XP CD *
3. At the options select a new installation (not a repair)
4. Press F8 to continue, Windows will find the existing installation, if it doesn't exit cause you're out of luck
5. You will be prompted to do a repair installation, select this option
6. The repair installation will happen, when prompted enter the product key
7. After it is done, everything will be as it was when XP was first installed, however, the old apps will still be installed
8. Install the motherboard and other hardware drivers
* While XP setup is loading press F6 if you need to use the SATA/RAID disk to detect SATA hard drives
Best of luck. Remember always backup first, prevention and all that.
The plot thickens here: With my X4 up and running i found a new cabinet and psu for the CoreDuo set and the XP instalation. I brougth the parts home yesterday and put it all together AND it fired up with no hickups whatsoever!
It becomes unstable with a 5% automatic overclock, but it runs fairly stable even when under a bit of pressure with no overclocking.
So why not stable in the office?
Obviously two explanations comes to mind:
1. The old psu is not up for the task.
The X4 system seems to run stable with the same psu, but its perhaps less powerhungry with a Seagate Momentum XP hybrid-drive instead of a normal hd.
2. The actual power system in the building is not up for the task.
I would never think of this if it wasnt for the fact that I have had to switch off other power lines in order to boot the comp. Or move it to the kitchen for it to power up.
3. Any combination of those.
So how can i test for any of this?
And is there any remedy if the powersystem in the building is not on par?
(Besides using laptop gear)
Any input is welcome.
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This is not as uncommon as you would imagine where the main power supply is not up to scratch. It can be because of a variety of reasons but the main problem is how to circumvent it. I would suggest a good UPS system, size depending on what you are running and the state of the supply. Probably the best start is to get a qualified electrician in to test the power. It could be as simple as bad sockets but it could be a lot harder to fix.
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Very quiet here......
Ok I've got my new CPU.
It's again a X2 555BE, changing for a quad core Athlon was not possible.
So I installed the CPU on the MSI 785 board (because it was still in my computer).
Worked fine.
Tried to unlock it, worked also very well!!!!!
Put it in the Gigabyte board and again no 4 Cores >:(
Sorry for saying, but shame you Gigabyte!!!!! >:( >:( >:(
I just flushed 90 euro away :(
Is there a way to get money back because of a malfunctioning mainbord?
edit:
I noticed a rev2.2 on the website
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@B_force:
I thought you'd taken your Athlon and gone home... ;D
I watch this thread on occasion, on the off chance something will emerge, only to be met with continued silence. It appears no solution is in order from GB or anyone else for that matter. I expect we should just enjoy our" Dualies", overclocking as best we can, and seek alternative mainboards to use in future builds.
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Ok, I have emailed again with gigabyte and I'm absolutely shocked!!
I'd told Gigabyte that my cpu was broken and that I got a new one.
This new cpu can't also be unlocked on the Gigabyte board.
And again the MSI works fine.
So, I was hoping for an answer like before, but suddenly I get a reaction in Dutch.
I quiote:
Thank you for your e-mail. It's good to hear all problems are solved know.
Off course it is sad that that you can't unlock the extra cores, but over clocking is really unpredictable so we have to live with it.
WTF Gigabyte? :o
This can't be serious.
First of all, it seems that this person did not read any of the previous messages.
I'm back were I started ???
Second, problem solved? What is solved? My cpu broke?
That is not a solution is it???
And a big third.
This guy is in fact almost saying that Gigabyte does not have the knowledge to keep up withhis competitors
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It's a real pity that a company that claims to support overclocking and provides utilities for doing so, can't get something as basic as this working properly. I wonder if they would ignore this issue or dismiss it so readily if it was on the Intel platform.
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Yes, I also said that to.
It's to insane that they promote the motherboard with great features, like "simple" unlocking. ???
Absic, do you have any news?
I thought that you asked some things to?
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Hi and my apologies,
I have to say that I let this particular problem slip from my mind as I have been busy doing other things. I will make some enquiries but I'm not sure if I will get any better response than you have had.
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I was looking at the MSI 880GMA-E45 and the unlock option is almost the same
(in fact the whole BIOS is almost the same!)
Is it known if this motherboard has also problems with unlocking?
Seems that the "ACC" option wasn't that bad at all? :)
(in other words, would the GA-880GM-UD2H be a better unlocker?)
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(in other words, would the GA-880GM-UD2H be a better unlocker?)
My experience is with the Gigabyte GA-880GMA-UD2H (rev 2.0)
2 different MB
2 different 555BE CPU
both failed to detect additional cores.
I didn't have an MSI or Asus to test with, so can't replicate 100%
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Just failing to detect is already a strange thing.
I've put a little bit of pressure on the "Dutch tech guy".
He has talked to the old "tech guy" and again they propose to send my cpu + motherboard so they can test it.
But he was saying that he has (off course) multiple motherboards to test.
So I have replied again why they don't test those motherboards with different CPU's.
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Hi,
Just been reading this topic, cause i had problems unlocking the 2nd core on my brand spanking new Sempron 140 using a new GA-MA78LMT-S2 (rev. 3.4) (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3583&dl=) (both of these components bought yesterday).
This may not help but it worked for me. In order to get it unlocked i have used the following method (i have the latest F13 bios for this board):
1. Set fail-safe Bios settings => Save & Reboot
2. Set Hybrid EC mode in M.I.T => Save & Reboot
3. Set ACC to auto => Save & Reboot
4. Second Core unlocked! (showing Athlon II instead of Sempron 140 at POST!)
Right now im gonna check if its stable, currently writing this post on the untested, but unlocked Athlon II X2 4400e (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1544946)!
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Just been reading this topic, cause i had problems unlocking the 2nd core on my brand spanking new Sempron 140 using a new GA-MA78LMT-S2 (rev. 3.4) (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3583&dl=) (both of these components bought yesterday)
Completely different technology. The 78x chipset is outgoing.
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Again news,
The Dutch tech guy has also offered to let me send my motherboards so they can investigate it.
But I don't understand why they don't have a MSI board.
It's not very uncommon that rivals buy each other stuff to "spy" on it.
My biggest problem is that I can't use my computer for I while.
Maybe I will send it just for the holidays. :P
On the other hand, it doesn't help if they also have vacation. ::) :D
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No I really wouldn't advise you top dispatch it before Christmas as at best it wil be sat in the service centre if not in a packaging dept somewhere. ::)
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No I really wouldn't advise you top dispatch it before Christmas as at best it wil be sat in the service centre if not in a packaging dept somewhere. ::)
Hi all, I have v 2.1 and UD3H 880ga phemon 555be 2x2, and I am disappointed by what I've read that I happy to gigabyte, I have not answered me and I have control 4 email, the question, which seems to have category little silly not to fix something that is to write code gigabyte in the bios for the support of 555 be, and so important to the user, which shows the evil gigabyte after-sales service and they care about solving our problem (not are asked for a miracle), I as I do not fix it do not buy anything else in my life gigabyte is a SHAME
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No I really wouldn't advise you top dispatch it before Christmas as at best it wil be sat in the service centre if not in a packaging dept somewhere. ::)
Hi all, I have v 2.1 and UD3H 880ga phemon 555be 2x2, and I am disappointed by what I've read that I happy to gigabyte, I have not answered me and I have control 4 email, the question, which seems to have category little silly not to fix something that is to write code gigabyte in the bios for the support of 555 be, and so important to the user, which shows the evil gigabyte after-sales service and they care about solving our problem (not are asked for a miracle), I as I do not fix it do not buy anything else in my life gigabyte is a SHAME
Yes I am afraid that is something we hear sometimes here and it is a shame as the product is good but is often let down by the aftersales service side of the business.
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No I really wouldn't advise you top dispatch it before Christmas as at best it wil be sat in the service centre if not in a packaging dept somewhere. ::)
Hi all, I have v 2.1 and UD3H 880ga phemon 555be 2x2, and I am disappointed by what I've read that I happy to gigabyte, I have not answered me and I have control 4 email, the question, which seems to have category little silly not to fix something that is to write code gigabyte in the bios for the support of 555 be, and so important to the user, which shows the evil gigabyte after-sales service and they care about solving our problem (not are asked for a miracle), I as I do not fix it do not buy anything else in my life gigabyte is a SHAME
Yes I am afraid that is something we hear sometimes here and it is a shame as the product is good but is often let down by the aftersales service side of the business.
so swindlers, and sell smoke, in the case of the plate does not come in Inguna side that is not compatible with the release of 555be, just put that unlocks the hidden core, a shame, I have about a week, I will have chance to return ?
