P55A-UD4 startup "BSD" ~ why?

[Dark Mantis]

There is no definite answer but it would be worth trying as you suggest and maybe even take the voltage up to 1.3v

[Searcher1]

Now the latter one if Nvidia driver related but the ntoskrnl is obviously a core W7 file

I would say that you are correct in your assessment of the files.

The clock skew that you asked about is to help balance the timings if the signals take longer to reach one place than another but normally that is already worked out and the optimal timing set as standard.

So with the error code is it a vCore or a clock function question???

I will disable the C1E and EIST and set the vCore to 1.25v and see how that behaves???

Hi DM

Well I thought I would update this thread as follows:-

Up until 2 days ago all was AOK bootups 100% fine ~ prolem solved!  But no a couple of days ago I got the Startup BSD again and the same this morning!!!!! So just what gives???

I have not tried upping the vCore again yet because just why the heck has it started to misbehave again after such a nice long period of stability???

[Dark Mantis]

Hi again Searcher.

Crazy. But that is computers sometimes, just when you think you've got it sorted. I must admit I cannot think of anything at the moment though. Maybe Lsdmeasap will have an idea. I will ask him to take a look.

[Lsdmeasap]

Can you please post your current full settings again, thanks!

And what is the BSOD code you are getting now just to be sure?

[Searcher1]

Hi both

Doh! a Homer Simpson moment as I did not even bother to read the BSD code........remiss on my part.  I will make sure to note it when it happens again???

Lsdmeasap ~ What "current full settings" do you want me to reprise???

[Lsdmeasap]

YOu can filter the event log for the BSOD, go to event viewer, then windows logs, then system and filter the results for event ID 1001

I'd like to see your current full BIOS settings for the MIT section, below is a template you can fill out with your current settings.

Ignore any setting currently in this template, and fill in with your exact settings.

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[B]Advanced Frequency Settings:[/B]

CPU Clock Ratio 21x

[B]Advanced Core Features  [Press Enter]:[/B]

Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech................[Disabled]
CPU Cores Enabled........................[All]
CPU Multi-Threading......................[Disabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)..................[Auto]
C3/C6/C7 State Support...................[Auto]
CPU Thermal Monitor......................[Auto]
CPU EIST Function........................[Auto]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT...................[Auto]

QPI Clock Ratio..........................[Auto]
[I]QPI Link Speed........................[x][/I]
[I]Uncore Clock Ratio....................[18x][/I]
Uncore Frequency.........................3600MHz

[B]>>>>>   Standard Clock Control <<<<<[/B]

Base Clock (BCLK) Control................[Enabled]
BCLK Frequency ..........................[200]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)..........[Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...........[Disabled]
[I]Memory Frequency (MHz)................2000[/I]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz)..............[Auto]
C.I.A.2..................................[Disabled]

[B]>>>>>   Advanced Clock Control   <<<<<[/B]

CPU Clock Drive..........................[ 800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive..................[ 900mV]
CPU Clock Skew...........................[    0ps]

[B]Advanced Memory Settings:[/B]

Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)..........[Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...........[10.0]
[I]Memory Frequency (MHz)................2000[/I]
Performance Enhance   (SPD)............. [Turbo]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)............ [Expert]
[I]Profile DDR Voltage ..................
Profile QPI Voltage ..................[/I]
Channel Interleaving.....................[Auto]
Rank Interleaving........................[Auto]

[B]>>>>>   Channel A & B[/B]

Channel A Timing Settings            [Press Enter]:
Cas Latency Time........................[8]
tRCD....................................[8]
tRP.....................................[9]
tRAS...................................[24]

>>>>>   Advanced Timing Control

tRC....................................[Auto]
tRRD...................................[Auto]
tWTR...................................[Auto]
tWR....................................[Auto]
tWTP...................................[Auto]
tWL....................................[Auto]
tRFC...................................[Auto]
tRTP...................................[Auto]
tFAW...................................[Auto]
Command Rate (CMD).................. 1 [1]

[B]>>>>>   Misc Timing Control[/B]

B2B Cas Delay..........................[Auto]
Round Trip Latency.....................[Auto]

Channel A Turnaround Settings [Press Enter]:
Different DIMMs........................[Auto]
Different DIMMs........................[Auto]
On The Same Rank.......................[Auto]

[B]>>>>>   Channel A Writes Followed By Writes[/B]

