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UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?

I am looking for the highest performance CPU air cooler that I can use with the following build:

LIAN LI PC-P80
Intel Core i7-980X
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD9
24GB G.SKILL Trident+ Turbulence II DDR3 2000 (8-9-8-24)
LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner
2 Seagate Barracuda XT
SPARKLE COMPUTER CORP 1250W ATX12V
2 x SPARKLE SXX4651024D5-NM GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi)

I was going to use a Noctua NH-D14 but I found it that it is too big to work with my RAM. Can I use Megahalems, Venomous X, or Cogage Arrow with my system? Are there other air coolers that I should consider? How far is the distance from the "CPU HIS" to the first memory slot on the UD9 Mobo?

Thanks for any help!

Dark Mantis

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Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2010, 09:24:26 pm »
Another highly regarded cooler is the Xigmatek "Thor's Hammer". Once again itis very large but I dont think that it would interfere with the memory.You can find the details of it here including sizing: http://www.candccentral.co.uk/Xigmatek-Thor-s-Hammer-Black-Nickel-CPU-Cooler.html You would need to specify your own fan solution.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2010, 09:47:25 pm »
I'm sure Titan Fenrir will not have much space left for your memory module.

Since all your parts are so powerful, probably you may consider "liquid cooling", which in my opinion, may save you lot of space especially at the CPU area. Dark Mantis has great experience in "liquid cooling" and I'm sure he can give great advices.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2010, 09:50:35 pm by onemilimeter »
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Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2010, 09:51:39 pm »
Hey onemilimeter now you are talking my language ;D
I don't know how you feel about liquid cooling but it would be a good option for you. It is a bit more expensive but can keep the noise and tempertures down especially if you plan to overclock.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2010, 10:39:53 pm »
In my opinion, if he has extra budget, he should go for "liquid cooling" and push the system to its maximum... post some benchmarks here :)
His system will be among the best in the world...
Intel Core i7 920 O/C @3.36GHz, Gigabyte X58A-UD3R (Rev. 1.0), G.Skill ECO Series F3-12800CL8D-4GBECO 2x2 GB, OCZ StealthXStream 600W, Titan Fenrir V2 CPU Cooler, Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB SATA3, XFX 8600GT 256MB, LG GH22NS50, Benq G222HDL

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Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2010, 10:43:53 pm »
I would have to say it would be interesting, only if I were him I would boot from a SATA6 SSD then it really would be fast. My SSD made a huge difference compared to magnetic disks. Maybe when he comes back he will consider it. ;)
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2010, 02:45:01 am »
Water cooling is an idea that I might entertain. What are the risks associated with "liquid cooling"? How bad is maintenance? Would I need to change the fluid every few months? If so how hard is that?

I was thinking about putting one of these in unless there is a better option at $400?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227578

How much would a liquid cooling set up cost? What would I need to buy for a entry, mid, or high water cooling system?

How do you suppose this water cooled computer would compare to a 12 core Mac pro when doing workstation applications (CS5)?

Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2010, 02:50:10 am »
I received some good information on air cooling on "tweaktown" forums:

http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/40882-ud9-oversized-cpu-coolers-tall-ram-heatspreaders-possible.html

Sorry about starting so many threads on the subject.

Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2010, 05:51:18 am »
You guys think I should have gone with one of these mountain mod cases?

http://www.mountainmods.com/CYO_picker.php

Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2010, 06:34:07 am »
I read the beginners guide to water cooling it as very informative. What would be the best way for me to set up water cooling with my case? Id like to keep as much of the current air cooling active as possible.

I'm mostly building this for certain workstation applications so cooling the video cards is not my main concern. It seems like the CPU, motherboard, and ram would be the things that I would get the most benefit from water cooling. Everything else can be cooled by Air?

What do you guys think?

Thanks for the help (I need it).

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Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2010, 06:44:36 am »
The worst watercooling is still far superior to the best air cooling..... ;D

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Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2010, 08:23:01 am »
Water cooling is an idea that I might entertain. What are the risks associated with "liquid cooling"? How bad is maintenance? Would I need to change the fluid every few months? If so how hard is that?
I was thinking about putting one of these in unless there is a better option at $400?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227578
How much would a liquid cooling set up cost? What would I need to buy for a entry, mid, or high water cooling system?
How do you suppose this water cooled computer would compare to a 12 core Mac pro when doing workstation applications (CS5)?