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I would think that there is a fair chance of a BIOS update to fix this issue being released.
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I would think that there is a fair chance of a BIOS update to fix this issue being released.
so hopefully! but someone made an news from gigabyte that they do it? or have to modify the bios someone who knows? if you can? do not know, they do not cost nothing, and many would make us happy with his gift for Christmas, sorry for the English, is google translator
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Have you tried going directly to GGTS and asking them to do this to a BIOS?
Just enter your email address and click on the language of choice.
GGTS http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/Default.aspx
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Have you tried going directly to GGTS and asking them to do this to a BIOS?
Just enter your email address and click on the language of choice.
GGTS http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/Default.aspx
Yes , first response
Dear Diego,
Thank you for your kindly mail and inquiry. About the issue you mentioned, there are several possibilities to effect the result of CPU unlock, for example, CPU quality and process, etc. Therefore, we are not able to guarantee the result. If currently your CPU cannot unlock, then we will suggest you to test with other CPU and see how it works. Sorry for the inconvenience.
If you still have any further question or suggestion about our products/service, please do not hesitate to contact us. We will try our best to help you resolve the problem ASAP.
Regards,
GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY
2 response
Dear Diego,
Since we have limited resources and mass email coming, to make sure every customer can receive timely support, we appreciate you DO NOT issue two similar question. This can shorten service time and make everybody happy.
In your case, we have found another duplicated inquiry in our system, to make sure all the information can be tracked, we will response to E-mail ID: 1018284 for your reference. In which case, please neglect this email.
If you have questions different from original, please use "New Question" button to issue a form. If the question is the same to previous one, please click "Ask more question" after you receive our response. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.
Regards,
GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY
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Dear Diego,
Thank you for your kindly mail and inquiry. About the issue you mentioned, there are several possibilities to effect the result of CPU unlock, for example, CPU quality and process, etc. Therefore, we are not able to guarantee the result. If currently your CPU cannot unlock, then we will suggest you to test with other CPU and see how it works. Sorry for the inconvenience.
If you still have any further question or suggestion about our products/service, please do not hesitate to contact us. We will try our best to help you resolve the problem ASAP.
Regards,
GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY
whose face is gigabyte! I have a totally useful core, ASUS motherboard tested. and I put in the mail! clear!
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I do wonder sometimes if they really do not understand what they are being asked or are just generally obstructive.
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I do wonder sometimes if they really do not understand what they are being asked or are just generally obstructive.
A new I have sent mail
I have a perfect extra core placac tested on Asus, hos creis that we have plenty of money to change processors or plates every two days? bios does not unlock any 555be, and that does not put in the product box, or notifies the seller it is a hoax! and you have a lot of people pissed at the track.
Read this forum and this Hamuche more:
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=2409.0
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Hi Guys,
I have been thinking of getting the GA-880GA-UD3H for a while, well at least until I read this forum. Has anyone got this mobo to unlock all 4 cores yet?
I spoke to a person from another forum and they said that the GA-880GMA-UD2H can unlock the cores. This is the same board except it is the microATX equivalent. Can anyone confirm that this board supports it? If so I'm going MicroATX!!!
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Hi Guys,
I have been thinking of getting the GA-880GA-UD3H for a while, well at least until I read this forum. Has anyone got this mobo to unlock all 4 cores yet?
I spoke to a person from another forum and they said that the GA-880GMA-UD2H can unlock the cores. This is the same board except it is the microATX equivalent. Can anyone confirm that this board supports it? If so I'm going MicroATX!!!
Hi I have it, the plate is fine, but if you try to unlock I would go even asus, I tell you my experience, I have a phenom 555be in 880ga I unlocked and let me start with the s*** of the autoloock (it sucks very fat) I tested my mic on a asus evo and gives me a core most perfect, I've been fighting with the service from gigabyte and are the worst, I was told that I bought a better quality mic a shame and I'm going to put contact someone higher for service to complain about the questions and answers, only make the problem off the top.
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Hi Guys,
I have been thinking of getting the GA-880GA-UD3H for a while, well at least until I read this forum. Has anyone got this mobo to unlock all 4 cores yet?
I spoke to a person from another forum and they said that the GA-880GMA-UD2H can unlock the cores. This is the same board except it is the microATX equivalent. Can anyone confirm that this board supports it? If so I'm going MicroATX!!!
I have GA-880GMA-UD2H and Phenom BE555 - unlock doesn´t go! Asus unlock OK.
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Wow, there's a lot of anger on this thread. I can understand everyone's frustration but everyone needs to stay calm :). Getting incredibly upset and using harsh language rarely helps, however, I can certainly understand with the way Gigabyte Support seems to be treating support requests.
I've been using Asus boards for AMD builds lately, well the last two, used a M4A88TD, and currently a M4A890GTD I'm putting a 1090T into. I did a 555 BE build last month on the M4A88 but could only unlock 1 core, so people should keep in mind that they should be sure their CPUs can unlock successfully at all before going ballistic on Gigabyte ;).
It's sad that I had to resort to using a different manufacturer for the time being. I even recommended an Asus Sabretooth to a guy doing a 970 build over a Gigabyte x58 board just because I'm so disappointed in their support.
It's really a shame since I've been a huge Gigabyte supporter the last 2 years after using one of their EP45 LGA775 boards, and had been using them almost exclusively since, other than one Foxxcon board, I just love the 8 SATA ports on their 8XX series boards. Gigabyte boards do seem to boot slower than other boards though. I'd never had cause to contact their support department before, but from what contact I've had with them now I've greatly soured on them as an organization. Dark Mantis has it, great product, poor after sale support. I'm going to say Gigabyte Support is shooting the company in the foot with their heavy handed and unsympathetic response to consumers. Not that three less motherboard sales are really going to impact their bottom line though ;D.
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Oh, as an aside I need a I/O shield for that GA-880GA-UD3H from the build from over 3 months ago, it seems that's the motherboard of never ending issues. I guess Gigabyte is going to get at least another $20 from me :o.
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Wow, there's a lot of anger on this thread. I can understand everyone's frustration but everyone needs to stay calm :). Getting incredibly upset and using harsh language rarely helps, however, I can certainly understand with the way Gigabyte Support seems to be treating support requests.
I've been using Asus boards for AMD builds lately, well the last two, used a M4A88TD, and currently a M4A890GTD I'm putting a 1090T into. I did a 555 BE build last month on the M4A88 but could only unlock 1 core, so people should keep in mind that they should be sure their CPUs can unlock successfully at all before going ballistic on Gigabyte ;).
It's sad that I had to resort to using a different manufacturer for the time being. I even recommended an Asus Sabretooth to a guy doing a 970 build over a Gigabyte x58 board just because I'm so disappointed in their support.
It's really a shame since I've been a huge Gigabyte supporter the last 2 years after using one of their EP45 LGA775 boards, and had been using them almost exclusively since, other than one Foxxcon board, I just love the 8 SATA ports on their 8XX series boards. Gigabyte boards do seem to boot slower than other boards though. I'd never had cause to contact their support department before, but from what contact I've had with them now I've greatly soured on them as an organization. Dark Mantis has it, great product, poor after sale support. I'm going to say Gigabyte Support is shooting the company in the foot with their heavy handed and unsympathetic response to consumers. Not that three less motherboard sales are really going to impact their bottom line though ;D.
Hi, this is very well you say, but the reality is different, I tell my case, I have 555 + 880ga UD3H be, I tried my 555 on an asus motherboard evo, and I have a perfect core and the other as it could stabilize with the right tools, and 880ga not start me if I try to unlock with the s*** release system auto unloock gigabyte, which is a fear in comparison to all I have seen, gives no option at all, or unlock the two core stable or forget, half possible conclusion is that you tap one with the two cores stable to boot. I've done more than write email telling them my problem (which actually is their problem as a problem of s*** car system unloock release) and no case, just make removing the dead and the last one tell me to buy a microprocessor better quality (if I could I comparia the x6 but save me a hard time to change the board microprocessor and RAM memory and not served anything from old pc) and the problem is with my board does not micro as they suggest , and I've tried in another Asus Evo, are limiting me to 33% (safe) and maybe 50% (if I can stabilize the other core) of my system, you have to do is to fix and support your auto unloock system sucks huge, and if this is not for cabrears,it will tell me and you, a greeting to all and happy new year.
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dieg0 can you use some punctuation?
It's a little bit hard to read this way.
No updates from my side.
I think I'll send first the Gigabyte board first and let them confirm that it just doesn't work.