Different DIMMs........................[Auto]
Different DIMMs........................[Auto]
On The Same Rank.......................[Auto]


[B]Advanced Voltage Settings:[/B]

******Mother Board Voltage Control ******
Voltage Types............Normal......Current
--------------------------------------------

[B]>>> CPU[/B]
Load Line Calibration...................[Level 2]
CPU Vcore..................1.19375v..[1.xv]
QPI/VTT Voltage..........1.100v.....[1.x00v]

[B]>>> MCH/ICH[/B]
PCH Core....................1.050v.....[Auto]
CPU PLL......................1.800v.....[Auto]

[B]>>> DRAM[/B]
DRAM Voltage..............1.500v.....[1.660v]
DRAM Termination.........0.750v.....[Auto]
Ch-A Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
Ch-A Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
Ch-B Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
Ch-B Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]


[B]Miscellaneous Settings:[/B][/SIZE]

Isochronous Support....................[Enabled]
Virtualisation technology..............[Enabled]
USB Storage Detect ....................[Disabled]

[Searcher1]

Right, I have copied and printed out your template and will fill it is with the MIT page details in the BIOS but from memory the list was nowhere near as long as the one you posted???

Here is the info from the event viewer the .dmp was taken at 15th April 09:12hrs this morning but oddly the one two days ago is not there, the one before the 15th April is 25th March ~ odd???

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck.  The bugcheck was: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000031, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff88002f64180, 0x0000000000000002). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 041511-20389-01.

Another oddity happened a shortish while ago ~ I came back to the PC after leaving it idle for approx 1 hour and normally the screensaver is running but I found it had frozen!  The lights in the MS trackball were out and though the keyboard Num Lock was lit it was unresponsive to even Ctl/Alt/Del 'command'.  I had to do a soft reboot to get started again ~ I do not recall that happening before.  For the record on my old 845e chipset board even powered down the Trackball lights were 'on' and at the time I found that kind of strange but Gigabyte said it was AOK.

For the record the Trackball drivers were (are?) the most current but could there be an issue with the Trackball which is an MS Trackball Explorer One USB/PS2 compatible and connected via USB.

I will now go note those MIT details and post back soonish

[Searcher1]

Okey dokey here is the MIT listed info:-

I look forward to any insight you can offer based on this info and the above post re event viewer and other most recent issue???

I have entered my seen settings in the [  ] in all CAPS where text populates the field and the numerics when present where they are different to your template and noted where appropriate any such settings “not found” in my BIOS.  If unchanged they are identical to your figures
Advanced Frequency Settings:

CPU Clock Ratio 21x

Advanced Core Features [Press Enter]:

Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech.................[AUTO]
CPU Cores Enabled.........................[All]
CPU Multi-Threading........................[Disabled]......... Not found
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)..................[DISABLED]
C3/C6/ State Support.......................[Auto]
CPU Thermal Monitor........................[Auto]
CPU EIST Function.........................[DISABLED]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT..................[Auto]

QPI Clock Ratio..........................[Auto]
QPI Link Speed..........................[4.86GHz]
Uncore Clock Ratio......................[16x]
Uncore Frequency.......................2133MHz

>>>>> Standard Clock Control <<<<<

Base Clock (BCLK) Control.......................[DISABLED]
BCLK Frequency ....................................[133]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)..............[Disabled].... Not found
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...............[AUTO]
Memory Frequency (MHz)......................1333
PCI Express Frequency (MHz)................[Auto]
C.I.A.2.....................................................[Disabled]..... Not found

>>>>> Advanced Clock Control <<<<<

CPU Clock Drive.....................................[ 800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mV]
CPU Clock Skew.....................................[ 0ps]

Advanced Memory Settings:

Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)..........[Disabled].........Not found
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...........[AUTO]
Memory Frequency (MHz).....................1333
Performance Enhance (SPD).................. [Turbo]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)............... [AUTO]
Profile DDR Voltage ..............................1.5V
Profile QPI Voltage .............................1.1V
Channel Interleaving............................[6 Auto]
Rank Interleaving.................................[4 Auto]

>>>>> Channel A & B

Channel A Timing Settings [Press Enter]:
Cas Latency Time.............................[9 AUTO]
tRCD...........................................[9 AUTO]
tRP..............................................[9 AUTO]
tRAS...........................................[24 AUTO]