I am glad to seeyou returned to the forum and let's see if we can give you a guiding hand.

The risks assosciated with liquid cooling are not much more than with air cooling if it is set up properly with good equiptment. It should be leak tested  before powering up the system and if sound then it should be fine. See the pictures of some of our rigs in the thread : http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2373.0.html
Generally the fluid used isn't water, even though "pure" water isn't electrically conductive contrary to normal beliefs, most people use a non conductive fluid such as Feser1 or Primochill Ice. This is recommended to be changed every year or so. Not difficult if the system is set up properly.

I must admit to not knowing anything of real value about the drive you mentioned apart from the fact that they exist.  How they compare to a normal SSD I can't say. They do appear to be more expensive though. My one reservation would be that they would be sharing bandwidth with the graphics cards, but I know that isn't a problem in your case.

I don't think I would bother watercooling your memory but maybe just your CPU and if you are using magnetic disks for storage and they are going to get a hammering then you could cool them as well. Your motherboard can be watercooled but it depends on how much strain you will put it under. Prices are from£60(no good to you) to several hundreds for a top end cooling system which we can discuss later if you are interested.

Hope this helps somewhat. ;)
« Last Edit: August 04, 2010, 10:40:35 am by Dark Mantis »
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2010, 05:22:28 pm »
Unless it leaks  ;)

The worst watercooling is still far superior to the best air cooling..... ;D

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Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2010, 05:31:13 pm »
Unless it leaks  ;)

The worst watercooling is still far superior to the best air cooling..... ;D

Generally the fluid used isn't water, even though "pure" water isn't electrically conductive contrary to normal beliefs, most people use a non conductive fluid such as Feser1 or Primochill Ice.

 That's why I wrote this part.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
i7 920
Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: UD9 + oversized CPU coolers + Tall ram heatspreaders is it possible?
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2010, 05:51:15 pm »
Alright, screw it lets do it! After reading the beginners guide it doesn't looks as hard or as risky as I thought.

It seems like water cooling is lot more mainstream and well tested now. I heard the CPUs cant burn up anymore because they will slow down before temps get to hot (if a motor breaks). Still I wonder if anyone offers a warranty for a system like this.

Can you estimate the cost for a good or very good water cooling system for the P80?

Also how much do you think it would cost to go with more extreme enthusiast system like a horizontal "Ascension" from mountain mods with large number of fans and single loupe through the motherboard (already has waterblock on it) and the CPU? Would that be complete overkill, or will the upgrade be worth the investment? It looks like one of there cases could be set up with 49 120mm fans!

http://www.mountainmods.com/CYO_picker.php

I'm shipping the 2TB harddrives back and getting the PCIe SSD. I'll wait for a few more hybrid drives to come out before investing in another HD. I should have an extra Caviar around here somewhere.




Water cooling is an idea that I might entertain. What are the risks associated with "liquid cooling"? How bad is maintenance? Would I need to change the fluid every few months? If so how hard is that?
I was thinking about putting one of these in unless there is a better option at $400?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227578
How much would a liquid cooling set up cost? What would I need to buy for a entry, mid, or high water cooling system?
How do you suppose this water cooled computer would compare to a 12 core Mac pro when doing workstation applications (CS5)?

I am glad to seeyou returned to the forum and let's see if we can give you a guiding hand.

The risks assosciated with liquid cooling are not much more than with air cooling if it is set up properly with good equiptment. It should be leak tested  before powering up the system and if sound then it should be fine. See the pictures of some of our rigs in the thread : http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2373.0.html
Generally the fluid used isn't water, even though "pure" water isn't electrically conductive contrary to normal beliefs, most people use a non conductive fluid such as Feser1 or Primochill Ice. This is recommended to be changed every year or so. Not difficult if the system is set up properly.

I must admit to not knowing anything of real value about the drive you mentioned apart from the fact that they exist.  How they compare to a normal SSD I can't say. They do appear to be more expensive though. My one reservation would be that they would be sharing bandwidth with the graphics cards, but I know that isn't a problem in your case.

I don't think I would bother watercooling your memory but maybe just your CPU and if you are using magnetic disks for storage and they are going to get a hammering then you could cool them as well. Your motherboard can be watercooled but it depends on how much strain you will put it under. Prices are from£60(no good to you) to several hundreds for a top end cooling system which we can discuss later if you are interested.

Hope this helps somewhat. ;)