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dieg0 can you use some punctuation?
It's a little bit hard to read this way.
No updates from my side.
I think I'll send first the Gigabyte board first and let them confirm that it just doesn't work.
B_force Hi, do you mean with punctuation? pardon my English is google translator. my gigabyte sent me pictures like that works with a 555 debloqueo but clear with good extra cores do not know if that was the revision c3 is my processor and mine is 2x2 555be phenom. But not far from me fio Photos
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Google translate does know the word punctuation ;) :D
Or:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation
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Google translate does know the word punctuation ;) :D
Or:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation
Ok, but better to write in Spanish, since the translations are painful! This picture was sent from gigabyte, but because I do not trust this release the two processor cores or have been able to cheat when they open the hidden nucleus. They maintain that their system works well Nuclei release, but the reality is that I do not work, not even if I boot the pc active unlock bios, and I repeat I tested the chip on a motherboard Asus Evo and I have a perfect extra core.
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Hi Guys,
I have been thinking of getting the GA-880GA-UD3H for a while, well at least until I read this forum. Has anyone got this mobo to unlock all 4 cores yet?
I spoke to a person from another forum and they said that the GA-880GMA-UD2H can unlock the cores. This is the same board except it is the microATX equivalent. Can anyone confirm that this board supports it? If so I'm going MicroATX!!!
Don't bet on it. I have built 2 of the UD2H boards and 2 555BE CPUs with no luck in any combination. Go with ****.(moderated)
The key issue here is that the cores are not even detected, nevermind unlock stability. That's a big fail in my book (not that I'm angry about it, it is what it is. Live and learn and research more for the next build)
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Hi Guys,
I have been thinking of getting the GA-880GA-UD3H for a while, well at least until I read this forum. Has anyone got this mobo to unlock all 4 cores yet?
I spoke to a person from another forum and they said that the GA-880GMA-UD2H can unlock the cores. This is the same board except it is the microATX equivalent. Can anyone confirm that this board supports it? If so I'm going MicroATX!!!
Don't bet on it. I have built 2 of the UD2H boards and 2 555BE CPUs with no luck in any combination. Go with ****.(moderated)
The key issue here is that the cores are not even detected, nevermind unlock stability. That's a big fail in my book (not that I'm angry about it, it is what it is. Live and learn and research more for the next build)
Hello , 880ga me in the UD3H, I also not detected nuclei, and Asus Evo detected a friend to me the first and I have a good nucleus, someone got it detected in the nuclei 880ga? I have asked to put in a gigabyte bios ACC 7xx series (I think it is problem of Auto Unlock, my opinion is not it a Expert) we'll see if it repaired or not.
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Hi Guys,
I have been thinking of getting the GA-880GA-UD3H for a while, well at least until I read this forum. Has anyone got this mobo to unlock all 4 cores yet?
I spoke to a person from another forum and they said that the GA-880GMA-UD2H can unlock the cores. This is the same board except it is the microATX equivalent. Can anyone confirm that this board supports it? If so I'm going MicroATX!!!
Don't bet on it. I have built 2 of the UD2H boards and 2 555BE CPUs with no luck in any combination. Go with ****.(moderated)
The key issue here is that the cores are not even detected, nevermind unlock stability. That's a big fail in my book (not that I'm angry about it, it is what it is. Live and learn and research more for the next build)
Hello , 880ga me in the UD3H, I also not detected nuclei, and Asus Evo detected a friend to me the first and I have a good nucleus, someone got it detected in the nuclei 880ga? I have asked to put in a gigabyte bios ACC 7xx series (I think it is problem of Auto Unlock, my opinion is not it a Expert) we'll see if it repaired or not.
Yes, that's the main subject of this thread. Auto-unlock doesn't detect additional cores on the 555BE with the Gigabyte 880G chipset.
oh well.
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Hi Guys,
I have been thinking of getting the GA-880GA-UD3H for a while, well at least until I read this forum. Has anyone got this mobo to unlock all 4 cores yet?
I spoke to a person from another forum and they said that the GA-880GMA-UD2H can unlock the cores. This is the same board except it is the microATX equivalent. Can anyone confirm that this board supports it? If so I'm going MicroATX!!!
Don't bet on it. I have built 2 of the UD2H boards and 2 555BE CPUs with no luck in any combination. Go with ****.(moderated)
The key issue here is that the cores are not even detected, nevermind unlock stability. That's a big fail in my book (not that I'm angry about it, it is what it is. Live and learn and research more for the next build)
Hello , 880ga me in the UD3H, I also not detected nuclei, and Asus Evo detected a friend to me the first and I have a good nucleus, someone got it detected in the nuclei 880ga? I have asked to put in a gigabyte bios ACC 7xx series (I think it is problem of Auto Unlock, my opinion is not it a Expert) we'll see if it repaired or not.
Yes, that's the main subject of this thread. Auto-unlock doesn't detect additional cores on the 555BE with the Gigabyte 880G chipset.
oh well.
And he hopes to fix gigabyte? to piss off all those who have bought? to sell fewer motherboards? I do not understand gigabyte.
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And he hopes to fix gigabyte? to piss off all those who have bought? to sell fewer motherboards? I do not understand gigabyte.
If the level of complaints get high enough, or if market share slips, there is compulsion to fix. If it is just a small number of issues, it is a waste of resources. This is not a warranty covered item, and the supported functions continue to work, so there you are.
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And he hopes to fix gigabyte? to piss off all those who have bought? to sell fewer motherboards? I do not understand gigabyte.
If the level of complaints get high enough, or if market share slips, there is compulsion to fix. If it is just a small number of issues, it is a waste of resources. This is not a warranty covered item, and the supported functions continue to work, so there you are.
ok, but we have sold a technology that does not work properly Auto-unlock! And that is to deceive consumers. Nowhere in the product set that is not compatible with 555be, just put Auto-unlock, I bought this board for this option (and not from the cheap to fool us) if you buy the Asus. And my feeling is that Gigabyte has fooled me with the Auto-unlock.
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And he hopes to fix gigabyte? to piss off all those who have bought? to sell fewer motherboards? I do not understand gigabyte.
If the level of complaints get high enough, or if market share slips, there is compulsion to fix. If it is just a small number of issues, it is a waste of resources. This is not a warranty covered item, and the supported functions continue to work, so there you are.
ok, but we have sold a technology that does not work properly Auto-unlock! And that is to deceive consumers. Nowhere in the product set that is not compatible with 555be, just put Auto-unlock, I bought this board for this option (and not from the cheap to fool us) if you buy the Asus. And my feeling is that Gigabyte has fooled me with the Auto-unlock.
Last email Gigabyte:
Yes, we understand that you had written several times; however, we are sorry to say this again, CPU unlock depends on CPU quality that we are not able to guarantee the result.
From previous email, we had provided the photo shows you our test result: our BIOS has no problem to detect quality CPU to unlock. We appreciate your understanding that even AMD are not able to guarantee their CPU to unlock. If AMD can guarantee on the unlock result, we suggest you to contact AMD directly. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Regards,
GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY
My response
On 9 times! my 2x2 555 black edition phenom is good quality! has a perfect extra core tested in a motherboard Asus Evo! I told you nine times! The fault lies not with AMD, Gigabyte is to blame! , anyone with phenom 2x2 555 Black Edition Gigabyte plates and 8xx series will detect cores! The photo you sent me is unlocked with a 555 to dry (not the Black Edition), and stop accusing me to AMD, Gigabyte is to blame if the next answer is not positive for all 2x2 owners phenom 555 black edition we will begin to contact in various forums with computer magazines (worldwide, not only in Spain) and even complain to the consumer affairs office for misleading advertising, to tell our disappointment with Gigabyte and false advertising, saying that you do not do more than say that the fault of AMD processors to be functional and unlock it perfect on other boards as Asus. and the Gigabyte or detect the nuclei are well or poorly.
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Looking at this forum and thread:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/535501-official-amd-k10-5-core-cache-167.html
A lot of experiences, and the results of Gigabyte are variable
Some good results with the GA-880GA-UD3H.
I don't get it any more ??? >:(
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Same at Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-445&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=4#scrollFullInfo)
Sparky is unhappy, while PK is satisfied.
Odd indeed.
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It is a funny situation as some people seem to have much more luck than others with the same hardware. :-\
It would seem to be a BIOS issue though and Gigabyte should do a rewrite to address it.