>>>>> Advanced Timing Control

tRC............................................[33 Auto]
tRRD.........................................[4 Auto]
tWTR.........................................[5 Auto]
tWR...........................................[10 Auto]
tWTP.........................................[21 Auto]
tWL...........................................[7 Auto]
tRFC..........................................[108 Auto]
tRTP..........................................[5 Auto]
tFAW........................................[20 Auto]
Command Rate (CMD).................. [1 AUTO]

>>>>> Misc Timing Control

B2B Cas Delay............................[Auto]
Round Trip Latency....................[46 Auto] NOTE all settings the same for B Channel except this one says 48 AUTO

THIS SET NOT FOUND
Channel A Turnaround Settings [Press Enter]:
Different DIMMs........................[Auto]
Different DIMMs........................[Auto]
On The Same Rank.......................[Auto]

THIS SET NOT FOUND
>>>>> Channel A Writes Followed By Writes

Different DIMMs........................[Auto]
Different DIMMs........................[Auto]
On The Same Rank.......................[Auto]


Advanced Voltage Settings:

******Mother Board Voltage Control ******
Voltage Types............Normal......Current
--------------------------------------------

>>> CPU
Load Line Calibration...................[AUTO]
CPU Vcore.....................1.3000v..[1.25000V]
QPI/VTT Voltage..........1.100v.....[AUTO]

>>> MCH/ICH
PCH Core.....................1.050v.....[Auto]
CPU PLL......................1.800v.....[Auto]

>>> DRAM
DRAM Voltage..............1.500v.....[AUTO]
DRAM Termination.........0.750v....[Auto]
Ch-A Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
Ch-A Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
Ch-B Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
Ch-B Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]


Miscellaneous Settings:

Isochronous Support....................[Enabled]
Virtualisation technology..............[Enabled]
USB Storage Detect ....................[Disabled] This one NOT FOUND


TIA

[Searcher1]

On an oddly (un)related note.

The freeze and soft reboot I was forced to somehow deleted all my login cookies i.e. sites like this one where I kept logged in were no longer so ~ as far as I can tell all the "stay logged in sites" were lost.

I ran my usual Hit Man Pro, MalwareBytes and SuperAntiSpyware & done a full scan using my AV software and apart from tracking cookies and one spurious setup.exe (found by Hit Man) in the Temp Internet folder all is clean

For the record the OS is W7 SP1 fully patched apart from not installed IE9, using IE8 now.

[Dark Mantis]

Yes I find the same with IE8. If it crashes I tend to lose all my cookies when I reload.

[Lsdmeasap]

IE9 instantly crashes here, no matter what tabs keep crashing, I use firefox but installed IE9 for testing and quickly removed it 

Your BSOD 0x00000101 means not enough Vcore.

Please link or give the model of your memory, I see F3-10666CL9-4GBRLin your CPU-z images  but can't find a link to that anywhere

Try these settings

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Advanced Frequency Settings:

CPU Clock Ratio 21x

Advanced Core Features [Press Enter]:

Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech.................[AUTO]
CPU Cores Enabled.........................[All]
CPU Multi-Threading........................[Disabled]......... Not found << you have this?   Have you updated your BIOS yet and applied optimized defaults and rebooted?   If not please do!

CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)..................[DISABLED]
C3/C6/ State Support.......................[Auto]
CPU Thermal Monitor........................[Auto]
CPU EIST Function.........................[DISABLED]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT..................[Auto]

QPI Clock Ratio..........................[Auto]
QPI Link Speed..........................[4.86GHz]
Uncore Clock Ratio......................[16x]
Uncore Frequency.......................2133MHz

>>>>> Standard Clock Control <<<<<

Base Clock (BCLK) Control.......................[DISABLED]
BCLK Frequency ....................................[133]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)..............[Disabled].... Not found
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...............[AUTO]  << Set 10
Memory Frequency (MHz)......................1333
PCI Express Frequency (MHz)................[Auto]
C.I.A.2.....................................................[Disabled]..... Not found

>>>>> Advanced Clock Control <<<<<

CPU Clock Drive.....................................[ 800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mV]
CPU Clock Skew.....................................[ 0ps]

Advanced Memory Settings:

Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)..........[Disabled].........Not found
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...........[AUTO]
Memory Frequency (MHz).....................1333
Performance Enhance (SPD).................. [Turbo] << Set Extreme
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)............... [AUTO]
Profile DDR Voltage ..............................1.5V
Profile QPI Voltage .............................1.1V
Channel Interleaving............................[6 Auto]
Rank Interleaving.................................[4 Auto]

>>>>> Channel A & B

Channel A Timing Settings [Press Enter]:
Cas Latency Time.............................[9 AUTO]
tRCD...........................................[9 AUTO]
tRP..............................................[9 AUTO]
tRAS...........................................[24 AUTO]

>>>>> Advanced Timing Control

tRC............................................[33 Auto]
tRRD.........................................[4 Auto]
tWTR.........................................[5 Auto]
tWR...........................................[10 Auto]
tWTP.........................................[21 Auto]
tWL...........................................[7 Auto]
tRFC..........................................[108 Auto]
tRTP..........................................[5 Auto]
tFAW........................................[20 Auto]
Command Rate (CMD).................. [1 AUTO]

>>>>> Misc Timing Control

B2B Cas Delay............................[Auto]
Round Trip Latency....................[46 Auto] NOTE all settings the same for B Channel except this one says 48 AUTO

THIS SET NOT FOUND
Channel A Turnaround Settings [Press Enter]:
Different DIMMs........................[Auto]
Different DIMMs........................[Auto]
On The Same Rank.......................[Auto]

THIS SET NOT FOUND
>>>>> Channel A Writes Followed By Writes

Different DIMMs........................[Auto]
Different DIMMs........................[Auto]
On The Same Rank.......................[Auto]


Advanced Voltage Settings:

******Mother Board Voltage Control ******
Voltage Types............Normal......Current
--------------------------------------------

>>> CPU
Load Line Calibration...................[AUTO]
CPU Vcore.....................1.3000v..[1.25000V]
QPI/VTT Voltage..........1.100v.....[AUTO]  << Set 1.2-1.3

>>> MCH/ICH
PCH Core.....................1.050v.....[Auto]
CPU PLL......................1.800v.....[Auto]

>>> DRAM
DRAM Voltage..............1.500v.....[AUTO]  << Set 1.5-1.55
DRAM Termination.........0.750v....[Auto]
Ch-A Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
Ch-A Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
Ch-B Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
Ch-B Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]


Miscellaneous Settings:

Isochronous Support....................[Enabled]
Virtualisation technology..............[Enabled]
USB Storage Detect ....................[Disabled] This one NOT FOUND  << It is there, in Integrated Peripherals page (Will need re-enabled to use USB in DOS or Qflash)


[Searcher1]

Hi both

Right, I need to print out your revised list i.e. to see the suggested amendments for when I am in the BIOS 

In regard to the CPU multithreading and the USB item ~ I have used Q-Flash a while ago (didn't the instructions for Q-Flash say to select 'optimised defaults' I followed them to the letter  )  to update my BIOS to F15 (I think this is still the most up to date???) So the USB must be enabled but as you say on another 'page' in the BIOS and I am sure I read the 'page' correctly and CPU Mutlithreading was not there??? Does it only show depending on the processor fitted ~ I have the i5 760 Quad core.

As for the RAM ~ it is G-Skill RipJaw DDR3 PC3 10666, two off 4086MB on the packaging label it says CL9-9-9-24 1.5V

With the suggested settings amendments I would appreciate an explanation of what each settings does and the thinking behind the changes ~ I do like to try to understand what I am (being asked to) doing

[Lsdmeasap]

You can ignore the multi-threading as it will not be in your BIOS since the CPU does not have it.

You'll need to enable legacy storage and or legacy USB in the Integrated Peripherals page of the BIOS to flash from Qflash, here is a guide
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/27576-bios-flashing-how-qflash-guide.html

[Searcher1]

Good morning Lsdmeasap

I used Dark Mantis' Q-Flash guide when I flashed the BIOS to F15 so all is well on that front

As mentioned if you can clue me in as to the reasoning behind the changes you suggest that would be much appreciated as I do like to understand why the changes are being made and as such what effect they are intended to yield???

[Dark Mantis]

Hi Searcher

You were quite right about loading the Optimised BIOS Default settings after updating the BIOS which will put most thing to the best settings that can be made for general systems. Obviously the settings can't be optimal for every different setup so we have to tweak a few to make things the best performance they can be. I will leavre it to Lsdmeasap to explain exactly what he has altered and why.