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I have three x2 555 BEs at the moment ready to put into builds, one of which is a beast so far on a M4A89GTD PRO USB3 I have handy until the user's 1090T arrives for me to complete his build. It overclocks to 4 on stock everything stable on OCCT and Prime95, haven't pushed beyond this yet. All cores unlock and boots to 4GHz on stock but haven't fully tested yet. Will have to see how far the OC goes on stock as a quad with a swapped in OCZ Vendetta 2.
When I get my hands on the GA-880GA-UD3H from a few months ago to replace the I/O shield, I'm going to temporarily swap the cores and see what results I get. Just a wild guess, but I suspect that the Gigabyte 8xx series boards are just not as good or forgiving with weaker processors, while the Asus 8xx series boards seem to fare better. If that's the case then I'm expecting the high quality processor I'm calling Betsy now will still shine on the Gigabyte and the other swappie will be passable on the Asus.
Also I look forward to when Intel i5s and up start dropping in price so I can start doing Intel builds again =).
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Betsy? :D :D :D
On overclock.net people seems to have more luck.
Someone is talking about the C3 stepping (don't know which mine is).
Wondering if there are maybe some differences about the boards from Europe and the VS.
But that's very unlikely I think (far-fetched)
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Betsy? :D :D :D
On overclock.net people seems to have more luck.
Someone is talking about the C3 stepping (don't know which mine is).
Wondering if there are maybe some differences about the boards from Europe and the VS.
But that's very unlikely I think (far-fetched)
Hi B force, c3 referred to the revision of the Phenom you can look through the CPUZ I leave a picture. overclock.net you could put a link to the page where they talk of C3? Regards, the problem I think the code is much more sensitive than in the release of the 7xx series, and gigabyte not take more than 10 minutes to make the system release 8xx series.
Last gigabyte:
: Dear Diego,
We are really sorry for this issue, but as we mentioned, we cannot guarantee the result of CPU unlock, if you think the problem belongs to the MB, we suggest you to contact with your supplier or our local distributor and see if they could help you do the further examination.
Regards,
GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY
my answer
If you can do! what you have to do is fix our problem! you have to modify the bios so that the reading of the release of nuclei is not so demanding! (saying it in abbreviated form), the problem is the bios progamacion and deveria gigabyte fix it because their competitors such as Asus is well above gigabyte, with Advanced Clock Calibration 7xx you were well above and in the series Asus 8xx you did not either! because that neglect by size of the programming of the bios? And the problem is not the UD3H 880ga is the bios programming! so that no more than gigabyte programmers can fix it, if I go to buy the board I will send to you! So save us the nonsense. I do not like me dizzy! I hope its good news! But so will choose to do everything possible and necessary for other ways for us to fix it or a refund of our purchase and sell what is not real! And of course contact the appropriate person gigabyte as in the technical servivio that you do not do more haggling! I hope your news.
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Betsy? :D :D :D
On overclock.net people seems to have more luck.
Someone is talking about the C3 stepping (don't know which mine is).
Wondering if there are maybe some differences about the boards from Europe and the VS.
But that's very unlikely I think (far-fetched)
Hi B force, c3 referred to the revision of the Phenom you can look through the CPUZ I leave a picture. overclock.net you could put a link to the page where they talk of C3? Regards, the problem I think the code is much more sensitive than in the release of the 7xx series, and gigabyte not take more than 10 minutes to make the system release 8xx series.
Last gigabyte:
: Dear Diego,
We are really sorry for this issue, but as we mentioned, we cannot guarantee the result of CPU unlock, if you think the problem belongs to the MB, we suggest you to contact with your supplier or our local distributor and see if they could help you do the further examination.
Regards,
GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY
my answer
If you can do! what you have to do is fix our problem! you have to modify the bios so that the reading of the release of nuclei is not so demanding! (saying it in abbreviated form), the problem is the bios progamacion and deveria gigabyte fix it because their competitors such as Asus is well above gigabyte, with Advanced Clock Calibration 7xx you were well above and in the series Asus 8xx you did not either! because that neglect by size of the programming of the bios? And the problem is not the UD3H 880ga is the bios programming! so that no more than gigabyte programmers can fix it, if I go to buy the board I will send to you! So save us the nonsense. I do not like me dizzy! I hope its good news! But so will choose to do everything possible and necessary for other ways for us to fix it or a refund of our purchase and sell what is not real! And of course contact the appropriate person gigabyte as in the technical servivio that you do not do more haggling! I hope your news.
Last gigabyte:
Dear Diego,
Since the result of CPU unlock depends on the quality of CPU which is not able to guarantee, please contact with your supplier for further test.
Regarding to your suggestion, this mail has been forward to relevant department, possible improvement will be made under a comprehensive evaluation.
Regards,
GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY
hi this is the last message I have sent, not whether it will be a joke or not! wait a bit to see if it is true or not.
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On overclock.net people seems to have more luck.
Someone is talking about the C3 stepping (don't know which mine is).
All 555 BE should be C3 stepping.
Something is certainly funky, and I doubt GB has enough statistics to determine exactly what. Hopefully b_force's board submission will shed some light on it.
Thanks for being the test subject b_force.
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i have the revision2.2 880ga-ud3h (F6 bios) mobo with the phenom II 555 be and when I use the unlock cpu choice when i save the changes computer shutdown and do not open (to open it i have to reset the pc every time I turn on the computer and no new cores are available at bios menu) all this till I turn disable the cpu unlock choice...
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i have the revision2.2 880ga-ud3h (F6 bios) mobo with the phenom II 555 be and when I use the unlock cpu choice when i save the changes computer shutdown and do not open (to open it i have to reset the pc every time I turn on the computer and no new cores are available at bios menu) all this till I turn disable the cpu unlock choice...
CSFA Hi, I have the R 2.1 and 555be F7 and I'm like you, I tried it on an Asus Evo and I unlock a perfect core, but I 880ga not read them, I received new gigabyte response and are not planning anything about it, are liars and sell smoke and defective systems that do not fulfill their function (the release of nuclei)
Gigabyte Last post:
Dear Diego,
Although we have forwarded your mail to relevant department, as we mentioned before, after testing we can unlock the core, the BIOS is not the problem. The result of unlock core depends on the quality of the CPU, which even AMD are not able to guarantee. We suggest you to send your system to your supplier for further test.
Regards,
GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY
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Well I'm going to send it back then and buy something else (the seller will pay it ofcaurse because he told me that this mobo can unlock the 555).
and before Ill do tha Im going to call Gigabyte...
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Well I'm going to send it back then and buy something else (the seller will pay it ofcaurse because he told me that this mobo can unlock the 555).
and before Ill do tha Im going to call Gigabyte...
hello, if I could also the exchange and yet I have some time, and later to try the 555 on the Asus Evo too, thinking that I play one of two cores, and changing it to tell us if you unlock
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Well I'm going to send it back then and buy something else (the seller will pay it ofcaurse because he told me that this mobo can unlock the 555).
and before Ill do tha Im going to call Gigabyte...
hello, if I could also the exchange and yet I have some time, and later to try the 555 on the Asus Evo too, thinking that I play one of two cores, and changing it to tell us if you unlock
well I got from a friend the Asus Evo m/b and i was able to unlock all the 4 cores, the systems looks stable, I didn't notice anything strange..
Now I'm waiting from the shop to bring the same mobo to give them mine back...
(I hope next week I will be able to make ferther testing)
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Alright, here's the update. Got my hands on the GA-880GA-UD3H Rev 2.0 board today. Flashed it to F7 BIOS and still no luck unlocking the cores on the 555BE that's on it, which I will now refer to as Igor.
Swapped Igor with the 555BE I've lovingly named Betsy, which unlocks all cores on an Asus M4A89GTD Pro USB3, and as a x2 OCs to 4.0GHz on stock, a x4 to 3.8GHz on stock, and as a x4 to 4.0GHz with a VCore bump to 1.40V (1.42V with load line calibration).
Igor was very problematic on the M4A89GTD, the auto-unlock struggled. Eventually I managed to unlock 1 extra core, but only after underclocking to 2.7GHz. Not a very good bin I guess. Even then I wasn't quite stable in Windows 7 64 bit but I didn't bother to do a full battery of tests and fiddle with it too much.
Betsy went into the GA-880GA-UD3H and after enabling core unlock, 3 reboots, and a reset, success! 4 Cores stable at stock. Currently in the process of running OCCT overnight at x4 with VCore 1.4V (1.408V with LLC) @ 4.0GHz.
So I'm going to hypothesize here that the Asus boards just do a better job of unlocking low bin CPUs than the Gigabytes (at least on the new 8xx chipsets), and they both seem to do a decent job on higher bin CPUs.
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Update: 555 BE 4 Cores (unlocked) at 4 (4.0176) GHz with VCore of 1.40V (1.408) passed 14 hours on OCCT v3.1.0. Continuing with further testing.
Meanwhile I've started retesting the other (read different) 555 BE that wouldn't unlock on the GA-880GA-UD3H, on the M4A89GTD, it seems fine at 2.7 GHz with a VCore of 1.415V though it's only 20 minutes into OCCT. With only 2 cores enabled previously and testing with strictly multiplier overclocking, I was only able to get it to boot to Windows 7 64 bit at 3.6 GHz which seemed flakey, I'd guess it could only do 3.4-3.5 on the multi alone.
I think Giga just doesn't like Igor, since the Asus doesn't seem to like him much either, although Asus seems to be giving him more love.
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Personally I would be interested in what Absic had to say if he could try one of these boards out with a compatible CPU. :-\
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Hi,
I have been in contact with Gigabyte UK about the issues with core unlocking as I too have encountered problems. I am still waiting for their reply and as my old mum says: "If you haven't got anything useful to say, don't say anything." Hence the lack of input, regarding this thread.
Yes, there does seems to be a problem but I do not know what it is or, why it is proving so difficult to unlock what seem to be good cores, on these boards. I am doing what I can but, unfortunately my resources are limited so I can't invest in a 555 or other CPU's for testing fully. I have however, unlocked a Sempron 140 on a Biostar Motherboard which I can't unlock on the three different Gigabyte motherboards I have tried.
I am watching this thread closely and if/when I have some proper practical advice or a solution to this problem I will post it here.
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Hi,
I have been in contact with Gigabyte UK about the issues with core unlocking as I too have encountered problems. I am still waiting for their reply and as my old mum says: "If you haven't got anything useful to say, don't say anything." Hence the lack of input, regarding this thread.
Yes, there does seems to be a problem but I do not know what it is or, why it is proving so difficult to unlock what seem to be good cores, on these boards. I am doing what I can but, unfortunately my resources are limited so I can't invest in a 555 or other CPU's for testing fully. I have however, unlocked a Sempron 140 on a Biostar Motherboard which I can't unlock on the three different Gigabyte motherboards I have tried.
I am watching this thread closely and if/when I have some proper practical advice or a solution to this problem I will post it here.
Hello Absic , I if I said to my phenom 555be gigabyte is poor! and at no time admitted that the problem is yours! , She always blames my processor and AMD, but the reality is that my processor unlocks Asus perfect like other forum mates, greetings
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Hi Diego,
I understand your frustration and I am trying to find out why CPU's that can be easily unlocked on motherboards by other manufacturers can not be unlocked on Gigabyte motherboards.
As I said, I do not have the resources to experiment, although I have successfully unlocked a Sempron 140 on a rival motherboard but have been unable to on 3 different Gigabyte boards. I don't know why this is the case but, it could be that Gigabyte have a higher standard for Core Unlocking than other motherboard makers.
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Hi Diego,
I understand your frustration and I am trying to find out why CPU's that can be easily unlocked on motherboards by other manufacturers can not be unlocked on Gigabyte motherboards.
As I said, I do not have the resources to experiment, although I have successfully unlocked a Sempron 140 on a rival motherboard but have been unable to on 3 different Gigabyte boards. I don't know why this is the case but, it could be that Gigabyte have a higher standard for Core Unlocking than other motherboard makers.
Hello Absic , Hello, frustration is not the word! , If you buy a motherboard because it has a character and incredible technologies is then not work! gigabyte and above have the face to tell you that your AMD processor is poor! being the only thing that is poor management is the release of nuclei and technical service, and the worst is to not try to fix your bugs!
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Hello Absic , Hello, frustration is not the word! , If you buy a motherboard because it has a character and incredible technologies is then not work! gigabyte and above have the face to tell you that your AMD processor is poor! being the only thing that is poor management is the release of nuclei and technical service, and the worst is to not try to fix your bugs!
Trust me dieg0, we have all been there and bought the T-shirt! Both absic and I got caught out with the SATA3 Marvell fiasco and were out of pocket over that.
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Hello Absic , Hello, frustration is not the word! , If you buy a motherboard because it has a character and incredible technologies is then not work! gigabyte and above have the face to tell you that your AMD processor is poor! being the only thing that is poor management is the release of nuclei and technical service, and the worst is to not try to fix your bugs!
Trust me dieg0, we have all been there and bought the T-shirt! Both absic and I got caught out with the SATA3 Marvell fiasco and were out of pocket over that.
Thanks Dark Mantis and company, but it's a bitch! if I have a 555be with only 2 cores for resignation, and I buy a two cores! But it is for the motherboard that advertise that unlocks hidden cores, and do not tell me but that's the fault of AMD that are of poor quality! The only thing that is of poor quality are eager to work and fix it! With hard drives SATA3 not even worth buying! is my opinion. You give me one more week I bought a samsung sprinpoint f3, I have another the same and I imagine that will raid0 worth?
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Yes the Samsung Spinpoint F3s are great drives and good value too. No I am just running my WDs in RAID0 but at SATA2 speeds. They seem to be fine on that.
Hopefully the company will discover why the majority of the chips won't unlock and fix it.
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Yes the Samsung Spinpoint F3s are great drives and good value too. No I am just running my WDs in RAID0 but at SATA2 speeds. They seem to be fine on that.
Hopefully the company will discover why the majority of the chips won't unlock and fix it.
If I saw it in your summary of your PC, your PC doit être a missile! mine is more humble! but still overall I'm happy, except with the release of gigabyte! Hopefully it fixed! But they do not know what is wrong, I think the sensitivity can be read when hidden core Phenom series 2, or any failure or go promagramacion you to know! Because the 8xx chip also used by other manufacturers and their plates are unlocked perfectamente.No but it's frustrating.
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DM, you had one of those Marvel 'middle-men' SATA3 boards? Ouch. I liked what I saw of the Samsung F3s, but ended up just using a large number of Hitachi 7K1000.C drives for builds, excellent performance : price ratio. As for SATA3 vs SATA2, I've benched 2x WD1001FALS to 2x WD1002FAEX and I only saw fairly small differences, not enough to sway me to spend an extra $20 for a SATA3 drive. I'll see if I can find some of the screencaps if I have any still and post them later.
Out or curiosity with everyone who's following this board with similar issues, what stepping / revision x2 555 processors do you have?
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DM, you had one of those Marvel 'middle-men' SATA3 boards? Ouch. I liked what I saw of the Samsung F3s, but ended up just using a large number of Hitachi 7K1000.C drives for builds, excellent performance : price ratio. As for SATA3 vs SATA2, I've benched 2x WD1001FALS to 2x WD1002FAEX and I only saw fairly small differences, not enough to sway me to spend an extra $20 for a SATA3 drive. I'll see if I can find some of the screencaps if I have any still and post them later.
Out or curiosity with everyone who's following this board with similar issues, what stepping / revision x2 555 processors do you have?
C3 batch 1046
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As for SATA3 vs SATA2, I've benched 2x WD1001FALS to 2x WD1002FAEX and I only saw fairly small differences, not enough to sway me to spend an extra $20 for a SATA3 drive. I'll see if I can find some of the screencaps if I have any still and post them later.
Yes I was hopping that even the 64GB cache would have made a bigger difference than it did, as it was the difference between the SATA2 and SATA3 drives is negligable. Still I am hoping to test them out on a new P67 board shortly and will be able to see if Gigabyte has made a better job of implimenting the Marvell chip now with more experience to call on.
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As for SATA3 vs SATA2, I've benched 2x WD1001FALS to 2x WD1002FAEX and I only saw fairly small differences, not enough to sway me to spend an extra $20 for a SATA3 drive. I'll see if I can find some of the screencaps if I have any still and post them later.
Yes I was hopping that even the 64GB cache would have made a bigger difference than it did, as it was the difference between the SATA2 and SATA3 drives is negligable. Still I am hoping to test them out on a new P67 board shortly and will be able to see if Gigabyte has made a better job of implimenting the Marvell chip now with more experience to call on.
hello, a question Dark Mantis, to put the disks in raid 0 has to be the entire hard drive or I can make 4 partitions on the same disc and just put 2 partitions on raid0, one hard disk clear, thanks in advance.
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Hi dieg0
No you would need to use the full hard disk because it wouldn't be accessible apart from the RAID that you would configure. I am no expert when it comes to RAID but I am sure someone will soon jump in if I am wrong.
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Hi dieg0
No you would need to use the full hard disk because it wouldn't be accessible apart from the RAID that you would configure. I am no expert when it comes to RAID but I am sure someone will soon jump in if I am wrong.
ok thanks, I'll investigate a little more
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Wish I had seen this thread last week when I was deciding between this motherboard and a comparable Asus one.
I have the Phenom II 560 BE, but the same problems. Only two cores show up in the bios (F7) and when I enable the unlock feature, save and restart, the computer won't post. It eventually comes back on with the message that the computer is unstable because of overclocking.
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Wish I had seen this thread last week when I was deciding between this motherboard and a comparable Asus one.
I have the Phenom II 560 BE, but the same problems. Only two cores show up in the bios (F7) and when I enable the unlock feature, save and restart, the computer won't post. It eventually comes back on with the message that the computer is unstable because of overclocking.
r3xR0xuK2YlZFM hello, I welcome you to the club, I'm just like you! but with the 555 be, and these people gigabyte has no intention of fixing their problems with the release, I personally tried a Asus Evo and unlock the first, and the 880ga no way, I've tried everything, up voltages , lower speeds and multipliers, probe disconnecting hard drives, I hurried to change the power source (the change but thought later), I changed all the parameters of the bios, I tried all BIOS versions in order everything that happened to me, and nothing, and the worst is that of the service shop look like a broken record just know that your Amd 555be is of poor quality (better than the more powerful) but phenom is poor ? is the highest number of AMD! the only thing that is of poor quality is the technology cores unlock 8xx series and their desire to work to fix the problem which we pay users like you and me, if you can test your phenom Be on another plate to see if you unlocked and tell us, greetings
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Hi dieg0
I will ask our Spanish branch to help you if possible.
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Wish I had seen this thread last week when I was deciding between this motherboard and a comparable Asus one.
I have the Phenom II 560 BE, but the same problems. Only two cores show up in the bios (F7) and when I enable the unlock feature, save and restart, the computer won't post. It eventually comes back on with the message that the computer is unstable because of overclocking.
Did you try the manual selection of cores instead of automatic?
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Hi dieg0
I will ask our Spanish branch to help you if possible.
ok thanks runn3R
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Wish I had seen this thread last week when I was deciding between this motherboard and a comparable Asus one.
I have the Phenom II 560 BE, but the same problems. Only two cores show up in the bios (F7) and when I enable the unlock feature, save and restart, the computer won't post. It eventually comes back on with the message that the computer is unstable because of overclocking.
Did you try the manual selection of cores instead of automatic?
Hi, the problem is not put in manual! 10000 times I will have tried in every possible way! nuclei not read hidden! that is the problem and begin to suspect that just makes the black edition. So you can be poblem of programming to unlock when the black edition nuclei because of the multiplier released or what is different from the normal phenom and give some problems. It is my opinion!from what I've seen toquiteando everything! and it is strange that everyone who happens to be black edition, right? greetings
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it may sound strange ??? or even stupid :P but have you tried with the first bios for your mobo?
as sometimes it may happen that function which worked ok in old bios doesn't work in the new one.
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@Dieg0:
The only reason I questioned manual mode was because myxlplyx machine failed to post and gave a message of instability. I'm not sure about your condition, but in mine the extra cores are never detected and the machine boots as if core unlock never existed.
cheers.
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it may sound strange ??? or even stupid :P but have you tried with the first bios for your mobo?
as sometimes it may happen that function which worked ok in old bios doesn't work in the new one.
Hi Beekeeper , I tested with bios f3, f4, f5, f6 and f7 and is not about no! I have tried everything possible! good unless the plate throwing out the window! ;D ;D ;D
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@Dieg0:
The only reason I questioned manual mode was because myxlplyx machine failed to post and gave a message of instability. I'm not sure about your condition, but in mine the extra cores are never detected and the machine boots as if core unlock never existed.
cheers.
Hello, you tried your processor in another board to see if it unlocks? if you can do it! to me what gets caught is when you unlock, it goes black and goes crazy katana3 (I control it with speedfan, not the motherboard!) I change the font so it seemed that he needed to stress, but subi will voltages and the same, I even change the font to a better, more powerful and nothing (to me but no longer thought to change), I removed the hard disks (for if w7 64 and the same), I've played all possible to the bios and nothing, take the mike and put it back in the socket about 10 times and nothing, remove the poor graphics and integrated with anything, remove the ram about 10 times and nothing, etc etc. I've done all I could think! And in an Evo Asus socket and placed in the first release.
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dieg0
I think that it is probably down to the fact that Gigabyte motherboards always have been more robustly built and I expect that also goes for the BIOS settings too. The Asus boards probably have a lower threshold that allows the extra cores to be sensed whereas the Gigabyte boards look for a more stable and solid threshold before "seeing" them.
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dieg0
I think that it is probably down to the fact that Gigabyte motherboards always have been more robustly built and I expect that also goes for the BIOS settings too. The Asus boards probably have a lower threshold that allows the extra cores to be sensed whereas the Gigabyte boards look for a more stable and solid threshold before "seeing" them.
Hi Dark Mantis, I agree! but it is a bitch of fat, but to tell you the truth in the 7xx series gigabyte is the best unlock the nuclei, so that makes me think! It will not be that there is something wrong with the programming of the black edition release, or by having unlocked multipliers or any other difference of 555 or 555be? Nor do I know too Amd! I always had intel, but I'm not far from disappointed with AMD and its performance. No one is my humble opinion.
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No, I understand. I have had AMD CPUs in the past and been quite happy with them but that was years ago and I have had Intel for my last few personal systems. A bit out of touch with the more modern AMD chips.
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Hello all
I started following this thread a few days ago. I have a phenom x2 555 BE and a gigabyte GA-880GMA-ud2h. I am unable to see the third and fourth cores in the bios - which, i believe, is the crux of this thread. I have tried updating the bios from F5 to F6, but this has yielded nothing at all.
I am in Cape Town, South Africa, however I ordered the parts off of newegg in America (around August 2010).
Does anyone have any suggestions or 'tricks' that I can try (besides updating the bios), while your correspondences with Gigabyte go on?
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Hello all
I started following this thread a few days ago. I have a phenom x2 555 BE and a gigabyte GA-880GMA-ud2h. I am unable to see the third and fourth cores in the bios - which, i believe, is the crux of this thread. I have tried updating the bios from F5 to F6, but this has yielded nothing at all.
I am in Cape Town, South Africa, however I ordered the parts off of newegg in America (around August 2010).
Does anyone have any suggestions or 'tricks' that I can try (besides updating the bios), while your correspondences with Gigabyte go on?
Hi, I guess you've tried raising the vcore a bit, if you can sample the chip in another board to unlock the 7 series gigabyte with ACC or a Asus number 7 or 8, and to tell us.
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Try also underclocking the CPU, by lowering the Multiplier and/or the FSB as well to see if that helps.
I'd just like to point out that if the cores can't be unlocked on the GA-880GA-UD3H it will not show up in the list of cores when 'manual' is selected from the Core Unlocker. It seems that it's not that the board can't see the cores, it's that it doesn't see them as unlockable. I was initially confused by this as well.
I've since tested three 555 BEs on the rev 2.0 board I originally posted about and it has successfully unlocked both extra cores on one, only one core on the other, and none on the last one. The one that couldn't be unlocked on the 880GA did unlock on an Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 but that was only after down clocking to about 2.7-2.8GHz and upping the VCore to 1.4125V.
I'm going to point out that this thread should be for those with an issue of not being able to unlock cores for a CPU that is known to be unlockable on another motherboard. Not for those who have no idea if their CPU has any cores that can be unlocked. Initially I didn't really qualify under said criteria until getting my hands on a pair of Asus boards to compare and contrast.
I think that DM et al may be right, and that Gigabyte just has stricter thresholds for unlocking a core.
Yes I was hopping that even the 64GB cache would have made a bigger difference than it did, as it was the difference between the SATA2 and SATA3 drives is negligable. Still I am hoping to test them out on a new P67 board shortly and will be able to see if Gigabyte has made a better job of implimenting the Marvell chip now with more experience to call on.
Yeah, there was similar sentiment with the WD Green EADS 32MB and EARS 64MB caches, no real improvement. I am curious now about benching these on the Asus board to see how they fare.
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Shortly I will be doing a review of the Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD5 and after the initial build and trials of the board want to try my Western Digital Black SATA3 drives in RAID0 on there and see how they fare. Hopefully we might see some better figures this time round.
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Ah yes, I was planning to send my motherboard :D :D
Running for weeks now with the (old) MSI 785.
Rock stable with unlocked cores!!
The Gigabyte board is in my HTPC now (= overkill)
Will I keep it this way?
I think not, the Gigabyte board has far more and better options.
The BIOS is also way better and the same for the sensors (voltage, temp etc).
I think I'll just send the Gigabyte board back to the tech staff.
See what they can find and I'll see it from there.
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Posted by: b_force
I think I'll just send the Gigabyte board back to the tech staff.
See what they can find and I'll see it from there.
I'd be very curious to know what happens if and when you do send that board in b_force, please do keep us updated.
It's perplexing to me the way Gigabyte has handled this whole issue. I mean saying you're not going to offer support for this issue is one thing, but the way in which some support staff chose to respond leaves me at a loss. The inaccurate and inapplicable excuses stemming from ignorance or lethargy, to responses consisting of outright hostility and disdain for customers is just baffling.
Having recently dealt with Asus support I can tell you the difference was stark, night and day stuff. In the last month I've also dealt with Hitachi, OCZ (twice), Corsair, and Logitech, and I can tell you they went above an beyond their support policies for resolutions, and in the one situation when they couldn't (an OCZ issue) they did everything feasibly in their power to do, and offered their regrets that they couldn't do more.
It's been said here before about Gigabyte, excellent products with spotty to horrid support. Their Customer Service department is shooting Gigabyte in the foot, IMO, and doing a dis-service to the hard working and talented engineers, testers, developers etc. in the rest of the company.
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It's been said here before about Gigabyte, excellent products with spotty to horrid support. Their Customer Service department is shooting Gigabyte in the foot, IMO, and doing a dis-service to the hard working and talented engineers, testers, developers etc. in the rest of the company.
This has been pointed out many times before and I must admit to being one of the protagonists. However in their defence I think they (the support staff) are understaffed and overworked which doesn't help in the provision of a good after sales service. I really feel that the company could provide more staff on the support side.
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Do you have any new information regarding unlock core?! ??? Thank... ;)
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Sorry, but this is one of those situations where Gigabyte do not seem to accept there is a problem, despite the evidence presented to them.
Gigabyte say that, as they can unlock their test chips, the problem isn't with the boards or the BIOS but with the AMD CPU's even though users have successfully unlocked the CPU on motherboards produced by rival companies and provided them with evidence of this.
I think this is one of those situations where Gigabyte are burying their heads in the sand, hoping it will just go away.
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Hm, ok... Bye Gigabyte... :o Buy sandy bridge... Motherboard - Asus, Graphic - Asus, case - Asus... :P
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Hm, ok... Bye Gigabyte... :o Buy sandy bridge... Motherboard - Asus, Graphic - Asus, case - Asus... :P
You are right, to buy Asus or OCZ or any other brand, I bought a power supply and I liked a Gigabyte but with my experience 880ga and service technician to fix your problem with the lock and how little and poor responses , I bought an OCZ! Hospital not release deceive the problem is you and your bad programming (the 880 chip has nothing to do as I have said, blaming AMD for its provision) that I know to the other manufacturers like ASUS is also the AMD will provide, right?
Is nonsense from gigabyte to us customers! And so they have no desire to fix it and it is a shame!
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Small update:
The latest F6 bios for the GA-880GMA-UD2h all revisions seems to note
'Note: Remove boot PXE ROM & unlock CPU core function, please use previous BIOS version for full functionality.'
So you can have AM3+ support or core unlock : / Also ironically the page for this board still advertises core unlock.
additonal update:
Following proxy's guide I can now get my machine to post as a phenom x4 b55, but it only posts so far : / there goes my todo list for the weekend.
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Well, I'm 0 for 3.
Just received my RMA 555BE, no cores unlocked.
That was my third CPU that did nothing. may as well go to F6 :)
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I bought a gigabyte GA-880GMA-UD2H, have a Phenom 550 Be which i used in triple core on asrock 780 and asus 785 . I would simply not unlock on this board. If they would restore manual core control it would be ok. I tried lowering multiplicator, more voltage no use. If they don't make a newer version of bios with manual core control i will return it and buy asus.
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Succesfully unlocked Athlon 435 from triple to quad today on Asrock a780gm-le/128m . It doesn't even start on gigabyte GA-880GMA-UD2H rev 2.1. Thankfully i can still return the board. I think i will get Msi instead.
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Replaced the board with an Asus M5a88-M evo, unlocks without a hitch.
Gigabyte board has been sold on.
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It is a shame that the company isn't addressing this shortfall as there are an awful lot of customers complaining about exactly this issue. I can't understand why Gigabyte isn't doing something about it as obviously it isn't the CPUs. Maybe more people beed to complain to GGTS and make them aware of this. The trouble is moaning on the forum is all well and good but it doesn't get the problem to the ears of the people who need to hear about it.
Just enter your email address and click on the language of choice.
GGTS http://ggts.gigabyte.com/
Please expect several days for a reply.
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Me :''I just boought an GA-880GMA-UD2h motherboard. Before it i had an Asrock Amd 780, and Asus 785. Any of the 2 boards could unlock a third core of the Cpu. On the Asrock manualy, on Asus auto. I have been using it triple-core for almost 2 years. I have tried the auto setting on Gigabyte and the sistem doesn't start. I have updated the Bios version to F5. Couldn't u build a version of bios with acc and manual core control like on older boards? I've seen ACC on older boards in M.I.T. menu. If you will not build such a bios i have no alternative than to return the board to the shop an get an Asus board instead.''
Gigabyte: ''
Thank you for supporting GIGABYTE products. About the issue you mentioned, there are several possibilities to effect the result of CPU unlock, for example, CPU quality and process, etc. Therefore,we are not able to guarantee the result. If currently your CPU cannot unlock, then we will suggest you to test with other CPU and see how it works. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Besides, the ACC function in the BIOS is [CPU Unlock].''
Me : '' I tried today with an Athlon 435 triple core . Both asus785 and asrock780 boards unlocked a 4th core stable and L3 cache(it has been used like this for over 1 yer), but GA-880GMA-UD2 refuses to start with [Cpu unlock] on. Both boards have more settings in acc, like Manual core control etc. What i cannot understand is why your newer and more expensive board has only 2 functions - Cpu unlock and Active core control. I have seen older gigabyte boards with a lot more functions.''
Gigabyte : Thank you again for your kindly mail. About the issue you mention, kindly note that unlock result depends on your CPU quality. Therefore, you can take your own risk to unlock; however, the result is not guarantee. If you cannot receive the unlock result, please test with other CPU. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Besides, since different motherboards have different chipsets, the BIOS option are not the same either.
So if you buy more newer more expensive boards you receive less than a cheap older one. I returned it to the shop and wenk for Asrock 890FX Deluxe5. Asrock should give lessons on unlocking. Unlocked both Phenom 550 into triple core and Athlon 435 into Phenom quad core.
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As I am sure has been mentioned before in this thread I think it must be something to do with Gigabyte having the bar set a bit higher than some other motherboard manufacturers and hence the CPU doesn't unlock as it will on some other boards. I don't know if unlocking a chip that was of a lesser quality would have detrimental effects on the overall stability of the platform but I would have thought so. Maybe that is why Gigabyte takes this stance. :-\
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hello, long ago and did not speak at the forum, my experience hospital, I bought a udh3 880ga gigayte and phenom 2 555be, not to mention release or I get tired of sending messages to Gigabyte and all I got is tired of them and their bad faith when it comes to content and make their technologies work fraudulent release of nuclei (and only made to blame the mic that works wonders AMD) first in an Asus probe from a friend and unlock Asrock and then a release, the 880ga gigabyte sold, and bought an ASUS evo 880 with the same chip and unlock without hesitation and the first, my advice is buy one product k gives gigabyte not function like their technologies and there are good passing mark on something and they solve it, eg ASUS, OCZ, Corsair etc
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I believe that all answers that come from Gigabyte are generic, that there is not actual person that gave them. It is the only explenation that comes to my mind since I'v seen replyes to other people and in compare to mine they are exactly the same. Maybe this is the reason of lack of Gigabyte's reaction to problems with newer revisions of MB, I mean, how complicated it can be for them to publish new version of bios?
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This is what Gigabyte answered to me:
"Thank you again for your kindly mail and inquiry. About the issue you mentioned, since different motherboards have different BIOS design, the Advanced Core Calibration is same as CPU unlock. The CPU hide the core that may work not stable or have some problems. When you unlock the CPU, it may influence the CPU efficacy. Kindly note CPU unlock is sort of overclock that the result is not guaranteed. Besides, a lot of factors can effect the result of CPU unlock, ex: CPU quality. Therefore, CPU unlock is not a guarantee selection. Sorry for the inconvenience."
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I believe that all answers that come from Gigabyte are generic, that there is not actual person that gave them. It is the only explenation that comes to my mind since I'v seen replyes to other people and in compare to mine they are exactly the same. Maybe this is the reason of lack of Gigabyte's reaction to problems with newer revisions of MB, I mean, how complicated it can be for them to publish new version of bios?
Hello GladiatorYU , It's not difficult to make a bios to unlock, the problem is that when they make new products go from the above is what I demonstrated in my case gigabyte, and it is a shame! luckily my 880ga udh3 sold with a asus to unlock the first so do not tell stories of the quality of the 555 be, as I have mine unlocked by Asus with 1.4 to 4.2 for vcore and 45 degrees does not happen with Corsair H60 with two pull puss GT, so see if quality is poor my 55be! (that is sarcasm), the only bad thing was the programming of the gigabyte bios and do not know what Asus has done to unlock the 880, finally a shame! Another time put updates gigabyte 880ga udh3 compatible with AM3 + to paste sensor temperatures and for two days look out of curiosity and did not announce it supports a new bios (to give you the idea of programming gigabyte embarrassing) I do not buy anything gigabyte boards in my life are fresh and decent OC but if you have a problem or do not know or do not want to solve even worse.
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Yeah, I make crappy product and everybody else is guilty for it's bad performance exept me. That is basicly what gigabyte told me. I also think that I will never buy gigabyte's product again. Even worse is fact that they have real option to unlock extra cores in older revisions of this motherboards. I have 880gm-d2h rev. 4.0 and here is video on youtube where guy unlocked his cores with rev 1.0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBNSlGxgLq4 And even worse thing is that they are still advertising those motherboards as "easy core unlockers". Shame on them.
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Yeah, I make crappy product and everybody else is guilty for it's bad performance exept me. That is basicly what gigabyte told me. I also think that I will never buy gigabyte's product again. Even worse is fact that they have real option to unlock extra cores in older revisions of this motherboards. I have 880gm-d2h rev. 4.0 and here is video on youtube where guy unlocked his cores with rev 1.0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBNSlGxgLq4 And even worse thing is that they are still advertising those motherboards as "easy core unlockers". Shame on them.
Yes, it is a shame and a scam! AMD me if I seriously cabrearia gigabyte, do nothing but say that their processors are of poor quality! In my case the problem is not had the 555be but the poor programming of the changes that it is responsible as the gigabyte is the assembly of the plate is not unlocked, once I get tired of sending emails to gigabyte and only gave me long to say that the 555 be of poor quality, the only thing that is of poor quality is their service and unlock system udh3 880ga and even telling them to unlock Asus smooth plate was to blame my 555be , you have to face harder gigabyte!
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Dieg0 you are one bitter, angry man ::). If you're ever in Toronto, Canada or I'm ever in your part of Spain, I'll buy you a beer or cerveza. You need to relax a bit, life's too short...and so am I from what the ladies tell me ;D.
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Dieg0 you are one bitter, angry man ::). If you're ever in Toronto, Canada or I'm ever in your part of Spain, I'll buy you a beer or cerveza. You need to relax a bit, life's too short...and so am I from what the ladies tell me ;D.
I bitter? jejeje, it goes! since sold the gigabyte board I am very happy! to you if you sell a car that meets your advertising has to offer you goats! as this is the same! and I'm not bitter, but if my experience is that people do not cheat, they do not hesitate to say what is gigabyte! and thanks for all the beer! but I took with my friends! , You ation in gigabyte?
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I haven't read this entire thread, but I've read enough of it to know you guys will probably find my experience interesting.
I'm running an AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE processor (just like most of you) on a Gigabyte GMA-880-UD2h Revision 2.0 board. This is my second GMA-880-UD2H Rev 2.0 board. On the first board, I was able to unlock all 4 cores on my 555 BE processor, stable, no problems. The first board however, after about 4 months, ended up with a bad DIMM slot. I RMA'd it to Gigabyte and after the second repair attempt, they just sent me a new board altogether. EXACTLY the same model number and revision number, but a new board because the serial # was different. Since I've gotten the new board, my 555BE will NOT unlock whatsoever. The additional cores don't even appear in the BIOS when I try to use Core Unlocker. We're talking the BIOS only "sees" 2 cores.
This is quite annoying for me. I can't fathom why core unlocker would work on one board and then NOT work on EXACTLY the same board (other than the serial#)!?
Something fishy is going on here.
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I haven't read this entire thread, but I've read enough of it to know you guys will probably find my experience interesting.
I'm running an AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE processor (just like most of you) on a Gigabyte GMA-880-UD2h Revision 2.0 board. This is my second GMA-880-UD2H Rev 2.0 board. On the first board, I was able to unlock all 4 cores on my 555 BE processor, stable, no problems. The first board however, after about 4 months, ended up with a bad DIMM slot. I RMA'd it to Gigabyte and after the second repair attempt, they just sent me a new board altogether. EXACTLY the same model number and revision number, but a new board because the serial # was different. Since I've gotten the new board, my 555BE will NOT unlock whatsoever. The additional cores don't even appear in the BIOS when I try to use Core Unlocker. We're talking the BIOS only "sees" 2 cores.
This is quite annoying for me. I can't fathom why core unlocker would work on one board and then NOT work on EXACTLY the same board (other than the serial#)!?
Something fishy is going on here.
Hello Cruxader, to guess gigabyte response if you sent as an email! (Response from gigabyte) your 555be is of poor quality! As explained before and now unlock! it will not be bad programming of the bios chip with 880! Lords of gigabyte is pathetic that so teased customers! (former client in my case do not buy anything else in my life gigabyte) and if they can not do something does not deceive people by selling more!
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No he doesn't work for Gigabyte, like the rest of us he is a volunteer. runn3R is the only one on the forum who is an employee as he is the Forum Administrator.
If you want to contact Gigabyte then you can email GGTS here:
Just enter your email address and click on the language of choice.
GGTS http://ggts.gigabyte.com/
Please expect several days for a reply.
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No he doesn't work for Gigabyte, like the rest of us he is a volunteer. runn3R is the only one on the forum who is an employee as he is the Forum Administrator.
If you want to contact Gigabyte then you can email GGTS here:
Just enter your email address and click on the language of choice.
GGTS http://ggts.gigabyte.com/
Please expect several days for a reply.
Hello Dark Mantis, many users thank you for your selfless work of the forum (including me), but you say send an email to gigabyte is useless! I speak from experience, I bought a udh3 880ga and this will not unlock or a hammer, the euro managed to sell losing 30 and bought an Asus with the same chip 880 and the first and 100% stable Vcore 1.40 and each core to 4. And I get tired of your day to send messages to probe unlock gigabyte because the Asus motherboard from a friend and the first release the two remaining cores, if they do not send 50 messages and only sends them either received a single response that was his 555be is of poor quality! And unlocking cores and CO 2 to 4g with 24 hours with Prime or a mistake and given me problems since you unlock even once! So I promise to you and to gigabyte is not the 555be poor quality, which is of poor quality is its programming to unlock the chip cores with 880 gigabyte of
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I got a response form Gigabyte tech support. I'm about 99% certain they didn't read my post.
Their answer was this:
Dear customer,
Phenom II x2 555BE is dual core only, there has no guaranty processor could be unlocked, user can try update mother board to latest F6E check if cpu is unlock able.
Best regards,
Gigabyte technical support team
Hello? Did you not just read that the SAME processor unlocked on the SAME model and revision of the motherboard previously?
I'd like to know where I can get the 6E bios update too. The only thing on there website is the 6 beta edition of the BIOS.
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Oh, okay. I didn't realize that 6E was the beta bios, but here is the kicker, it says RIGHT on the download page that core unlocker is disabled in that version of the bios file.
Awesome tech support Gigabyte....
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Have been fixed and the problems of release? Will be no
http://es.beruby.com/promocode/uCYoX1
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MODERATOR EDIT: copied text deleted.
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Thanks, Tiger, I missed that setting. The board booted nicely with all 4 enabled. Memtext86+ now reports it as a PhII X4 B55. Once I get my drives set up, I'll see how it does in Windows.
Thanks again.
bsalon
Just another one of your copied posts by other members. It won't be tolerated so I suggest that you stop.